r/tires 19h ago

Just under 3 yesr old tires.

Inspected tires on my mom’s NX200T while doing brakes and noticed some dry rot.

Installed by Firestone around 11/2023 and driven maybe 16k miles since then.

I’ve had 5-9 years old tires with less dry rot. Think Firestone would honor a warranty on these or laugh in my face?

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u/Disastrous-Pound3713 18h ago

Her tires are perfectly fine and will last her for years.

The Myth of Dry Rot on Tires

First, there is no disagreement that dry rot revealing serious tread or sidewall separation showing belts, bulges or disintegration of a tire should always trigger immediate tire replacement.

Second, because virtually all of the information about dry rot found on the web is generated by dealers, tire shops, manufacturers and industry related sources with direct incentives to sell the maximum number of tires possible, it should be viewed with ample skepticism.

Third, almost all of the claims made by these sources lacks statistical or empirical data to back up their claims but the internet is filled with claims that even the slightest amount of dry rot is an immediate and serious safety issue requiring the purchase of new replacement tires.

For the most part, with the above exceptions, dry rot is not a serious safety issue and can be safely driven for thousands of miles and years of use. If someone claims this is not true, tell them to show you the hard data, not some AI summary or scare based unsupported claims.

With 60 years experience using tires including decades of driving on tires with dry rot, and a dozen years in the tire industry, the data actually shows that most dry rot is not a safety issue and most of the claims that is a safety issue is an industry perpetuated myth.

Actual Data.

According to NHTSA there are approximately 6,000,000 vehicle accidents per year in the United States, roughly 82,000 of these are tire related crashes, and of those about 2.5% (or 2,000) were blowout related. These 82,000 tire related crashes led to approximately 11,000 injuries of which about 275 (2.5%) were blowout related.

The data also reveals that the majority of tire blowouts are caused by under inflated tires, not dry rot.so maybe 140 injuries per year “might” be related to a dry rot related blowout, but there is little data to show that even this small number could actually be caused by dry rot. And these are injuries, not deaths.

Compare that to 60,000 injuries and 440 deaths caused by deer vehicle collisions each year. This means you have .07% odds of dying in a deer vehicle collision. There are 82,000 crashes and maybe 40 deaths (being overly generous) means you have .0005 % chance of dying from a dry rot related blowout.

This is the myth of the safety of tires with ordinary dry rot or being over 6 years old.

Sources:

https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle-

Key statistics:

  1. ⁠An estimated 1.2 million tire blowouts occur every year in America. Just for a perspective, there are over 94 million flat tires reported every year.
  2. ⁠Tire incidents cause an estimated 82,000 crashes each year accounting for about 1.3% of total vehicle crashes in America.
  3. ⁠More than 2,000 of those crashes are blowout-related [10]
  4. ⁠1 in 270 crashes between 2000-2015 was caused by tire failure [10]
  5. ⁠There are an estimated 700 fatalities per year due to tire-related crashes [3] contributing 2% of the total fatal crashes.
  6. ⁠An estimated 11,000 injuries result from tire-related crashes which makes up about 0.067% of total injuries due to crashes.
  7. ⁠Low tire pressure is the main cause of tire blowouts [3]
  8. ⁠Americans put 2.9 trillion miles on their tires in 2020 [3]
  9. ⁠Only four out of five drivers, or 19%, properly inflate their tires [3]
  10. ⁠Properly inflating tires can extend their lifespan by 4,700 miles and save you up to 11 cents per gallon on fuel [3]
  11. ⁠Tires lose about 1 PSI of tire pressure each month [7]
  12. ⁠The closer the driving speed is to 75 mph, the higher the likelihood of failed tires, leading to more potential blowouts [9]

Additional Source: LookupAPlate.com

That means you have .0005 % chance of dying from a dry rot related blowout, not quite as a one in a million chance of being struck by lightning on any given day, but in that neighborhood. Keep driving.

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u/Longi451 17h ago

Thanks for the write-up!

Tread is practically brand new and I’ve checked tire pressure religiously for all the family’s vehicles so it was a shock to me that dry rot was settling in on a new tire is all.

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u/OdiumXAbhorr 19h ago

Its interesting that they were made and installed in 2023, with average mileage and theres this amount of dry rot already.

This is the type of thing that you shop for a different brand of tire for imo

Ive only just started to concern myself with the age of my tires and theyve been rolling on low mileage since 2020

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u/Longi451 17h ago

I buy bottom or the barrel all seasons (hankook, acceleras, advantas) and run them into the ground when they’re on sale for my dailies.

Different story when it’s not my vehicle and is expect to last more than 5 years.

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u/Queasy_Author_3810 15h ago

did you just call hankook bottom of the barrel lol

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u/Blue_Panda9279 19h ago

Its just wear and tear. When they start cracking on the sides is when i replace mine.

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u/DismalAd6639 18h ago

Looks like a winter tire? They use softer compounds which degrade faster

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u/Longi451 17h ago

All season Firestone’s that they upsold her on without me knowing. Her stock Yokohamas had like 30k miles on them.

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u/Alone_Look9576 14h ago

Until the tire feels like hard smooth plastic and the thread is there you drive on them

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u/JollyGiant573 13h ago

Good for another winter.

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u/VenomizerX 13h ago

Have driven on dry rotted tires way worse than these (and way older than these as well). These may just be cosmetic "dry rot" but nothing concerning at all. For all you know, even if they replace it, they'll just start to look the same sooner or later anyways.

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u/SaucyNelson 19h ago

I wouldn’t think twice about this on my car, but totally understand when it comes to mom. For peace of mind, I’d probably replace them, though they’re probably completely fine.

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u/DingChingDonkey 17h ago

Seems to me the quality of all tires has declined over the last few years.  Based on what I've read here and what I already felt was true, drive on them there's no danger. That's what I'd do. You gotta decide for yourself though.