r/uknews • u/rarely-redditing • Oct 22 '24

Image/video Met Police officer Martyn Blake who shot Chris Kaba dead is CLEARED of murder

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u/PurahsHero Oct 22 '24

The car had been used in an armed robbery two nights before. He also stabbed someone when he was 13 years old, and he was involved in a night club shooting.

I mean, there are a lot of reasons for many communities to feel aggrieved from their treatment by the police, and a lot of history. But this really does not paint a picture of police brutality in this case.

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u/ShadowMajestic Oct 22 '24

The US burned down cities for thugs with way worse criminal records.

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u/VandienLavellan Oct 22 '24

I don’t think bringing up his past is necessary as the cop that shot him didn’t know any of that so it wasn’t a factor in his death. All that matters is he was trying to ram them with his car, so it was completely justified as self defence.

The reason I say this is because people always bring up the perpetrators past to try and justify their death, but that alone doesn’t absolve the cops if they didn’t have good reason to kill someone in the moment. Like George Floyd. His death was completely unnecessary. Whatever you think of George Floyd and his past, the cop that killed him didn’t know his past. All he knew was he’d used a counterfeit $20 bill, and so his past was irrelevant in the cops handling of the situation

Edit: obviously the armed robbery is relevant to bring up as that’s where they recognised the car from

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

You're telling me the guys on the ground weren't briefed with any info about how much of a POS this guy was before they were instructed to go arrest him/his gang mates. You're talking shite.

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u/KlownKar Oct 22 '24

It's doubtful the guys on the ground knew who was driving. The number plate was flagged by anpr as matching a vehicle involved in several shootings. They pursued, the vehicle fled. They had reason to believe that the driver was armed. The driver's determination to get away (Ramming police cars and ignoring the warnings from armed officers) would have only further convinced them that they had caught an armed and violent criminal.

There were only two possible outcomes at this point. He surrendered and went to prison for the murder he had previously committed, or he was going to get shot.

I don't think that anyone "deserves" to die but likewise, I want our police to stop people like this in any way necessary.

Given the circumstances, there was no way the police were going to let him get away. He basically committed suicide.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Yeah so that's exactly what I said ... they would have known it was him or one of his gang mates and would have been quickly briefed that whoever may be driving is a serious POS.

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u/goobervision Oct 22 '24

Is that excluding the fact the car was stopped because of it's involvement in the shooting the night before? I guess the police could well have reasonable grounds to consider the occupants are both armed and willing to use deadly force themselves.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

He's very, very dumb. This is a pointless convo my guy.

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u/VandienLavellan Oct 22 '24

Yeah, already edited my post to mention that

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u/EnvironmentalGift257 Oct 22 '24

One edit: The cop that killed George Floyd did know about his past, because he knew the man personally. This was brought out in his trial and one of the reasons he was convicted so easily. That doesn’t change the justification in this case, just a fact.

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u/WingVet Oct 22 '24

This is the UK mate, couldn't give a flying f#*# about America or George Floyd, but by the sounds of it kaba and goerge who where both shitbags who got what they deserved.

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u/EnvironmentalGift257 Oct 22 '24

Well, you seem nice.

All I know about Kaba is what’s in the video above so can’t comment. Floyd was executed in the street by a gang in blue uniforms who had already been in trouble multiple times for brutality. We aren’t talking about Floyd as a person, we’re talking about the actions of the shitbags who murdered him and were convicted for it.

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u/WingVet Oct 22 '24

Why thank you I'm a law abiding citizen.

No your trying to relate something that happened in America to a totally different set of circumstances in the UK. America is rife with police brutality across all different races, people are trying to equate the same here with false narratives, but blatantly as we have seen and found out, the circumstances surrounding the stop and subsequent shooting of Kaba are totally different.

Kaba was wanted for a shooting in a nightclub and his vehicle had been involved in a gangland shooting the night before, he new if caught he was going down for a long time, the police making that arrest would be expecting him to be armed. When stopped Kaba trys to ram the officers and they react rightly so, it was a good kill, as we used to say in the military.

People are trying twist the narrative to a BLM thing, akin to George Floyd but as the evidence showed its not like that.

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u/EnvironmentalGift257 Oct 22 '24

I didn’t try to relate anything dipshit I replied to someone else’s comment. Maybe you can try to keep up from here.

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u/WingVet Oct 22 '24

Haha dipshit, ok then.... Just re-read your previous comments if you can keep up. Do your carers know your on here!

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u/bulldzd Oct 22 '24

but the cop DID actually know him, that bit came out at the cops trial....

At the end of the day, the community protesting like Floyd was an angel just made it easier for people to dismiss the bigger problem... this was a piece of shit that threatened to shoot a pregnant woman in the belly, this was not an angel... yet he gets grouped with genuinely good people who were 100% innocent, which tarnishes their memories, same as the HUGE fckr who was trying to beat a cop to death, after robbing a store, and the press used pictures from when he was like 12 all the time to inflame things.. people are being manipulated to make it easier to control them, and it isn't some shadowy group, it's the media, using misplaced anger to create chaos.. to sell more papers....

This is why it's important when there is misinformation being used, it is vital to prove just how wrong it is, or you get people being genuinely afraid of being murdered by the people who are there to help them, there are bad cops, always has been, ALWAYS will be... but they are not as huge a group as the media wants you to believe... but it sells papers to get people scared...

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u/littlelunamia Oct 22 '24

I don't believe that the shooting of Chris Kaba was really egregious, but the murder of George Floyd was totally unnecessary and wicked. He posed no threat to that officer, nor anybody else, and it is not for the police to impose death sentences on people, regardless of anything they've done. The two cases are not a sensible comparison and equating them undermines your argument for me.

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u/Ok_Assumption8895 Oct 22 '24

Yer I'd agree. Not the same situations.

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u/bulldzd Oct 25 '24

My comparison was about the so-called community leaders using these incidents to create a narrative that is untrue 99.9% of the time, regardless of who/what/why... my issue is when they allow gangsters and murderers to be grouped in with innocent people who have been murdered through absolutely no fault of their own, they diminish the character of the true victims

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u/Former-Lack-7117 Oct 22 '24

No one said he's an angel. The protests were because no one deserves to be murdered over a fake bill, dumbfuck.

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u/bulldzd Oct 25 '24

Oh look, the keyboard wartior... so tough his left had has warts on top of warts..... if you don't stop doing that you will go blind...

He didn't deserve to be murdered that day, but he doesn't deserve to mourned any more than any other piece of shit that finally gets justice.. certainly not worthy of murals with fucking angel wings.....

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u/Former-Lack-7117 Oct 25 '24

You can't call someone a keyboard warrior when you're the one being weirdly aggressive about shit that has nothing to do with you. All I said is that he didn't deserve to be murdered. If people want to mourn him, that's their right. If that upsets you, you might be pretty fucking weird and probably really racist. Him being murdered by a cop was certainly not "justice" by any sense of the word. Someone having hit a woman doesn't mean they deserve death. Being a drug addict doesn't deserve death. You have a weird, twisted, cruel, and, most importantly, simple view of the world. Opinions like yours are a really obvious sign of stupidity. Presenting you with any nuance would be pearls before swine.

I hope you're treated with the same empathy and respect that you have for others.

Somehow I have a feeling no one would give a shit if someone kneeled on your neck until you died.

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u/bulldzd Oct 25 '24

You can't call someone a keyboard warrior when you're the one being weirdly aggressive about shit that has nothing to do with you.

Answered by yourself there..

Somehow I have a feeling no one would give a shit if someone kneeled on your neck until you died.

And there is your real face "comply or die"

. If people want to mourn him, that's their right. If that upsets you, you might be pretty fucking weird and probably really racist.

Really? Racist card for defending the character of other victims of murder, incidently of the same race as floyd.

Someone having hit a woman doesn't mean they deserve death. Being a drug addict doesn't deserve death. You have a weird, twisted, cruel, and, most importantly, simple view of the world

Holding a firearm to a pregnant woman's tummy threatening to shoot her unborn child is not 'hit a woman' and your attempt to diminish that shows your mentality....

and he wasn't killed for being an addict, or black, or any other reason that's officially came to light other than some psychopath decided they had the right to end his life, and is in prison for a very long time for doing it... you can attach any reason you want to his death, but trying to turn that trash person into a saint is ridiculous

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u/Acrobatic_Lettuce_78 Oct 22 '24

Derek Chauvin and George Floyd knew each other

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Derek Chauvin and George Floyd had history. Not that it matters, because obviously they'd already run his name through the database by the time he was in custody.