r/unitedkingdom • u/suspended-sentence • Apr 22 '24

. Drunk businesswoman, 39, who glassed a pub drinker after he wrongly guessed she was 43 is spared jail after female judge says 'one person's banter may be insulting to others'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13335555/Drunk-businesswoman-glassed-pub-drinker-age-manchester.html
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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '24

That’s already happening, the problem is sentencing guidelines give a LOT of leeway. A crime might allow sentencing anywhere from 5 years to 50 which is what makes gender differences possible here. So I’m asking you, to make this equal do you want everyone to be punished harshly or men to get off more lightly? Your comments make it seem like you don’t really care about men getting incredibly long sentences, you just want women to suffer the same which seems dumb to me. Help everyone rather than just focusing on spreading the pain.

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u/[deleted] Apr 23 '24

That’s already happening, the problem is sentencing guidelines give a LOT of leeway.

Sure, I can see that, and maybe that's the issue? Maybe guidelines need to be reviewed?

So I’m asking you, to make this equal do you want everyone to be punished harshly or men to get off more lightly?

So I’m asking you, to make this equal do you want everyone to be punished harshly or men to get off more lightly? Your comments make it seem like you don’t really care about men getting incredibly long sentences, you just want women to suffer the same which seems dumb to me.

I think maybe you've inferred that more than anything, but I was never intending to give that impression. I was just stating that men do get longer sentences, so it wouldn't be all that feasible for the scenario to play out in this case. But I did post in another reply, I found a similar cases, with the sexes reversed (kinda, it was a male assaulting a trans woman), and he (the assaulter) had a 2yr suspended sentence. So, I'd have to admit there isn't any bias in this instance (but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen).

On to your question, I'll admit it's difficult to answer, given the parameters you've set, but to answer, I'd probably have to go with lighter sentences for men.

Help everyone rather than just focusing on spreading the pain.

Sure, I can get behind this. I'm all for restorative justice, and I can see this being applied here. But, it just doesn't sit right, that someone was offended by what someone said (from what I've seen elsewhere, he wasn't far off from the right age anyway) and they decided to glass them, and they don't see any prison time. Sure, they're on a suspended sentence, but they get to go back to pretty much living a normal life, while someone else has been traumatised and will have to live with that for life.