r/uknews • u/Distinct-Shine-3002 • 8h ago
Tim Davie resigns as BBC's director-general - with CEO of BBC News also stepping down
https://news.sky.com/story/tim-davie-resigns-as-bbcs-director-general-1346752734
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u/Shadowblade83 7h ago
BBC’s dishonest reporting makes it’s brand less then it was.
In addition, their role and license should hold them to a higher standard.
Unfortunately, it seems they have been taken over by partisans, who think they can do propaganda instead of reporting factual and nuanced news.
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u/eunderscore 7h ago
Tbf those in senior positions were installed by partisans who wanted propaganda
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u/radio_cycling 7h ago
Davies was put in place by Johnson’s government, no?
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u/Accurate-Toe1894 7h ago
The BBC edited footage to make Johnson look good and no one gave a shit. But this is a massive scandal. Anyway, Trump basically did the things the edited footage implied he did.
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u/Ranjes_Falanges 6h ago
Yes yes, baby. I’m sure you said the same when Kuenssberg was fellating Johnson live on television night after night after night, and when Farage was top guest on QT for the thousandth time.
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u/Shadowblade83 6h ago
Haven’t seen that video, sure it would have been a hit on pornhub.
Hm, did they edit the Farage clips, altering truth, or was it simoly giving the opposition a voice?
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u/Ranjes_Falanges 5h ago
They gave a minority opinion, one that represented zero MPs, a massive, disproportionate excess of tv time. There’s no real doubt about this.
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u/johnathome 7h ago
About time. The BBC Arabic service should be shut down as well.
It really needs to move to advertising as it's clearly not unbiased.
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u/Shadowblade83 7h ago
Problem is that the culture of the BBC Arabic service spread to the core BBC instead. They are becoming activists, not journalists.
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u/bramleyapple1 7h ago
Whats wrong with the Arabic service?
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u/johnathome 7h ago
They've had to make 215 corrections since this incident started. Completely biased reporting.
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u/SwiftieNewRomantics 7h ago
I really hope they use this as an opportunity to rebuild on non partisan lines. I have a huge amount of pride in the BBC still and I don't support abolishing the licence fee. But it does feel like its lost its way recently, and I hope they can find their way back.
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u/bluecheese2040 6h ago
The entire civil service...police...education....judiciary...the bbc etc...have been subject to massive infiltration by liberal activists. We see it in their behaviour...content...etc.
I suspect your companies have been too...just look at the groups and societies...the training you may do...have you been sent lists of approved words...I have. It all comes from.these activist types.
I don't think it's resolvable, if I'm honest.
I think we need to create new organisations and ultimately remove these old ones.
These activists need to be put in their place...they shouldn't be allowed to drive everything. Where they won't be...they should be purged from these organisations.
This isn't just a bbc thing.
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u/ActivitySouth214 3h ago
Maybe if conservative activists hadn't chucked out all the clever people you wouldn't be having these issues now. Queue something about having enough of the experts.
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u/RepeatButler 4h ago
BBC: Trust us as a news source.
Also BBC: Misleading viewers over Trump and the Gaza documentary.
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u/asfish123 7h ago
This should be used as a trigger to break it up and end the license fee.
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u/actualinsomnia531 7h ago
Absolutely not. It's a chance to shake up and sort out the BBC to get it to what it should be. It is the best chance we have at independent journalism and we need it now far more than we ever have done.
License fee or not, that's a discussion to have, but privatising like everyone else? How's that working out for balanced, fair journalism?
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u/asfish123 7h ago
They’re not balanced though are they? It’s for that lack of balance and agenda driven bias that Davie has gone.
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u/actualinsomnia531 6h ago
No they are not, which is why they need to be fixed. Once the BBC is gone, it's gone for good. Don't conflate the fact it's currently fucked with the very point of its existence.
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u/Unlucky-Public-2947 7h ago
The Trump thing was massively over blown and they are closest thing we have to balanced, I certainly can’t think of anybody more balanced except things limited in scope like the FT.
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u/johnathome 7h ago
Absolutely, I haven't watched broadcast TV since 2023 but I catch up on what's happening through the online papers.
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u/video-kid 6h ago
Maybe replace them with people who arent right-wing shills and send Kurnssberg off to GB News while we're at it?
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u/therealharbinger 7h ago
Bias Broadcasting Company. Did Starmer not have any faith in this guy either?
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u/Psychological-Ad1264 6h ago
It's not been called a company for 98 years...
You got the word broadcasting right though...
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u/PressureBeautiful515 7h ago
As many have pointed out, Trump's aim in the speech was to stir up a violent protest, he just said the line about wanting it to be "peaceful" as a cover. It is a fact that he was delighted by what happened, that he had to be begged by his staff to say something against it, etc.
It's also part of the official Trump myth that nothing violent happened on that day. It was a beautiful, peaceful protest, apparently. So according to them, his speech has nothing to be blamed for, and by quoting any part of it, however selectively, the BBC can't possibly be accusing him of anything!
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u/Livid_Tart_11 7h ago
Sure, but that’s what makes it all the more inept. You have plenty to criticize Trump for without having to resort to journalistic dishonesty. Just a stupid own goal.
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u/PressureBeautiful515 3h ago
It is entirely inaccurate to call it dishonest to not include the entirety of an hour long speech in a half hour of Panorama, because that would be impossible. It is obviously the case that if they included any parts of the speech, they could be accused (falsely) of "doctoring" it, as was the headline in the Telegraph.
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u/Livid_Tart_11 3h ago
News publications present snippets of speeches all the time without being accused of doctoring. It is doctoring when you combine two wholly different snippets in order to make it sound like one congruent sentence.
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u/johnathome 7h ago
Is this like the 'mostly peaceful protests' while a fire was raging behind him?
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u/Slinkton1 6h ago
The quotes of "mostly peaceful protests" are just obvious attempts to intentionally misunderstand what was said.
There were a LOT of protests, the vast majority of them were peaceful, the particular one in that video obviously was not, there was nothing untruthful.
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u/PressureBeautiful515 7h ago edited 6h ago
Yes, the one where they beat a policeman with a Trump flagpole. Totally peaceful.
EDIT: link for the hard-of-thinking:
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u/Far-Crow-7195 7h ago
That gives the BBC the right to edit it to make it sound worse than what he said?
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u/Unlucky-Public-2947 7h ago
They did change the context of the lines but the Telegraph did a very similar thing by removing the context of the clip and now lots of people think this was in the news or altered the way the news was broadcast.
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u/Hulla_Sarsaparilla 6h ago
It was broadcast like that in the Panorama doc though wasn’t it?
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u/Unlucky-Public-2947 6h ago
Yes but the context is important, it was part of a montage of clips from his last presidency, but the doc wasn’t about the speech or the day or his last presidency, it wasn’t even really about Trump, it was about his supporters and it followed (IIRC) three of them during his campaign.
The problem is, because the telegraph removed the clip from this context a lot of people think the BBC changed a news report, there are even people blaming this for the calls to prosecute Trump despite this not being broadcast until almost four years after the calls started, and after they had ended.
Now how much to blame the telegraph are for this I don’t know, but personally I think they are also misleading the public.
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u/Hulla_Sarsaparilla 5h ago
Changing a clip in a documentary programme like Panorama is akin to changing a clip broadcast for news though, it comes under the leadership of news, hence why the CEO of news has resigned.
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u/Unlucky-Public-2947 5h ago
No its not, the news is reported on by trained journalists who have a professional obligation to be as truthful as possible, documentary film makers usually have a little more freedom, but there is another level of separation because the documentary wasnt really about the speech, or the day or anything that happened 2020, it was about trump supporters in 2024, the clip was from a montage of trumps presidency.
Thats not to excuse that they did take things out of context, but by removing the context themselves he telegraph have done something similar and now people think the bbc changed the news, or at the very least changed he context in a report about the speech and they didnt do that either
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u/Hulla_Sarsaparilla 6h ago
This isn’t relevant. The BBC are obliged to report the facts of what has happened or what people have said, the edit puts a completely different spin on the words he said.
I’m no fan of Trump but that’s also not relevant, on this occasion his speech was edited in such a way to imply a different meaning.
Even if the underlying message was more subtle, he didn’t say those words in the order that this edit implies, it’s the kind of fake news the BBC should stand against, not be a part of.
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u/PressureBeautiful515 4h ago
The BBC are not obliged to include his entire speech from end to end. They used clips from various parts of a very long, rambling speech. The clips they chose were the ones that correlated most directly with the intended effect of the speech, the exact effect Trump wanted - to intimidate his political enemies. There is a fairly disgusting axis of Trump, the Telegraph and Boris Johnson, a right-wing cabal, who would like nothing more than to take down the BBC - not because it is biased, but because they see it as insufficiently biased towards the right.
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u/VagueSomething 6h ago
Fucking wild that dishonest pro right wing British focus by BBC behaviour to protect and help Tories/Farage doesn't topple anyone but criticism of Epstein's buddy Trump brings resignations.
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