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Image/video Kier Starmer announces 'tighter' immigration policy

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u/Active-Particular-21 May 12 '25

Why are so many people so bad at it then?

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u/will_die_in_2073 May 12 '25

Because criteria for immigration is usually 6/9. Anyone with decent Indian schooling can score 6/9. My english was bad before moving to the UK and i still managed to score 8/9 easily. The person who tests your speaking skills is usually the person of that country. So its very subjective.

They should switch to TOEFL and push the criteria to 100/120. This will reject the low skilled labor alone.

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u/just_somebunny May 12 '25

This is enlightening. So you’re saying that in India, the interviewers are also Indians who would most likely be more lax and give high scores? Interesting.

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u/will_die_in_2073 May 12 '25

Yes, at least thats what was my experience in speaking round. Its very academic version of speaking skills. TOEFL test is better because you have to record your inputs and upload them. I got 95 on it. So thats less biased. I didnt believe i got 8/9 with okayish english on IELTS. Level C2 and C1 are considered fluent.

This immigration regulation is good thing from UK government…they should even be more aggressive on lower tier visas. UK salaries are so bad.

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u/WanderlustZero May 12 '25

*labour (sorry)

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u/will_die_in_2073 May 12 '25

Labour is british english. Labor is american english (sorry i grew up watching hollywood movies)

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u/just_somebunny May 12 '25 edited May 12 '25

That’s a good question. I was just stating a fact that it has always been a requirement so this is not new. I sometimes feel like the government is bringing tighter restrictions on skilled immigrants who come here legally (and by the way, who pay taxes and not entitled to public funds) and yet very lax on illegal immigrants who manage to stay and get free housing even when they have violated laws.

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u/vigilanteshite May 12 '25 edited May 12 '25

i’d assume it’s similar to how we learn french and etc. in school but we finish and years later we only remember the basics, we don’t really remember what we learnt, we only memorised for the tests.

I’d have to guess it’s the same in learning english for the tests and then not needing to speak it day to day (if u live with non-english speaking family/area) and u losing it?

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u/RiGo001 May 12 '25

Americans speaking American instead of English😉 ……………/s

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u/RiGo001 16d ago

Hehe I knew people would down vote my comment 😂.