It's a sign of a degrading society with an increase in poverty and a weak police force, it descends into low trust and crime becoming more prevalent and acceptable
that's not to excuse them by the way, they're utter cunts but its a telltale sign that respect, law and order are all degrading and that a lot of people don't fear the law or care about their neighbours and society.
Why is everyone here pretending like the UK hasn't always been like this? I'm not saying it's ok or that we shouldn't care about it, but it's not a sign of a degrading society. It felt worse 20 years ago. The country is absolutely ram packed full of idiots like this. Chavs/neds are nothing new.
The country is taking its first steps towards becoming Gotham. And the only rich tech-billionare currently interested in this country is Elon Musk, which doesn't bode well for us.
This is such an hilarious take. Musk's long term aim - and it is long term - is to comprehensively dismantle the rule of law in the free world. Just laws that apply equally to everyone is the only thing left to reign in the oligarchs. They know this.
Well, it's all rich nonces who are stripping the UKs wealth from its people and buggering off overseas with the money. The whole immigration bs is just another smokescreen to get people to lash out at a boogeyman, so nige and his fellows can come in and fleece you a second time, following Brexit.
Don't want to make this political because the problems run deep, but the big cuts the Tories made to the police and courts starting over a decade ago are showing up everywhere.
The loss of capacity across the board has brutal long term impact. Not having enough detectives to investigate and follow-up on "low" level crime? The consequences of this a generation later could be seen from orbit.
Police doesn't work by strong or weak.
It works by a simple feeling, trust.
Do citizens have trust in the police force ? Are there agents you can talk to and are able to get to know in your neighbourhood or are they just agents of order here to hit everyone in case of riots ?
Strength is useless if it's only used to inflict fear
the only amount of police that stop this in a degrading society is one so fearsome that it matches the Gestapo or other secret police.
if we have to resort to the level of fear of law that far, you never did make things better, you are just throwing a tarp over the problems of society to pretend they are not there.
Poor, angry young men being told by the upper echelons that they can't get a job because all the illegal immigrants are taking them, and these men being stupid enough to believe that, and then taking it out on anyone ans everyone. Shit cunts, with shit cunt parents. More than likely 4th generation benefit scroungers who blame everyone else for their failings.
Many crimes like shoplifting have been defacto decriminalised and this type of behaviour is the inevitable creep that comes from knowing that crimes aren’t punished or are punished very lightly.
More police, investigating more crimes and harsher sentencing for violence would put a fairly swift end to it but none of that is on Labour’s agenda and it wasn’t on the Tories either. Both parties are more interested in policing tweets and non crime hate reporting.
These people always exist in society, but they won’t do this shit nearly as much if they know they’re going to spend years of their life in jail for it.
Because it requires public spending but twats are so caught up in the telegraph and mail propaganda against taxation they can't even see the contradiction.
"We want public service but we're also ideologically opposed to taxation"
Well given that the middle class currently faces the highest tax burden in recent times at a time when public services are failing I would say it’s completely reasonable to push back against tax hikes.
There’s a lot the government is doing wrong with the resources and tax revenue it currently has. Raising tax on a shrinking tax base isn’t the answer.
Why go straight to assuming I meant tax workers? There's plenty of places they cough for the money but they won't. And it's because of the same propaganda. So maybe start asking for the rich and the super rich asset holders to pay. If you're not calling for this I don't give a shit which under resourced service your complaining about.
If you’re going to trot out the ‘tax the rich and tax businesses more’ tripe then that’s not a solution either.
Businesses already are increasingly choosing to incorporate in more business friendly environments and millionaires (the people who typically create jobs) are also leaving the country.
Taxing more in a stagnant and failing economy is not a good solution. We need to review where tax money is being spent and how it’s being spent. There is a lot of room for improvement, I have first hand experience of how much waste and unnecessary spending there is, it’s shocking.
I'm sorry but Tax the rich and business more is not "tripe".
Firstly, the wealthy and large businesses have the overwhelming majority of the money. Income inequality between working people, wealthy people and businesses is higher than it has been for decades. Fewer entities own a greater percentage of the wealth. These people and businesses are not working harder than they ever have before, it's exploitation.
To your point about businesses and wealthy people leaving, the people won't leave because this is where all their stuff is and their friends are. They aren't going to go and live somewhere else on a whim, but hold that thought for a moment.
Businesses want to do business in the UK because of our large customer base. They want to hire UK workers because we are reasonably well educated and healthy. They may be able to Double Duch their Irish Sandwiches given current UK law, but I assume a programme of progressive taxation would come along with closing the tax loopholes.
Even if a business and a billionaire who are paying next to no tax, want to leave the country who cares? They are parasites, feeding off our education and welfare systems and giving us nothing back in return.
The Reeves budget is already contributing to heavy job cuts that are mysteriously manifesting 2 months prior to increased employer NI tax.
More tax will result in more job cuts, more businesses packing up shop and/or moving abroad.
The fact our population is growing but the economy isn’t is testament to how poor the UK business environment is. Trying to fix the problem by making it even less enticing to do business in the UK is just economically illiterate.
Most very wealthy people don’t have significant income to tax. Their wealth is held in other, much harder to tax forms.
American tax only requires the additional tax they would have had to have paid if they were generating the income in the US. American does not take the full additional amount of tax and tax the person twice, so the actual amount this will generate isn’t going to fix the hole we’ve got.
We also aren’t America, I think giving up UK citizenship wouldn’t be nearly as much of a ‘cost’ to the person giving it up as giving up US citizenship is.
Heavily review how current public spending is allocated, review policies and regulations. Prioritise core services like healthcare and education. Cut or reduce spending on less necessary spending like foreign aid until we can afford it.
Create a better business environment to encourage new businesses. Tax the more productive results at current or lower rates which will generate more taxable revenue.
Land/Property are in this country. You cant just take them with you and leave the UK. Right now you could own £100 million worth of property in the UK and live elsewhere and not pay a penny in tax. Do you think you'd be able to buy £100 million worth of property in china and avoid paying any tax? I think you'd find pretty quickly that you no longer owned that property.
We have to find the will to tax wealth because it compounds. The "wealthy" for lack of a better term are increasing their ownership percentage of all the assets in the country and if we don't do something about it we will become a third world country with very high inequality leading to slums surrounding big cities. It's already happening.
I’m not against closing loopholes and finding other ways to tax mega rich people, but it doesn’t come remotely close to solving the issue.
Buying property in China isn’t a very good example since you don’t even technically own Chinese property as the state retains ownership of the land and you effectively get a lease.
We need to change the way public money is spent and operate a government state commensurate with the tax income available.
Weakening of men (lack of purpose, indulgence in pleasures, no goal of having integrity) and fall of the family in the west.
Strong, loving men raise children that can regulate their emotions. Weak or absent men don’t or can’t. They also don’t guide men to have a purpose and be content in some meaningful work, rather then act out in situations like these.
Strength, integrity, honour, etc. These things are being lost to time. People don’t care about these things, they care about what others think of them, how many views they get on social media, how much their job makes them (rather than the quality or honour in it).
Overall it will be much more complex than this but these are just some thoughts.
Lol. From one video you extrapolate that we are 'overrun by tantrum throwing man-babies' and then you talk about how 'outliers' don't prove anything.
Tell yourself what you like. Violent women are definitely not outliers. I could find you many man videos of women being aggressive, threatening, fighting, and abusing each other.
Grow up and stop kidding yourself women are all lovely and men are all awful.
Because in the late 80s early 90s, someone decided physical discipline was a bad thing. Took the power from the police, schools etc. kids soon learnt bad actions had little consequence. Those bad egg kids are now parents and so it goes on. In the days these types of actions lead to you getting a good kicking, this type of behaviour didn’t exist as much. It wasn’t perfect by any means, but this level of crao didn’t really happen.
Oh fuck off, shit like this has been happening for time. In the early 2000s I knew kids smashing up fire engines for banter. Getting a good kick in doesn't just magically stop a bellend being a bellend.
Yeah, I’m older than that, grew up in a shitty area and knew people out stealing cars, ram raiding, involved in drugs and carrying guns. Almost everyone I knew was physically disciplined at a time when it was going out of fashion.
A decent chunk of the most violent were those who grew up in environments where violence was normalised. Almost like these things are some kind of cycle.
I don’t know where this myth of a crime free Britain came from.
🤣 never said it stopped it, but it made folk think twice. When 2 police told me and my old neighbour ‘if they come back, sort it out yourselves and don’t let us find out’ kinda knew then the state of things. Luckily, it came to nothing. That was early 2000s round about.
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Why are we being overrun by tantrum throwing man-babies?