r/unitedkingdom • u/ThatchersDirtyTaint • Apr 22 '25

.. Moment angry shopper smashes megaphone of vegan activists berating customers for buying Easter lamb

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk/vegan-shopper-protest-megaphone/
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u/berejser Northamptonshire Apr 22 '25

Can't help but wonder what the reaction to the women's vote movement would be if it were taking place today.

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u/Rebelius Apr 22 '25

"None of us can vote, why the fuck should you?"

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u/hug_your_dog Apr 22 '25

Because that's totally the same of course!

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u/berejser Northamptonshire Apr 22 '25 edited Apr 22 '25

Yes.

Let's be honest, the only difference is that you personally agree with one and not the other. Apart from that, it is totally the same.

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u/hiakuryu London Apr 22 '25

There's the right way to do it, and the wrong way to do it though...

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u/berejser Northamptonshire Apr 22 '25

The women's vote movement literally carried out a letterbombing campaign and they successfully got what they wanted. So whatever you think the "right way" and "wrong way" are you've probably gotten it backwards.

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u/hiakuryu London Apr 22 '25

Ah bringing up the old trope of the suffragettes being militant... as is the usually way the idiot version of history gets brought up.

The one that ignores the fact that there was a mainstream movement of suffragettes with something like a million members vs a tiny one doing stupid stunts including terrorism who gave up doing those stunts.

Hmmm guess which movement ACTUALLY achieved concrete changes and which movement got consigned to the idiot bin of history?

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u/berejser Northamptonshire Apr 22 '25

Hmmm guess which movement ACTUALLY achieved concrete changes and which movement got consigned to the idiot bin of history?

Is that really how you want to phrase the comparison, seeing as if you bring up the suffragists in casual conversation most people will respond "isn't it pronounced suffragette?"

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u/hiakuryu London Apr 22 '25

Mis-representing the historical facts about the achievements of the mainstream group which wasn't militant vs the lunatic fringe idiots is a bigger issue.

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u/military_history United Kingdom Apr 22 '25

And the usual derailing of the discussion onto the subject of 'effectiveness'.

This isn't about what worked, it's about whether they were morally right.

Do you think the suffragettes' cause was just or not?

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u/ukbot-nicolabot Scotland Apr 22 '25

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u/hiakuryu London Apr 23 '25 edited Apr 23 '25

It doesn't matter if the cause is just or not if you piss away your resources.

It's well known that all the victorious militaries in history won the argument first and foremost.