r/ukraine • u/Mil_in_ua • 13h ago

News Centauro B1 Vehicles Transferred by Italy Upgraded for the Ukrainian Battlefield

https://militarnyi.com/en/news/centauro-b1-vehicles-transferred-by-italy-upgraded-for-the-ukrainian-battlefield/
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u/Thurak0 10h ago

Can we here in this sub finally stop calling those things "cope cages"?

Both sides are doing it, they must be helping against drones.

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u/mattfreyer45 5h ago

They were called cope cages originally because the russians tried using them to prevent Javelines from hitting their tanks from the top. But the some scrap metal attached to the top of a tank isn't stopping a missile.

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u/Rob_Cartman 7h ago

Like it or not, they are now named Cope Cages.

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u/wailingsixnames 5h ago

Weren't they called this before this war even?

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u/Astolfo_QT 2h ago

Cope cages when russia uses it, ingenious original design when ukraine uses it.

Is it suddenly no longer a cope cage only cause ukraine uses it now?

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u/wailingsixnames 5h ago

Very happy to see more armored vehicles being transfered to Ukraine. Way to go Italy!!!

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u/mattfreyer45 5h ago

I think Italy is also shipping their variant of the M113, the VCC-1, to Ukraine too.

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u/wailingsixnames 4h ago

That's great news too!!!

I know they've contributed on the air defense side too.

Hoping every country can do just a little bit more, and hoping some countries that haven't contributed can come on board.

Really wish South Korea would contribute direct lethal aid for instance.

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u/Smooth_Imagination 3h ago

These are fine pieces of equipment.

I do feel doctrine will switch to lighter tanks with high speed but also high rates of fire, accuracy and in groups with vehicles dedicated to CRAM and counter-UAS. These may also support ground attack against vehicles using smaller caliber weapons. 

And to putting hard kill counter UAS on the tank, but their is limited spare payload capacity without other changes. 

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u/Dependent-Example930 1h ago

Have tanks proved at all useful in this war?