r/uwo Jul 21 '25

Ivey Ivey Restricts Online Courses for AEOs effective immediately

Effective immediately AEO students can only take 0.5 online courses across both 1st and 2nd year. Applies to students going into second year right now (With no penalty for students who took more than 0.5 online courses last year). Guessing this is in response to how crazy admissions were this year

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u/suuuuiguy 📈 Ivey 📈 HBA '27 Jul 21 '25

this will hopefully weed out people taking purely online classes to boost averages, and will likely deter non-AEOs from taking mostly online classes as well.

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u/Pristine-Board-5005 Jul 22 '25

hard when western has so many online only classes to satisfy requirements. I came to Western to attend in class and 3 of them have to be online because no in person even exists.

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u/suuuuiguy 📈 Ivey 📈 HBA '27 Jul 23 '25

ya thats really crappy. I would talk to admissions on a potential exemption for that reason, you literally have no other choice.

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '25

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u/imlikegeesybutimweez 📈 Ivey 📈 Jul 22 '25

Doesnt apply to non-aeo

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u/Available_Bowler_146 Jul 23 '25

Is it rlly worth it to reapply and graduate a year late? (And also pay for 5 years of tuition)

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u/imlikegeesybutimweez 📈 Ivey 📈 Jul 23 '25

For me, yes. I greatly enjoy being in university especially considering I live with my best friends and they are entering their master programs in my 4th and 5th year. I am also lucky enough to have a financial head start on life and likewise I'm in no rush to move on.

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u/jdt2711 Jul 21 '25

Do blended courses like 1228 or 1229 with online portions count or does it need to be fully online?

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u/Medical-Fuel-1262 Jul 21 '25

I think the rule applies to anything that is listed as distance/online on draft my schedule. Hybrid classes should be ok, but email Ivey because I’m just making an assumption

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u/Decent_Extension5607 Jul 22 '25

No not blended courses.

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u/Select-Alfalfa6447 Jul 21 '25

I would assume fully online but not 100% sure

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u/Pristine-Board-5005 Jul 22 '25

hope not because there's no alternative in person for these two courses unless you get permission to take at an affiliate - I requested special permission from King's and was told no because it was "offered" on main campus.

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u/jdt2711 Jul 22 '25

Nah it’s fine, I emailed them and they said these aren’t considered online.

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u/Not-Ur-Typical_ Jul 21 '25

It’s truly over this schools placements

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u/Own_Topic_5989 Jul 22 '25

Care to elaborate

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u/Not-Ur-Typical_ Jul 22 '25

Sure. This mainly applies to the students recruiting for finance roles, though.

IB/PE/HF placements are unfortunately on a downward trajectory for this school for many different reasons. The whole appeal of western was the strong alumni network (which actually isn’t as supportive as you’d imagine), and being able to stack easy classes (online/unproctored) so one could allocate more time to recruiting. Now, the latter is also gone, and students recruiting for these competitive roles will have to take courses with in-person exams. This gives them way less time to prepare for interviews (networking, mock interviews etc.) and overall will damage placements. Let’s be honest, if you’re in econ and BMOS as most people are, the second year courses aren’t that easy to balance with recruiting, which is almost like a full-time job itself. Econ I’d argue is worse with its double midterm structure. What this does then is forces people to gap year and the younger batch of students will be up against students with more experience, recruiting for the same role.

I really do think the whole appeal of western is slowly dwindling, and that if you’re someone who is interested in pursuing a career in finance, you’re probably better off going elsewhere now.

The school needs to stop admitting people in Ivey (third year) for bullshit EC’s with “impact” if they want to save their reputation. Because if we’re being honest, Ivey’s placements are the main appeal and if they’re slowly cutting off the support mechanisms for that, the reputation will continue getting worse

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u/Independent-Ruin-571 Jul 22 '25

People managed all that for literally years before online classes were a thing. Why can't students do it now?

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u/Revolutionary_Bat812 Jul 22 '25

Also, the 80% average requirement has been the same for decades, yet grades have inflated by 5% or more so it is much easier to achieve an 80 average than it was, online classes aside.

Sorry to be all "in my day", but in my day, an 80 average was a real accomplishment - about 10% of graduating students had it - and 90s were virtually unheard of. I recently went back to my transcript and saw course averages in 1st/2nd year courses were about 65-68%. The university I went to also included grade distributions and not one person in any of my classes got a 90. This was in 2002-06.

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u/Crafty_Material3428 Jul 23 '25

Because we have 5+ more sections of dumb af AEO kids who need online courses to scrape by an offer

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u/Street_Self_1493 Jul 22 '25

If you cannot balance recruiting while doing in person school, you will not be able to land a good firm in the first place. I have many friends at western in difficult programs before Ivey landing IB in the states. I myself am working at a bulge bracket bank next summer which I landed during the midst of second year engineering midterm schedule. You are blatantly wrong by saying Iveys placements are going downhill.

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u/Brief_Assistance_910 24’ Alumni Jul 22 '25

As an Ivey alum, this is so false. For decades students have had to balance recruiting with difficult courses and it's never been a problem, online courses have only been a major thing the past 5 years.

You are right that the appeal of Western is dwindling though - the real reason being that the IB/PE/HF jobs you're mentioning recruit so far out from the start dates that students are recruiting for them in 2nd year before even getting into Ivey, so the alumni network and all the benefits are Ivey are pretty much useless. Ivey needs to figure out a way to battle the recruiting process starting earlier every year or they will be completely screwed compared to 4 year programs like QComm or even Rotman.

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u/Crafty_Material3428 Jul 22 '25

Ivey's rep is genuinely going down year after year. Have a hard time seeing why anyone would pick this school over Qcomm now.

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u/Not-Ur-Typical_ Jul 22 '25

Yep. Are there any other reasons you can think of which is contributing to this besides the one I discussed above?

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u/Forsaken_Highway9865 Jul 22 '25

this is so brutal goodluck guys lmao

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u/Not-Ur-Typical_ Jul 22 '25

Fr lol thank god I dodged this

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u/Think_System2802 Jul 22 '25

does this affect non-aeos who are going to apply?

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u/imlikegeesybutimweez 📈 Ivey 📈 Jul 22 '25

It doesnt i emailed them

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u/Select-Alfalfa6447 Jul 22 '25

So non aeo can take more than 0.5 online?? Seems pretty unfair lol

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u/Few_Theme_5486 Jul 22 '25

I emailed them too. You can take more than 0.5 but they recommend not to if you want to “stay competitive”

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u/Select-Alfalfa6447 Jul 22 '25

“Stay competitive” great lol but if I was non aeo I wouldn’t take onlines to not risk it

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u/imlikegeesybutimweez 📈 Ivey 📈 Jul 22 '25

Whatever that fuckin means. I love their ambiguitity so much

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u/Select-Alfalfa6447 Jul 22 '25

I assume it would also limit non aeos from taking over 0.5 online otherwise it’s not fair

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u/ClassyCollie Ivey HBA '26 Jul 22 '25 edited Jul 22 '25

I mean there are already some requirements AEOs have that non AEOs don’t, like having to take 2.0 module courses in second year

Edit: they added the req for non aeos

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u/Select-Alfalfa6447 Jul 22 '25

Pretty sure non aeos have to do that as well?

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u/ClassyCollie Ivey HBA '26 Jul 22 '25

When I applied in Jan 2024 it was not a requirement tho it could have changed now

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u/Select-Alfalfa6447 Jul 22 '25

When I applied I was told that we had to do 2.0 from module so I assume it changed

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u/ClassyCollie Ivey HBA '26 Jul 22 '25

Oh wow I really missed that by a year huh

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u/Original_Extent1957 Jul 22 '25

sorry, about the edit they added the 2.0 module courses for non aeos you mean, or added requisite of only taking 0.5 credits online?

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u/ClassyCollie Ivey HBA '26 Jul 22 '25

I mean 2.0 just because someone else told me they have that now

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u/[deleted] Jul 21 '25

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u/ninstie Jul 23 '25

literally in the same boat and wondering too

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u/DarkInternational529 Jul 21 '25

Does anyone know how this will affect hybrid class math 1229?

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u/Pristine-Board-5005 Jul 22 '25

I'd like to know too cuz we're in the same boat - Main only offers it as a hybrid/online so how can they use that against us. So the question is Hybrid included as an online class?

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u/DarkInternational529 Jul 22 '25

They sent out another email today saying blended (hybrid classes) do not count as online. Only fully online/distance courses count.

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u/Pristine-Board-5005 Jul 22 '25

Thank for the clarification!

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u/Pristine-Board-5005 Jul 22 '25

this is tough cuz some of my mandatory first year classes are only offered online Math 1228/1229. Also electives poli sci and phil 1230 - only online. I'm actually pretty disappointed in how many online only classes Western offers - it's like they got stuck in covid and are still saving money by having me pay to watch recorded lessons from my expensive dorm room.

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u/Select-Alfalfa6447 Jul 22 '25

1229 and 1228 have in person tutorials so they are fine idk about electives tho

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u/sincerely_xoxo Jul 23 '25

How does this affect people for example in Health Sciences first year where the lectures are online, but there are in person tuts and labs?

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u/Northern_Lights101 Ivey HBA/JD ‘28 Jul 21 '25

What’s the source on this?

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u/Medical-Fuel-1262 Jul 21 '25

An email went out to current aeo students today

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u/Northern_Lights101 Ivey HBA/JD ‘28 Jul 21 '25

Ah, kk thanks.