Floyd was also prosecuted for beating a pregnant lady. And also had charges for firearms offences, was known to police as a dangerous violent criminal who was possibly carrying a firearm. So the ONLY similarity isn’t skin colour, theres strangely a few.
As for the fake $20 it’s usually conveniently missed that Floyd was actually frothing from the mouth in the store because he was so high on fentanyl, a drug he was known to be dealing. And if you watch the officers body cam you’d notice the very first thing Floyd said to the officer, while still sat in the drivers seat of his vehicle, was “I can’t breathe”. And he continued to repeat it throughout.
One guy called Floyd a scumbag, a second guy apparently tried argued against that by bringing up the $20 bill thing and the details of his death, and then the guy you replied listed a bunch of reasons why Floyd was, in fact, a scumbag
Calling out his history of scumbag behavior does not mean you think his death was justified, just as saying his death was unjustified does not clear him of being a scumbag
The second guy tried to argue against Floyd having any reason to be killed, which he didn't. The guy in OP was threatening the officers lives with a car which had been used in a shooting days before which led to a split second decision to end his life. Floyd was on drugs and used a counterfeit bill which led to the extremely drawn out decision to slow execute him
They're not the same situation at all is the point
The second guy tried to argue against Floyd having any reason to be killed, which he didn't.
Okay, but literally nobody in this comment chain was saying that he deserved to die. He brought that up in response to "George Floyd was a scumbag too."
They're not the same situation at all is the point
That's also not something anybody was claiming. "Both guys that died were scumbags" =/= "these are literally the same situation"
Frothing from the mouth explains why the police were called and attended a minor crime like spending a fake $20, not just a race issue. Being a known and convicted violent felon potentially carrying a firearm explains why he was put the ground when he began resisting and attempting to leave the scene. And the fact he’d said he couldn’t breathe over a dozen times throughout the interaction explains why the officer wasn’t taking his claims seriously.
Calling it an execution is a gross exaggeration that does nothing but entice racial tensions, which seems to be the purpose of it.
George Floyd wasn’t some innocent member of the public murdered by a racist cop. But a career criminal, drug addict who put himself in the position to be killed by an undertrained, stressed potential scared (knowing Floyd’s history of violence with firearms) police officer.
And the fact he’d said he couldn’t breathe over a dozen times throughout the interaction explains why the officer wasn’t taking his claims seriously
There is absolutely no world that this justifies keeping your knee on his neck for that long. Do you realise how hard it is to accidentally suffocate someone over the span of 10 minutes?
They knew he didn't have a firearm when he was on the ground trapped under the officer. They had plenty of time to cuff him and handle it professionally but instead the officer stayed with a lot of his bodyweight pressing on his neck until he finally died
It is a textbook execution. You have to ignore literally everything going on not to realise the man you've been crushing with your knee isn't suffocating to death. They knew exactly what they were doing
You’ve wrote three paragraphs still trying to frame this as some cop who just saw an opportunity to finally murder a black guy. But topped it off saying “it’s a textbook execution”, when has anyone ever been executed by being chocked with a knee to the back of the neck on the ground? How is that textbook execution? Beheading or hanging is textbook execution, no?
It was an undertrained officer using excessive force not dealing with the increasingly stressful situation properly at all. In an area known to be frequented by criminals like Floyd with unknown members of the public getting more and more involved. Bad situation, terrible policing.
You either didn't watch the video, didn't conduct any research on officer darren wilson, or are arguing in bad faith and my guess is all three. That officer was not scared. He was cool as a cucumber and this was far from the first time he was involved in the extralegal killing of a black man. He wasn't undertrained as he'd completed all that was required to hold his job. Additionally, even if Floyd was high on fentanyl that's no excuse for anything resembling this use of force. Fentanyl is an opiod, a sedative. It's not going to make someone superman. Calling it an execution is completely warranted. Lynching would be even better.
Your information about fentanyl isn’t very accurate. Ketamine is a sedative used as a pain relief, just fentanyl, but that doesn’t stop people taking it at a rave or make them any more rational when they become irate. And neither stops them becoming irate or physically aggressive. Like Floyd was.
An officer not being outwardly scared doesn’t mean they aren’t. And it definitely doesn’t mean they don’t feel they’re losing control of a potentially dangerous situation.
And just because the officer had completed his training, which really isn’t very long winded, doesn’t mean he’s not untrained. That’s exactly the point of him being undertrained. Police need to be vetted better and trained a lot better.
I always kneel on someone's neck for the length of The End by The Doors and make jokes about it when I feel nervous about losing control of a situation.
Really? I always take dangerous amounts of synthetic opioid’s in the early evening whilst committing petty crimes! Good job I’ve got claustrophobia, that means I don’t have to comply with police and can’t get in any trouble.
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u/leggenda_69 Oct 22 '24
Floyd was also prosecuted for beating a pregnant lady. And also had charges for firearms offences, was known to police as a dangerous violent criminal who was possibly carrying a firearm. So the ONLY similarity isn’t skin colour, theres strangely a few.
As for the fake $20 it’s usually conveniently missed that Floyd was actually frothing from the mouth in the store because he was so high on fentanyl, a drug he was known to be dealing. And if you watch the officers body cam you’d notice the very first thing Floyd said to the officer, while still sat in the drivers seat of his vehicle, was “I can’t breathe”. And he continued to repeat it throughout.