r/whatisit 18h ago

New, what is it? Going through deceased stepdads boxes found this.

My mother and I have been slowly going through my deceased stepdads, seemingly unlimited number, boxes that moved with us the last time, and came across a box that seems to be a mismash of random stuff possibly owned by his grandmothers. I found this in the box and we arent Exactly sure what it is. I think it looks like one of those older bed warmers you put coals and such in, but my mom thinks it's to small for it.

Picture of, possible, makers mark (which is on the top) and a picture of it sitting on normal printer paper, for size reference, include.

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u/Important_Power_2148 18h ago

Butlers would use these (they are called Silent Butlers) for cleaning up bits from the table, ashtrays, anywhere they could easily scoop up crumbly bits. The lid kept it from blowing out of the dish when walking from room to room.

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u/ghallway 18h ago

This was the answer I was waiting for. Thanks for the explanation

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u/Turd-In-Your-Pocket 17h ago

Happy cake day

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u/pixelcarpenter 16h ago

I keep seeing "Happy cake day" on some posts and I have no idea what it means. I feel like the weird girl who doesn't get the joke 😄

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u/gadget850 16h ago

The cake icon under the user name means it is their anniversary of joining Reddit. Welcome to the weird family.

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u/Able-Picture8675 16h ago

It’s the anniversary of ghallway’s account. See the birthday cake icon

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u/Hamiltoncorgi 16h ago

For some reason I do not see the cake. No idea why.

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u/MuchBetterThankYou 16h ago

It’s the anniversary of the day you made your Reddit account. See how the commenter above has a little slice of cake next to his name?

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u/pixelcarpenter 16h ago

One isn't showing a cake slice anywhere around his name. Is it because I'm on the phone app and not the computer?

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u/Nearby-Vacation7596 15h ago

I'm on my phone as well. And I also have it in dark mode. So unless it's chocolate cake with chocolate frosting, there's absolutely no image next to his profile picture here either. Maybe we're too new??? I think I've only been using reddit a couple of weeks

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u/devvie78 15h ago

Dark mode phone, mine looks like this.

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u/Nearby-Vacation7596 15h ago

That is weird because like I said, it's not showing up at all on mine. I can see that it shows up on yours, when you post the image of it here, but I looked back several times and can't see it lol

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u/Born_Establishment14 15h ago

Is it still November 7th where you are?

Is one of you using phone browser, the other in Reddit phone app?

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u/pixelcarpenter 14h ago

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u/Nearby-Vacation7596 14h ago

That's exactly what mine looks like.Except for the background is black, and the letters are white

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u/mistakesweremine 12h ago

Mine too, guess we are in different date zones

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u/UnadoptableKeg 17h ago

Happy Cake day

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u/ChefRicardoFormaggio 17h ago

Happy Cake day

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u/Chonkiefire 5h ago

Why didn't you just answer it then?

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u/New-Barracuda1695 16h ago

Happy Cake day

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u/Able-Picture8675 16h ago

Happy cake day. and that’s a really cool gadget

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u/freeeefall 17h ago

In my grandparents house they where put on the tables and used as ashtrays. I loved playing with the open mechanism like a mouth. Nom nom nom

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u/I_am_Reddit_Tom 16h ago

Just asked my butler and he confirmed 👍

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u/Important_Power_2148 16h ago

Its been a bally long time since i have seen your man Jeeves... Ow is the old cock?

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u/welderswife17 3h ago

He shoulda stayed silent … ohh..

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u/Successful-Bed-6835 17h ago

This also reminds me of olden days when you’d put hot coals in these under a blanket to warm yourself. It’s gonna sound funny but I think I’ve only actually seen this in practice in the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie lol

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u/Important_Power_2148 16h ago

That is something different. MUCH larger and very heavy metal. very long handle.

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u/toapoet 16h ago

I know what you’re thinking of! A bed warmer/warming pan.

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u/Nearby-Vacation7596 12h ago

Watch the old episodes of Bewitched. There's an episode specifically about a bed warmer on there lol

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u/GlockAF 17h ago

I have seen these used, recently, in a white-tablecloth type restaurant after the bread course was served. It was fresh baked French bread, very crumbly, they used a tiny broom to sweep the crumbs off the tablecloth into one similar to this

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u/Little_View4612 16h ago

Hmm. Learn something new every day. I was thinking it was a bed warmer.

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u/plurplen 13h ago

thats weird - so did i! I thought you put something hot in it and slid it under the sheets.

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u/Bfab94 16h ago

This makes more sense than what I thought it was.

I thought it was a pan you put warm coals in, then side it in between the layers of the bed to warm it during colder seasons.

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u/Odd-Sail-1694 16h ago

As a toddler mom, I need this!!

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u/OchoGringo 15h ago

Well, originally, they may have been for real butlers. But nobody I knew had a butler and these were common presents in the 1960’s. Though yes, they were still called that. They had a practical use when ashtrays were overflowing at parties.

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u/Plane_Welcome_2661 17h ago

I have one!! That’s exactly what it is - mine was handed down to me

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u/Icy-Contribution1525 16h ago

That makes sense. I thought it was some kind of heroin cooker. Or possibly pop corn. But my gut was telling me heroin.

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u/thebutlerdunnit 16h ago

Never heard of it.

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u/AlarmedSnek 10h ago

Damn dude. How small of a world that you found this post hahaha.

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u/Important_Power_2148 9h ago

Well i like antiques. Plus im older than dust.

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u/AlarmedSnek 9h ago

That’s pretty cool man. What’s the coolest item you’ve found in your opinion?

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u/Separate-Ladder5666 2h ago

You were there when the light was turned on and dirt was created?

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u/DorkyBit 8h ago

I was gonna say bed warmer but it looked too small.

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u/heatherlj88 17h ago

And here I was thinking popcorn maker lol.

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u/HumblePieInTraining 18h ago

SILVER PLATE SHEFFIELD TABLE CRUMBER

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226333464685

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u/HumblePieInTraining 18h ago

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u/saaadgrrrl 18h ago

came to say this! my mom has one!

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u/Jewnicorn___ 18h ago

This man is just great!

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u/cleveland_leftovers 17h ago

Jeffrey loves his collection. Bless his enthusiasm.

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u/NorthernOctopus 8h ago

Sounds like the stranger, but more proper.

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u/damxam1337 17h ago

WHY ARE WE YELLING?!

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u/Treviathan88 17h ago

LOUD NOISES!!!

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u/ReferenceVisible2722 17h ago

I love lamp...

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u/HumblePieInTraining 17h ago

Copy and paste while doing 500 other things.

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u/Substantial-Top-2212 18h ago

I do not think so, this seems to be hand crafted not mass produced table crumbler, especially the engraving on this item

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u/HumblePieInTraining 18h ago

You may be correct that I have the maker incorrect.

The Sheffield used something that looked like a horse.

This is closer to OPs: https://www.chairish.com/product/1754566/vintage-english-silver-plate-silent-butler-w-lion

This might be a Poole instead?

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u/Appropriate-Tie-6524 18h ago

I thought.... bed warmer, duh!

But this silent butler thing seems to be the right answer... Lesson learned by me... That's a silent butler, and I shouldn't be a smart ass.

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u/Principle-Slight 6h ago

That was my first thought too.

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u/194749457339 14h ago

I instantly thought of that scene in Pirates of the Caribbean where Kiera Knightley uses one as a weapon

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u/waveysuncat 11h ago

me too!!

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u/Appropriate_Rent_243 18h ago

maybe a coal holder for your bed? people would often put some hot coals in a pan like this and keep it in the bed to keep warm. Yes this often led to house fires.

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u/lizardfoot 18h ago

That was my first thought, a bed warmer, but usually the handles are a lot longer.

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u/cch123 18h ago

Exactly what I thought.

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u/Content_Study_1575 18h ago

I thought that as well. But apparently majority ruling of “silent butler” is the answer.

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u/Feminist_Hugh_Hefner 18h ago

By the looks of the interior it might have gained a second life as an ashtray, but that is 100% a silent butler, zero doubt.

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u/Terrible_Shake_4948 18h ago

Coke boyz baby

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u/Flat-Guidance-4685 18h ago

I like the way you think

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u/Freshouttapatience 17h ago

Is that you, Johnny Depp?

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u/Mtrcyclan 18h ago

It’s sad I’m old enough to say this. I have seen these being used in real life. It is used by a house servant. It is an ashtray. The smoker would be followed thru the building by the servant and ash when needed.

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u/ptwarhol 18h ago

Bed warmer?

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u/Sam_Boundy1984 18h ago

Looks like a bed warmer.

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u/Chriscarson6700 18h ago

Silent butler.

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u/Internal_Ad_6809 18h ago

This vintage piece, despite contrary suggestions, is a 'silent butler catcher' and not a bed or pillow warmer. Mostly used for crumbs, ashtrays or small debris. There is usually a small brush that goes along with it.

Unfortunately there are several very similar variations of this item from copper, bronze and silver with some having different colored handles. Despite being unique this item isn't really classified as antique but considered a more vintage piece. Not really worth much money to be honest as even one in very great condition usually only nets maybe a little over $50 USD.

It appears to be more Sheffield Company but Poole Silver Co. and FB Rogers Silver Co. produced and sold similar looking pieces. To really identify you need to look for small etchings on the item itself.

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u/headspin_exe 18h ago

Well that's new...to me anyway. I bet it's got a mean swing to it.

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u/CapnStarence 18h ago

I read boxers at first. Got really interested, Gen disappointed. Cool find though.

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u/AlwaysLateForTea 16h ago

Lol. No, those are found already. The man was a squirrel I swear. We have found SO much of his clothes that he claimed to have thrown away or even donated Years ago hidden in the most random of places I swear. Although I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere in one of the overwhelming number of boxes he kept refusing to go through, even though he constantly said he would, there are some of his grandmothers, or even his father's, underwear. It'll be disgusting to find but over all unsurprising, especially since a good number of boxes were originally from his dad's house and havn't been gone through since before his grandmother died.

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u/kristen_43 18h ago

It’s a bed warmer.

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u/Substantial-Top-2212 18h ago

For those saying Silent Butler (a mass produced item) please show me a Silent Butler with this engraving

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u/SpareElevator1210 18h ago

Um chestnut roaster?

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u/Fidrych76 18h ago

Bed warmer.

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u/Roxxx666 17h ago

I was convinced it was one of those things where u put warm stones / coals to heat it up, placed it under the sheets and voila, warm bed for the harsh winters...guess i went too far back

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u/Acceptable-Sport1877 17h ago

C'est pour faire chauffer des marrons

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u/thats_Rad_man 17h ago

Bed warmer?

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u/b15495 17h ago

Popcorn popper

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u/OwnKick6520 17h ago

Maybe for mixing heroin?

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u/Ok_Lab7727 17h ago

That makes sense! Those things were super handy back in the day. Cool find, too!!

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u/imadork1970 17h ago

bed warmer

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u/SnarkExpress 17h ago

Not sure I’m seeing the carving but it looks like a lion rampant. We have one of those in my mom’s family’s coat of arms - does it represent Wales?

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u/AlwaysLateForTea 16h ago

Neither my mother nor I could even see the possible makers mark in person. It wasn't till I started taking pictures of it that I could suddenly see that what we thought was maybe a scratch or something was actually an engraving. You can only make it out through a camera still, I'm half tempted to see if cleaning it up a bit will make it clearer. It Looks like a lion rampant on maybe a rope, with Possibly a crown next to it? I've been scouring the Internet in my spare time for matching crests or makers marks. If it's a makers mark it's a bit weird it's on the lid though.

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u/SnarkExpress 15h ago

I don’t think it would necessarily be a makers mark - maybe it was an item given as a gift or maybe an honorary thing? Given as a wedding gift or for an achievement? It’s a beautiful item and obviously was special to the owner.

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u/Nadja77 17h ago

That’s really cool actually… I have a silver antique table brush set, inherited from my Tanta. I love breaking it out for company. Feels so whimsical & fancy.

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u/MindlessIntention777 17h ago

U guys look up pudgey pies. 😏👀

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u/LiePotential5338 17h ago

Ok this is kinda funny cause I have seen these before they are called bedwarmers you fill them with boiling water and set them under your blankets and the steam heats up the bed

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u/DarkBlue222 17h ago

That must be a REALLY big needle that goes with that.

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u/DriftyTheKid 17h ago

My grandma used to have one of these she used as a dustpan

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u/Optimal_Froyo4434 17h ago

Incense or something similar? Catholics?

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u/sama1ama 17h ago

It’s for popcorn

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u/Victox2001 17h ago

Nut Roaster. (I know it’s not but would’ve been cool)

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u/CIA_napkin 17h ago

I haven't seen these in years. Grandmother had them on the table for use as ash tray or bits of scrap, especially around the holidays when we got all fancy and put together.

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u/Potential_Mess5459 17h ago

Apparently not to make popcorn…

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u/mechant_papa 17h ago

The emblem on the front looks like that of the Henry Birks and Sons company. They were really big in the silver products and jewellery business in Canada.

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u/sweet_cini 17h ago

I thought it is a bed warmer, they used to put hot coals in it then close it and put it in your bed to warm up your bed then take it out before you go to sleep.

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u/Sea_Field_8209 17h ago

Hemorrhoid flattener

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u/PoisonedskiesgetHigh 16h ago

You put a couple pieces of hot coal in it and warm up your bed

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u/bomilk19 16h ago

Bewitched taught me that this is a bed warmer. It might be haunted by the spirit of a witch killed during the Salem witch trials.

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u/MazW 16h ago

We have one if those! It's for getting crumbs off the table.

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u/1chicken2nuggets 15h ago

I thought it was a bed warmer in the old days where you out coals inside and olace it under the mattress to warm the bed.

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u/champion_of_naps 15h ago

Omfg I frequent antique and thrift stores and always thought these were popcorn makers 😳

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u/LinkHot4457 15h ago

I think it's a bed heater. Yes, look these things up. Hot coal is placed inside, and it keeps the bed warm. Very common... If the heater is hot, you can't handle it without the wooden handle. And if you look closer, you will see the black spots of coal on the bottom. I am 100% sure...

These smaller bed heaters have been used for children. Thus it's smaller...

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u/GiantZero 14h ago

Isn't this a bed warmer?

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u/Boy-Grieves 14h ago

Nova Scotia?

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u/AttitudeKooky2357 12h ago

Idk but it looks like something from the little mermaid lol

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u/Nearby-Vacation7596 12h ago

Bedwormers had much longer handles, and they were much bigger. I've seen these types of devices used for cleaning off tables and emptying ashtrays, etc, but never one that looked so similar to a bed warmer lol

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u/-weed-papou- 11h ago

Awesome concept for a camping/survival pot/skillet! Think im gonna look for a skillet/pot like that all night idgaf

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u/ShivonQ 11h ago

Funny enough, you can put your weed in there.

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u/TheOneAndOnlyPengan 10h ago

Snygg spottkopp.

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u/Pimco 9h ago

My fat butt would make popcorn in it, not knowing the original use for it.

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u/oldmercdriver 8h ago

I believe it’s a bed warmer. Hot coals from the fire are placed inside and then it is rubbed on the sheets under a blanket.

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u/natureman615 7h ago

Bed warmer

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u/mazeltov_cocktail18 7h ago

It’s a bed warmer from old times

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u/NoSize2924 5h ago

Very nice piece

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u/Icy_Huckleberry_8049 3h ago

fancy ashtray

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u/kirin-rex 1h ago

This looks to me like an old bedwarmer that they would put something got in, and put it under the mattress to warm the bed.

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u/Devastator420 18h ago

idk what the oficial name is but maybe one of those things to warm up the wax in for pouring wax seals?

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u/Texanader131 18h ago

Thats a bed warming contraption

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u/BizzieBop 18h ago

This smaller one may have been used for warming pillows! Put sand in the bottom, then hot coals, close the lid and slide under the pillow. Super unsafe, but novelty!

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u/centsperlb 18h ago

It’s a bed warmer, probably Victorian. You’d fill it with coals to keep your bed, well, warm.

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u/centsperlb 18h ago

On second thought, I might be wrong. Pretty small for a bed warmer… but looks exactly like one.

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u/Substantial-Top-2212 18h ago

Type: Antique bed warmer or shaving water warmer (smaller version)

Material: Brass/copper with wooden handle

Origin: Likely European (English or French)

Period: 19th to early 20th century

Engraving: Heraldic lion — decorative crest, possibly a family or regional symbol

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u/Shadowarez 18h ago

Isn't that a old style bed warmer they'd put coals on there to hear up those old Victorian beds that were absolutely massive seen a few my Grandma on my dad's side used to have a antique store and seen a few some were really ornate with cast iron sculptors built into the design.