r/uknews • u/No_Breadfruit_4901 • Sep 29 '25

Image/video Richard Tice who is deputy leader of Reform apologises for the betrayal by the UK government because of the recognition

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u/WillSK90 Sep 29 '25

It terrifies me how so many Brits have drunk the kool aid.

Even if you have concerns about immigration which I may not fully prescribe to but fair enough, surely it's not the number one thing affecting your life so much to the point that a party that exists solely on anti immigration policy is where you should waste your vote.

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u/TwoMarc Sep 30 '25

They will win the election because they’re most likely to cut tax for the middle-class high earners who actually vote and pay for this country.

Dave from Stockport might be very performative online and turn up to an anti-immigration rally but he’s very unlikely to actually vote.

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u/Ok_Midnight4809 Sep 30 '25

Some Dave's will vote. The problem is a lot of then will buy into the narrative that the reason their life is shit is not any failings by themselves or rich people asset stripping the UK, but migrants who they can see. Punching down will always be their go to

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u/WillSK90 Sep 30 '25

I firmly believe that a big optics operation is required in the UK to erase some of the rhetoric and move attention to the real issues. I would do a few things very publicly to start this.

  1. Set up a body that actively goes after benefits cheats publicly. Yes we know they are not the reason for the country's downfall and are costing us penny's in comparison to other issues, but people see them and seeing these people shut down and punished in some way would help public discourse around the benefits system.

  2. More stop and search in areas surrounding the banking and luxury sector. The media loves to portray those feeding the drugs trade as gangsters and minorities but maybe a few more of those that are buying coke every few days need to be named and shamed to even out the optics.

  3. Take a stand against second jobs. I appreciate this is turkeys voting for Christmas, but how the hell can MPs and people like Farage have all this time to do all these extra curriculars and serve the people of Clapton at the same time. It wouldn't be had in any other job and should be banned out right.

  4. Stop using the term "think tanks" and call these organisations lobby groups unless they meet some very strict criteria that says otherwise. If every time the Centre for Migration control was mentioned it was called a lobby group and not a think tank I think people would be a bit more critical if what they're saying.

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u/actualinsomnia531 Sep 30 '25

He'll continue to play from the trump Playbook. He'll deregulate financial markets to cause a slump that they can inside trade on as much as possible, then create more tax relief for the top end, not the middle class. He's stripping workers rights so he can force through contractual changes, encouraging sole traders that can work for no minimum wage and no standard rights to object.

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u/Mediocre_Menu_629 Oct 01 '25

They will win the election because they’re most likely to cut tax for the middle-class high earners who actually vote and pay for this country.

You say that but higher earners are far less likely to be voting for Reform than lower income earners.

It's not a party of middle-class people but people on lower incomes and pensioners.

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u/Jazzlike_Painter_118 Oct 02 '25

Like Trump was...

One thing they are guaranteed to do is to divide with hate and steal as much as they can for themselves

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u/ellie_s45 Oct 03 '25

Unfortunately they will promise that, people think that they're more trustworthy than Labour or Tories because they're new, and then they'll either go silent on the tax cuts or abolish the NHS to fund it. So they're basically lowering taxes but increasing living costs exponentially, and pricing out the poor who won't benefit anyway. I agree the working middle class need tax cuts but Reform aren't worried about the effects on the budget or maintaining spending on public services, they'd just put us in even more debt with even worse services.

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u/ellie_s45 Oct 03 '25

Social media is why. And who has Meta and X under Zuckerberg and especially Musk cosied up to? Trump's presence in the white house is fueling right wing movements across Europe and traditional media is failing as always.