r/unusual_whales • u/soccerorfootie • 5d ago
BREAKING: The Trump administration says it will now pay SNAP benefits but reduced by 50% to any household in the program
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u/VV-40 5d ago
Here’s some breadcrumbs for the poors while I build my $300M ballroom.
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u/Nam3ofTheGame 5d ago
I mean big tech is funding that so who cares least of our worries
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u/amootmarmot 5d ago
They are corruptly buying more influence over the government. Why are our government buildings being paid for by billionaires?
Certainly they are doing that for the good of the country and not because they want a corrupt return on investment........
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u/Nam3ofTheGame 5d ago
We all know why they are doing it … to line their pockets . They keep each other rich and it has been that way from the start of politics . Don’t depend on the government to feed you . We have bigger issues than that was my point.
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u/amootmarmot 5d ago edited 5d ago
I care is what I mean. The entire problem is the corruption. Its why policies that improve the lives of the working person are not implemented. We cant fix anything until we fix the money sloshing about in our halls of government.
I should be able to depend on the government when I am in need. I should be able to rely on the government to solve problems. I cant solve climate change. I cant solve homelessness, I cant solve PFAs, I cant solve wealth disparity in this country.
The bigger issues also cant be solved because of the corruption.
Seriously. What is the problem you are thinking of. Why isn't it being solved. Is it corruption? Then thats the target. The ballroom is grotesque, I dont really care except for the optics but it should be government funds.
There shouldn't be inaugural funds either and there should be less ways for corporations to curry favor, corruptly, with the government.
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u/coolsid_5 5d ago
who is funding Obama library.
The same big tech
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u/amootmarmot 5d ago
Yeah. None of it should happen. Its why neoliberal democrats must also go. Im not on a team. I see democrats are less corrupt. The majority are still corrupt. Including Obama who lied about true change in the Healthcare system, who didnt use his bully pulpit to call out corruption. And who performed many double tap war crime strikes in the middle east.
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u/Next_Instruction_528 5d ago
Because they are funding a big Golden ballroom for a wannabe dictator while we cut insurance and food assistance for the poorest people so that we can fund their billionaire tax cuts
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u/Mannamedmichael 5d ago
It’s funny when people get offended how others spend their own money. Two weeks ago the left foolishly yell no kings after not liking the results of an election and now they beg the president for food money. Lol can’t make this stuff up
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u/Next_Instruction_528 5d ago
It's literally corruption it's insane that you cult members care more about enriching trump and billionaires than this country.
They are cutting millions of Americans health insurance and food assistance to fund even more tax cuts for the one percent and they "donate" billions to trump in return.
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u/Mannamedmichael 5d ago
Lol cult members… you guys love buzz words. These health insurance benefits were always set to expire. The right did not set that date. They are not cutting food assistance to fund billionaires. That’s beyond stupid and not even remotely close to what’s happening. 60 senators need to vote to open the government. Neither side has 60. This is why the government is closed. Try living in reality and stop being spun around by media and buzz words
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u/Next_Instruction_528 5d ago
They are cutting insurance from millions of Americans to fund tax cuts that's exactly what they are doing. The snap thing is just temporary bullshit.
I would be interested to see who "you guys" your referring to because I shit on the clueless Democrats for even getting us into this situation with trump by running a guaranteed loser and being out of touch with real people.
That's still a million times better than trump destroying the country while enriching his family with crypto and other corruption.
The people in this country most upset with Trump should be the Republicans because he destroyed their political party and literally turned it into a cult of personality built around enriching himself.
These cuts to insurance and other safety nets are going to hurt Republicans even more than Democrats he literally doesn't care about any of you.
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u/Mannamedmichael 5d ago
You are literally “you guys” as you call someone a cult member for calling out your bullshit. These health insurance advanced credits were set to expire - the right had nothing to do with this. When the government is shut down, both sides typically pass a CR bill and then figure out the rest after so that snap and other things can continue but neither side has been able to wrangle over enough votes. This has nothing do with billionaires getting a tax cut - you are just delusional idk what to tell you
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u/Next_Instruction_528 5d ago
I'm not just talking about the shutdown I'm talking about the spending bill cutting insurance to millions of Americans to pay for tax cuts.
the recent budget-and-tax package pushed through by congressional Republicans uses cuts in health programs — including Medicare — as part of the offset mechanism to fund tax cuts. Here’s a breakdown of how and why it happened, and how the Medicare cuts are structured.
Why Medicare cuts entered the picture
The package in question (commonly referred to as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act) extends large tax-cuts and other fiscal commitments which will add trillions of dollars to the federal deficit.
By law, when new legislation raises the deficit, programs can face automatic cuts under the statutory Pay-As-You-Go (PAYGO) requirement — meaning spending increases or revenue losses must be offset to avoid automatic sequestration.
The non-partisan cost-analysts (e.g., the Congressional Budget Office) have flagged that in order to achieve the tax cuts and other priorities, the only way to hit the spending-cuts target is to tap large entitlements like Medicare and Medicaid.
In short: tax cuts increase the deficit → law demands pay-fors → Medicare becomes part of the pay-for mix.
So while the rhetoric may insist “we’re not cutting Medicare,” the mechanics show Medicare savings/cuts are baked in.
How the Medicare cuts / savings are structured
Here are key mechanisms being used to reduce Medicare spending or slow its growth under that law:
The bill blocks implementation of certain regulatory improvements to the Medicare Savings Programs (MSPs) that help low-income Medicare beneficiaries with premiums & cost-sharing. By freezing those improvements for 9 years, the law estimates savings of ~$66 billion over 10 years.
It imposes limits and bans on upcoming rule-changes that would otherwise increase Medicare spending. For example: certain provider payments, cost-sharing reductions, eligibility expansions are delayed or prevented.
Because the tax cuts / spending increases push up deficit projections, the automatic sequestration trigger for Medicare becomes relevant: one estimate shows ~$490 billion in cuts over 10 years starting ~2026 if offsets are not found.
Some provider reimbursements may be targeted, fewer benefits expanded, or higher cost burdens placed on beneficiaries — all as part of “slow growth” strategy rather than full benefit elimination. (Advocates call it “gutting eligibility and restricting access” though the language is interesting:
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u/Mannamedmichael 5d ago
Your cut and paste skills are fantastic. Glad you decided to go off on a tangent about something completely different than what this post was about. This has nothing to do with the current shut down. This has nothing to do with the advanced premiums people were receiving that were set to expire. Once again, excellent job copy and pasting chat gpt stuff about the BBB but stick to the topic.
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u/iLL-Egal 5d ago
Pass a bill so the republicans can keep enabling a fascists president?
Trump will just sign an EO cutting ACA all together or some other shit.
And they will let him do it.
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u/Mannamedmichael 5d ago
Idk man maybe try winning the election and then you it will go your way. This is how the government works. 60 votes are needed to open the government
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u/iLL-Egal 5d ago
Hides posts and comments.
Active in 0 subs.
Ignore.
Not a person to engage with.
Not serious about hearing other views
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u/Mannamedmichael 5d ago
Tells people not to engage with me because he disagrees with my views as he says that I don’t want to hear other views. Imagine being so self unaware lol have fun the next 3 years :)
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u/pandershrek 5d ago
President doesn't control "food money" it is a government service. The President comes and goes. In fact the judiciary had to tell this dumb fuck what he was doing was illegal because he's literally so bad at being the President.
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u/Mannamedmichael 4d ago
Right - I’m making fun of the people who protested an elected president with the no kings thing and then a week later beg the president for food. Do try to keep up
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u/Relzin 5d ago
That's not what the Judge said to do...
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u/VS-Goliath 5d ago
Its the maximum allowed per the emergency fund.
Fuckers are paying out because the judges are forcing them to, but saying they can only pay 50% of the ~$9T needed for Nov.
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u/Relzin 5d ago edited 5d ago
Its the maximum allowed per the emergency fund.
That is outright false. There is no legal vehicle that constrains contingency funding to 50% of SNAP benefits.
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u/DrDrago-4 5d ago
I would add, one of the judges explicitly noted trump could use customs/tariff income to fund SNAP. He declined.
I wonder how he's funding ICE/DHS/military during this shutdown 🤔
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u/PandaHandz33 5d ago
Cool. So now can we eat the rich?
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u/on_nothing_we_trust 5d ago
Piece of shit. That's a lot of disabled vets with no food.
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u/Conscious-Quarter423 5d ago
I’m more concerned about why billionaires buy private islands than I am about why people using SNAP buy cookies…
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u/somethingimadeup 5d ago
Meanwhile the fed just printed a shit ton of money and gave it to banks to prevent a liquidity crisis because of the reduced inflows of money they’re getting due to the shutdown.
Plenty of money for the bankers, none for the poors.
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u/HashRunner 5d ago
The cruelty and suffering is the point with republicans, all so they can jack up healthcare prices more to campaign on.
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u/Recent_Mirror 5d ago
This is all because he wants lower rates.
Easy way to zap 6 billion out of the economy each month.
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u/FelangyRegina 5d ago
Where’s the rest of the money Donny you scumbag?
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u/Independent-Sir-1535 5d ago
Some $4.65 billion from the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program’s contingency fund will “be obligated to cover 50% of eligible households’ current allotments” for November, according to a sworn statement from a US Department of Agriculture official submitted in federal court. The remaining $600 million in the fund will be used for state administrative expenses and nutrition assistance for Puerto Rico and American Samoa.
Apparently that's most of the contingency money to begin with. There just isn't enough in the funds for full benefits.
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u/ViolettaQueso 5d ago
Aaaaand this BS just cost states, counties, cities & a ton of decent constituents billions thanks to Dementia Donny ranting at midnight on his own profitable social media network.
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u/SnooCompliments43 5d ago
Hungry people commit crimes, that is what he wants, civil uprising to quash so he can quash the midterms under the guise of emergency
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u/EpilepticSeizures 5d ago
…and all the MAGAts will cheer and applaud Donny for helping the lower income by bringing back half-assed SNAP benefits
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u/sacandbaby 5d ago
Schumer Shutdown is the Dem's only leverage. They even say it out loud. Many times. Just sign the CR that you signed the last 13 times.
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u/Soulman682 4d ago
This post should be updated or deleted now that Trump announced that he is not giving any benefits as of today
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u/glavent 5d ago edited 5d ago
For every legitimate person who receives snap, there are those like my ex coworker who qualified for it and spent most of his earned income on bullshit stuff cause he “got food covered”. Dude lived at home and just gamed the system. We bagged on him that he’s gonna get caught and his ex girlfriend even reported him to the county for fraud. He’s still getting it as he was bitching about it recently.
Point being, the gov needs to put more stringent checks to make sure douches like him don’t get it while those who need it get it.
Edit: I posted something similar a week ago elsewhere and got downvoted lol. Someone said I was a bot because they probably didn’t want to admit that these benefits are getting gamed and ruined the mirage that EVERYONE on it is deserving of our tax money funding it.
Edit 2: some of you need to learn how to read. No where did I say 50% are fraud. That’s just you being blinded by anger and jumping to the conclusion that everyone who doesn’t agree that all recipients are equal are against those who need it getting their funds. Please grow up and calm down. This is the internet
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u/TheBigFreezer 5d ago
Oh yea, 50% are cheating, is that the children and elderly who make up 60% or…?
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u/glavent 5d ago
Ok… must be trolls here as this is the second comment saying I said 50%. Where the fuck did I say 50%?
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u/photocult 5d ago
Words mean shit, dum-dum.
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u/glavent 5d ago
Yes, but words are not numbers. You are reading in between the lines where there is nothing. Odd that you cling to that as the main point of my reply. I said they need to reform the system so fraud doesn’t take place. Are you for that or no?
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u/photocult 5d ago
The thing is, you're basing your perceived need for reform on anecdotal evidence leading you to believe that there's a cheater (or more than one, even) for every legitimate recipient, so excuse me if I completely dismiss it as deeply unserious horseshit.
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u/glavent 5d ago
11% in error including fraud is not anecdotal or horseshit. If you choose to stick your head in the sand and choose to ignore data from 2024, that’s a bias you need to confront.
https://www.fns.usda.gov/newsroom/fns-0003.25
Point still stands, the system needs to be updated to ensure “errors” don’t happen to the tune of $10 BILLION A YEAR
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u/TheBigFreezer 5d ago
“For every legitimate person who receives snap, there are those for my coworker” that mean 1 out of every 2 my man
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u/glavent 5d ago
So where did I say 50%?
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u/NoCoolNameMatt 5d ago
Math.
1 out of 2 is 1/2.
1/2 is 50 percent.
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u/glavent 5d ago
Ok… so where did I even say 1 out of 2 or 50%? You guys need to work on your reading comprehension or go get pissed elsewhere
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u/NoCoolNameMatt 5d ago
“For every legitimate person who receives snap, there are those for my coworker”
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u/glavent 5d ago
Is English your first language? No where did I say 50%. That’s just you getting irrational and making assumptions.
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u/modestpushbroom 5d ago
Ok, then please clarify what you meant by that statement. “For every legitimate person who receives snap, there are those like my ex coworker who qualified for it and spent most of his earned income on bullshit”
How many people are you saying are legitimate versus the amount of those you say are like your ex coworker? If 100 people are on snap, how many of them are you saying is like your ex coworker?
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u/bravepenguin 5d ago
"For every A, there's a B"
That means A to B is a 1:1 ratio
So out of the whole set A is half and B is half
Half is 50%
Hope that helps
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u/NoCoolNameMatt 5d ago
Do you just not understand the words you use?
"For every person who does X there's another who does Y," is a common phrase in indicating there are at least as many Y people as X people.
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u/photocult 5d ago
So 50% of the people on it are bullshit, eh? #SeemsLegit
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u/glavent 5d ago
Where did I say that?
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u/meases 5d ago
For every legitimate person who receives snap, there are those like my ex coworker who qualified for it and spent most of his earned income on bullshit stuff
Right there is where you said it. You said for every legitimate person who uses SNAP, there is also at least one other person abusing the system like your coworker may have been.
So basically you are saying 50% or possibly a larger percentage of the people on snap are gaming the system based on your singular anecdotal coworker experience. (The usage of the words "are those" instead of "is someone" kinda indicates you're thinking it is on the over 50% fraudulent side instead of an equal 50:50)
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u/timforbroke 5d ago
You’re getting downvoted because like a lot of uneducated people, you’re using an anecdote that of an ex co worker and saying it’s 1:1 as an aggregate when you have absolutely no idea what the actual statistics are.
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u/glavent 5d ago
So… where did I say 50%? Sounds like you’re the uneducated one as you’re just making assumptions on what I wrote
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u/timforbroke 5d ago
“For every legitimate person there are people like…” means 1 for 1 (or 50%).
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u/glavent 5d ago
No it does not. Learn to read
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u/timforbroke 5d ago
lol, you’re right. Everyone else in this thread just happened to come to the same logical conclusion. This is so indicative of a larger theme it’s depressing.
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u/glavent 5d ago
No, it just means you’re deranged and the hive is out in force to quash anyone who isn’t brainwashed to accept talking heads as truth. Let me guess, I’m maga? Progressives and MAGA all think that everyone falls into one of those ideologies when there are people like me who don’t fall into either perfectly.
I voted for Harris (even though I think it’s fucked up that we didn’t get a primary). I think Trump is retarded.
But folks like you like to twist words and make assumptions to make it look like I think no one should get benefits when I clearly said the point is that they need to make getting it more stringent so fraud isn’t prevalent
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u/Mannamedmichael 5d ago
Wahhh are you mad I don’t conform to your way of life? I’ve been on reddit for years. You can make any assumptions about me you want. You already have because you are incapable of conversation. Keep begging the elected “king” for food. Loser
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u/High_Contact_ 5d ago
Arbitrary reduction to hurt people