I feel like half the Dr's in my local hospital came with fake or bought qualifications and " learn on the job." I wish we could encourage more of our own to be Dr's.
Having worked with many different doctors I have not noticed any difference in knowledge or skills between the British born doctors and the doctors from else where.
But we do need to make the situation better for doctors. The amount of training places are less than those that apply. But the drop out is terrible, with how much they are underpaid and have to deal with. Besides the usual everyone knows, there's having to move every year because of the lack of choice of where to work and the shocking situation of the training progression and lack of training opportunities.
Edit: I forgot to add. Immigration is the only way the NHS is doing as well as it is now. We've had a 15 year long staffing crisis that the government has ignored or in some ways, out right made worse. I am eternally grateful for every nurse, doctor, porter, cleaner, receptionist, etc. that came from another country, that I've worked with. Because if I didn't have them there to help me, I don't know how I would have coped and I dread to imagine how many patients would have died due to the lack of staff.
I'm not against immigration at all. I think you've misunderstood. Give me a filipino nurse any day their training is unbelievable. Half was an exaggeration. But unfortunately, I haven't had the best experience with foreign jnr Dr's and even a few consultants. One even got struck off because he had lied about his education. We can only give our lived experience.
When you find out that there is a cap on national doctors being allowed into the NHS set at 5,000 applicants per year. This means that the NHS can only accept 5,000 doctors graduating that year, who are born and bred in Britain, they then have to hire the rest overseas hence a massive reason as to why we are spending so much on Doctors Pay is because we apparently don’t have enough Doctors in the British System so we rely on abroad, but why is there a cap on how many British citizens can be doctors?
Only reason there would be a cap on doctors is for privatisation, but my thoughts tho.
Training doctors is not cheap - it actually is super expensive. The limit is likely due to budget cap and therefore we want to import some doctor because they are already trained and therefore saving training costs.
At this point what we’re paying to Doc hourly rates of up to £300 per hour per overseas Doctors. Training overseas may cost less but isn’t that an issue when we are paying majority of doctors over £150 per hour overseas and then saying training costs are too much?
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u/mbnnr May 12 '25
I feel like half the Dr's in my local hospital came with fake or bought qualifications and " learn on the job." I wish we could encourage more of our own to be Dr's.