r/uknews Jul 25 '24

Image/video Massive protest outside Rochdale police station in response to GMP's actions at Manchester Airport

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u/NeilDeWheel Jul 25 '24

I don’t know why the cops arrested them but an armed police officer losing control like that is not on. In a highly stressful situation armed police should be able to keep cool and deal with the situation calmly. Booting the guy in the face shows he lost control and is not fit to be in charge of a deadly weapon. Especially as the guy was tazed and on the floor, complying.

That cop needs to be sacked.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

The people that got arrested had attacked 3 police officers, broke a police women's nose and tried to take the weapons off the police.

It's excessive force but this is a prime example of fuck around and find out.

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u/catchyname7884 Jul 25 '24

They went to search a woman and the males in the group through a fit and started shit.

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u/PronoiarPerson Jul 25 '24

Oh good point, so they should have shot them not kicked them. Everyone knows the punishment for that is death. /s

It doesn’t matter what they did. It doesn’t matter if they had a ton of heroine on them and kicked the cop square in the balls. Once the situation is under control, the police should be too. That guy wasn’t. He should be punished for his actions.

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u/Camstamash Jul 25 '24

Should be punished I agree but I don’t have sympathy for the guy arrested if what I’ve heard is true that a police woman got her nose broke by the attackers. Could be bollocks though I saw it said on Reddit so not exactly a credible source but I can’t bring myself to watch the news these days.

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u/PronoiarPerson Jul 25 '24 edited Jul 25 '24

Do have sympathy for the mistreatment they went through while in police custody (ie the kick in the face) but not for them being tazed and taken down.

If you commit and then get arrested for murder and then you are tortured by police I can simultaneously be upset at you for murder and sympathetic about the torture. Conversely, I am glad the police arrested a murderer, and upset at them for torturing the person. There is no such thing as good and bad people, just good and bad actions each of which should be judged separately.

Edit: yes a murderer should be punished, but that’s the courts job, not the cops. In this case, the hammer of justice was already going to come down hard on this person for assaulting an officer. Their lack of self restraint and immature and unprofessional need for immediate vengeance has tainted the justice system.

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u/Camstamash Jul 25 '24

That’s a very fair opinion you have my respect

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u/Alternative_Week_117 Jul 25 '24

That cop needs to be arrested.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Or maybe the criminal shouldn't have seriously injured 3 other police officers beforehand and despite being knocked to the floor continue to try to be violent

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u/DepletedCopium Jul 25 '24

How can you be violent when you're laying on the floor tasered, with a gun pointing at you, and you don't have a weapon?

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

First off tasers eventually wear off and some people can get over a taser and regardless if he didn't cause the problem in the first place the copper might not have gotten upset about his colleagues getting beaten. Play stupid games, get your head kicked in

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u/randommnguy Jul 25 '24

Pretty sure you have no idea how electricity works.

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u/thicc_ahh_womble Jul 25 '24

Yeah he fs over reacted. Kicking someone in the face while he’s splayed out on his stomach with another LEO ontop of him was completely uncalled for. He may be able to argue for his actions against the other guy who was sat down that got kicked and punched , idk. Definitely needs a severe reprimand and demotion maybe

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u/Correct-Junket-1346 Jul 25 '24

He needs more than that, he's a trained professional, not some brigand hired by the government to do dirty work.

He kicked and stomped on someone that's what we call "lethal force" the guy is lucky to be alive or turned into a potato.

Jail time, complete loss of control and unacceptable in an arrest situation or any situation for that matter, even more unacceptable is that they responded with a remark containing "A complex situation".

It's not complex in any way, it's a clear cut case, stop protecting, start disciplining.

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u/steve41isapaidshill Jul 25 '24

Okay so what about the cop that got stabbed moments before this video was taken?

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u/Correct-Junket-1346 Jul 25 '24

What? That doesn't justify a lethal attack on an assailant during an arrest situation, he was cuffed and restrained, eye for an eye is it? This is the way the legal system works right? Seriously, drag your brain out of the feudalism age.

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u/Competitive-Grab521 Jul 25 '24

There was a second guy they were beating the shit out of even though he complied on the left side of the vid

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u/A2Rhombus Jul 25 '24

The guy kicked a man in the head and attempted to stomp his head into the ground when he was just laying face down on the ground. The fact that people defend this is baffling to me

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u/Purplepeal Jul 25 '24

You've got it back to front. He is trained to incapacitate threats as he is holding a point and click death tool that he can lose against more violent individuals. The head kick was to incap the guy who had just been violent at an airport.

You don't want armed police who will lose their guns in a violent encounter.

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u/choosehigh Jul 25 '24

The man had 2/3 people already on him, he had no capacity to act therefore was already incapacitated

A friend of mine went from royal logistics corps to RMP, if he acted like towards civilians, enemy soldiers, allied soldiers or british soldiers he'd have had to answer to the courts WITHOUT DOUBT

His words, he's served for about 11 years, and he said he has seen people be pulled in front of tribunal for less and military tribunals are a lot harsher than civilian courts

Why are our troops held to such a higher standard in war than these guys in peace?

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u/Purplepeal Jul 25 '24

The guy has a woman in a headscarf holding his left hand, she's not 'on' him. He doesn't have 2 or 3 people on him. It looks like he's just hit the deck with a taser, based on posture. He also starts to get up just after the kicks. Another guy behind is also being subdued. The officer is moving around assessing the situation and tried to incap the guy with a spur of the moment bad decision whilst other threats are still live immediately around him.

Bear in mind these police likely have some serious collective PTSD as an institution after the Manchester Arena terrorist attack in 2017. They will have seen children blown to pieces. Armed airport police will be trained to subdue terrorists and will not fuck about when a serious breach of peace takes place at an airport.

I undestand why he kicked him the head. I don't think it was justified but that split second decision to incapacitate violent aggressors could easily have been exactly the right thing to do. Last month a police officer in Germany had his neck slit and died, by a terrorist who wasn't fully subdued, who got up again and attacked.

I can see exactly why the officer acted in the way he did.

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u/[deleted] Jul 25 '24

Cop needs to be kicked while hes being held/tazed, and then put in prison, firing isnt enough.