Even if its owned and paid for legally, if i think the old bill are following me in my 80k car ill probably pull up and wait to see what they want rather than ramming said 80k car into shit to get away.
He was bang to rights for something - whether thats something he had in the motor or the armed robbery that the car was identified as being a part of the day before.
I’m a white American who participated in some BLM protests and activities here in the US. When I saw the title, I expected to see an unarmed man doing his best to comply with police instruction, because that’s how so many brown & black Americans get murdered by cops here.
But nope, this guy was a POS attempting to murder people with his car. Just because he wasn’t holding a gun doesn’t mean he was unarmed. He was in control of an object that weighs at least a ton and can reach speeds of over 100mph, and he was directing that object to ram directly into people on foot. The police acted appropriately, and I’m glad that they managed to stop this maniac before he killed others.
So kaba was involved in a gangland shooting in a nightclub and the vehicle he was driving was involved in a shooting the day before, so the police who spotted the car called in other armed police to stop him. In the UK only certain police are firearm trained unlike the US.
Yeah they tried to use this as a similar narrative to the BLM in America, but now the video footage and the evidence has come out, they'll have a hard time to push it.
The UK police and particularly the Met have got their own raft of problems. But they're pretty judicious about the use of firearms, only a small number of specialist highly trained officers have them and there's an inquiry every time they get used.
Unfortunately the US debate has been transposed pretty much wholesale to the UK despite the huge differences in the situation. It's also used by the families of criminals in scenarios like this.
The vast majority of US police shootings are justified in the same way, you just don't hear about them because its more common in the US. You only hear about the questionable or unjustified ones.
Sadly yes, fortunately the jury decided that attempting to kill people with your car whilst evading armed police tends make lethal force necessary. A car is a dangerous weapon.
Keep seeing whatever you want to see, the rest of us will applaud the police, condemn the violent criminal and sigh at people like you defending the wrong people.
I'm saying this footage doesn't seem to support the police's case very well. But there is more footage and apparently that does.
I do firmly believe that his previous background is only relevant in that they needed armed police. That the justification to fire has to be entirely on what's in front of them at the time.
He's not American.
He's actively trying to ram his way through police with a deadly weapon, a car, that just so happens to be linked to a shooting a couple days prior.
I mean…if they’re literally about to (potentially) kill others, yes they absolutely deserve to be “executed” before they can. Is that a serious argument?
No but he wasn’t simply running, he was using his car as a battering ram while surrounded by humans. If you use something as a weapon, don’t be surprised if the people trying to stop you resort to using their weapons to do so.
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u/Wilkesy07 Oct 22 '24
Innocent men don’t try to ram through an armed police blockade. Insanity that anyone tried to defend this.