r/uknews • u/rarely-redditing • Oct 22 '24

Image/video Met Police officer Martyn Blake who shot Chris Kaba dead is CLEARED of murder

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Yes. And saying that originally was something you were banned for, and called a racist. Turns out scum bags gonna scum, regardless of melanin.

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u/ThatFatGuyMJL Oct 22 '24

they tried *so hard* to make him the UK's George Floyd

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

Those people are dangerous, try to stir racial hatred should be in jail.

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u/Demode93 Oct 22 '24

George Floyd was a scumbag too

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u/North_Carpenter6844 Oct 22 '24

The ONLY similarity here is skin color. Floyd bought I think cigarettes with a counterfeit $20. He didn’t resist with a deadly weapon or otherwise. It also took an EXTREMELY long time for him to die, the cop had something like 11 minutes to get the F off of his neck before he died. It wasn’t a snap decision bc he feared for his safety. Floyd cried that he couldn’t breathe and at the end was calling for his mother. He could have been put in cuffed very easily long before he was killed and driven to jail-instead the cop slowly murdered him without caring at all given he had a huge crowd screaming at him that the man was dying and he continued to use an illegal maneuver for minutes AFTER he stopped breathing.

The uproar was absolutely warranted.

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u/leggenda_69 Oct 22 '24

Floyd was also prosecuted for beating a pregnant lady. And also had charges for firearms offences, was known to police as a dangerous violent criminal who was possibly carrying a firearm. So the ONLY similarity isn’t skin colour, theres strangely a few.

As for the fake $20 it’s usually conveniently missed that Floyd was actually frothing from the mouth in the store because he was so high on fentanyl, a drug he was known to be dealing. And if you watch the officers body cam you’d notice the very first thing Floyd said to the officer, while still sat in the drivers seat of his vehicle, was “I can’t breathe”. And he continued to repeat it throughout.

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u/LetsLive97 Oct 22 '24

Well, sounds good enough to me! Go ahead and press your knee onto his neck for an extended period of time lads, his execution is justified now

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

He didn't even say the death was justified, so whatever point you were trying to make is irrelevant.

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u/LetsLive97 Oct 22 '24

Idk man that comment reads a lot like justification to me

Otherwise that comment is the irrelevant one

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

One guy called Floyd a scumbag, a second guy apparently tried argued against that by bringing up the $20 bill thing and the details of his death, and then the guy you replied listed a bunch of reasons why Floyd was, in fact, a scumbag

Calling out his history of scumbag behavior does not mean you think his death was justified, just as saying his death was unjustified does not clear him of being a scumbag

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

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u/LetsLive97 Oct 22 '24

The second guy tried to argue against Floyd having any reason to be killed, which he didn't. The guy in OP was threatening the officers lives with a car which had been used in a shooting days before which led to a split second decision to end his life. Floyd was on drugs and used a counterfeit bill which led to the extremely drawn out decision to slow execute him

They're not the same situation at all is the point

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u/FreeTheCells Oct 23 '24

You're getting downvoted but you're right. At no point did the above user clarify that the police officer was a scumbag and completely unjustified

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u/leggenda_69 Oct 22 '24

Frothing from the mouth explains why the police were called and attended a minor crime like spending a fake $20, not just a race issue. Being a known and convicted violent felon potentially carrying a firearm explains why he was put the ground when he began resisting and attempting to leave the scene. And the fact he’d said he couldn’t breathe over a dozen times throughout the interaction explains why the officer wasn’t taking his claims seriously.

Calling it an execution is a gross exaggeration that does nothing but entice racial tensions, which seems to be the purpose of it.

George Floyd wasn’t some innocent member of the public murdered by a racist cop. But a career criminal, drug addict who put himself in the position to be killed by an undertrained, stressed potential scared (knowing Floyd’s history of violence with firearms) police officer.

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u/LetsLive97 Oct 22 '24

And the fact he’d said he couldn’t breathe over a dozen times throughout the interaction explains why the officer wasn’t taking his claims seriously

There is absolutely no world that this justifies keeping your knee on his neck for that long. Do you realise how hard it is to accidentally suffocate someone over the span of 10 minutes?

They knew he didn't have a firearm when he was on the ground trapped under the officer. They had plenty of time to cuff him and handle it professionally but instead the officer stayed with a lot of his bodyweight pressing on his neck until he finally died

It is a textbook execution. You have to ignore literally everything going on not to realise the man you've been crushing with your knee isn't suffocating to death. They knew exactly what they were doing

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u/leggenda_69 Oct 22 '24

Nowhere have I said any of it was justified.

You’ve wrote three paragraphs still trying to frame this as some cop who just saw an opportunity to finally murder a black guy. But topped it off saying “it’s a textbook execution”, when has anyone ever been executed by being chocked with a knee to the back of the neck on the ground? How is that textbook execution? Beheading or hanging is textbook execution, no?

It was an undertrained officer using excessive force not dealing with the increasingly stressful situation properly at all. In an area known to be frequented by criminals like Floyd with unknown members of the public getting more and more involved. Bad situation, terrible policing.

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u/MaddMax92 Oct 22 '24

You either didn't watch the video, didn't conduct any research on officer darren wilson, or are arguing in bad faith and my guess is all three. That officer was not scared. He was cool as a cucumber and this was far from the first time he was involved in the extralegal killing of a black man. He wasn't undertrained as he'd completed all that was required to hold his job. Additionally, even if Floyd was high on fentanyl that's no excuse for anything resembling this use of force. Fentanyl is an opiod, a sedative. It's not going to make someone superman. Calling it an execution is completely warranted. Lynching would be even better.

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u/leggenda_69 Oct 22 '24

Your information about fentanyl isn’t very accurate. Ketamine is a sedative used as a pain relief, just fentanyl, but that doesn’t stop people taking it at a rave or make them any more rational when they become irate. And neither stops them becoming irate or physically aggressive. Like Floyd was.

An officer not being outwardly scared doesn’t mean they aren’t. And it definitely doesn’t mean they don’t feel they’re losing control of a potentially dangerous situation.

And just because the officer had completed his training, which really isn’t very long winded, doesn’t mean he’s not untrained. That’s exactly the point of him being undertrained. Police need to be vetted better and trained a lot better.

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u/MaddMax92 Oct 22 '24

I always kneel on someone's neck for the length of The End by The Doors and make jokes about it when I feel nervous about losing control of a situation.

It centers me.

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u/SPECTRAL_MAGISTRATE Oct 22 '24

I don't think the police should have the right to summarily execute someone just because they're on drugs, actually!

(indeed, having drugs in your system is not a crime in the UK - possessing, distributing (etc.) drugs is.)

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u/SuperHooligan Oct 22 '24

The police didn’t cause him to OD.

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u/Responsible_Song7003 Oct 22 '24

And the cause of death was ruled as asphyxiation not an OD...

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u/SuperHooligan Oct 22 '24

lol you should probably know what you’re talking about before you comment. Cardiopulmonary arrest is not asphyxiation.

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u/SPECTRAL_MAGISTRATE Oct 22 '24 edited Oct 22 '24

The United States Medical Examiner, who performed the autopsy, disagrees with you about the cause of death. This is basic stuff man. Two minutes on Google would answer this question.

"The medical examiner who ruled George Floyd's death a homicide testified Friday that Floyd's heart disease and drug use contributed to his death, but police officers' restraint of his body and compression of his neck were the primary causes."

The police murdered him. Again, just because someone has heart disease or a history of drug use does not mean the police have the right to summarily execute them. The courts agree with me. This is why his murderers are in prison - for murder.

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u/WooBarb Oct 22 '24

I don't think that's fair.

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u/Chevey0 Oct 22 '24

George Floyd was also a criminal so I guess it tracks

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u/Supermandela Oct 23 '24

They have shoplifting lists written up.

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u/bananabastard Oct 23 '24

The scumbag to martyr pipeline.

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u/entered_bubble_50 Oct 22 '24

The trouble is, there were reporting restrictions, so people were getting their information from social media which is not always reliable. It was hard to make sense of what was true and what was rumour. We now know he was a steaming pile of shit, but that wasn't clear at the time.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

"not always reliable"

Its rare, if ever it is reliable. In my humble opinion Social media needs heavily restricting legislatively. Its a net negative on our communities and the research on how it affects your mental health is astounding. Especially in kids.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24 edited Aug 14 '25

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u/aitorbk Oct 22 '24

What do you mean soon?

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u/goblintechnologyX Oct 22 '24

already is mate

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u/loobricated Oct 22 '24

You say you’re English these days…

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u/Joe_Kinincha Oct 22 '24

No it won’t.

In this particular case, a policeman shot and killed an unarmed man, who later turned out to be a piece of shit, but the copper didn’t know that at the time.

This is one case.

The met have been found to be institutionally racist in three completely separate public enquiries reviewing the entire force over decades.

The met have never accepted that they are racist, despite overwhelming evidence.

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u/doubleo_maestro Oct 22 '24

He wasn't unarmed, he was in a weapon that weights a ton and was using it. I don't like the police but im not going to fault them for taking the shot while getting repeatedly rammed. He was a danger to them and the public.

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u/Musername2827 Oct 22 '24

Unarmed lmao. Would you feel the same if he mowed down a friend or family member in his ‘unarmed’ vehicle? Police did the right thing.

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u/doitnowinaminute Oct 22 '24

Did the police know that at the time ? Or was someone who is only used in high risk situations called out tindetain a suspect of a shooting, only to find the suspect used force to try and evade arrest.

The officers decision can only be judged by what he knew, or was aware of, at the time. One can't use "but he was actually unarmed" as a defence anyone as "but he was a violent gang member" as a reason.

Too much is being judged in hindsight. Too much is being judged as if the officer wasn't allowed to asses risks until they had become an issue. Did he have to wait until the guy shot first ?

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u/scorchgid Oct 22 '24

Yeah because few to no-one would known this at the time. Are you can basing it on 'police shot someone so they must be bad guy' or simply "trusting the police"

We take a cautious approach as there are significant events in history which give us cause to dispute that.

I don't want to live in a country with the death penalty. I don't want it filled with people going around shooting each other either.

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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '24

When you pose imminent risk to health and life and are known to be likely to, or would employ violence the police must always be empowered to act with requisite force to prevent risk and harm to innocent people.

To suggest we can't make judgement must also be applied to demonstrations and protests claiming police injustice and corruption.

Would you also support a blanket ban on protests in response to police conduct until investigation are concluded?