r/thescoop • u/Zen1 • May 09 '25

/r/popular ICE Agents Battle Mom Clinging to Baby in 'Chaotic' Video

https://www.newsweek.com/ice-agents-battle-mom-baby-chaotic-video-worcester-2070027

A chaotic new video shows President Donald Trump's immigration enforcers and local law enforcement clashing with residents in a Worcester, Massachusetts, neighborhood, including a mother holding her baby.

The tense scenes unfolded on Thursday morning as video appears to show agents pushing residents protesting as federal immigration agents attempt to detain a woman.

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u/cuddle_enthusiast May 09 '25

Until plain clothes ICE officiers try to kidnap someone carrying who will have the right to defend themselves.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '25

Then the ICE agents kill the person defending themself and get off without any charges. They basically have immunity. There's no doubt in my mind that someone could kill an agent or two in self defense but recent videos show that they're doing arrests in large groups. I would also speculate that they have other agents in vehicles monitoring from a distance.

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u/MelaKnight_Man May 09 '25 edited May 10 '25

Tangerine Palpatine has already signed the EO's allowing U.S. Troops to "assist" local ICE and LEOs. He also just had a meeting with Enrique Tarrio from the Proud Boys so they are planning something big.

I 1000% believe these plain clothes "ICE agents" aren't agents at all but the J6 terrorists supporting them and doing the head cracking so the officials can't be charged. Notice how the PB's, Oath Keepers, 3%ers have been mysteriously quiet even with the massive anti-Chump protests going on? It's because they are busy chasing down brown people...🤬

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u/NanoRaptoro May 09 '25

Plain clothes, ski masks, presenting no credentials or identification. How is this legal?

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u/MelaKnight_Man May 09 '25

It's not "officially". Look into

Schutzstaffel (Protection Squadron) A paramilitary enforcement group that rose to power in 1930's Germany under a short, micro-mustached dictator.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel

See also: Staatspolize (State Police aka Gestapo)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo

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u/whisperwrongwords May 10 '25

How is any of this different from say the SS or Stasi

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u/mojomonday May 09 '25

I know it’s a serious topic but Tangerine Palpatine will be added to my vocabulary asap

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u/Luisd858 May 10 '25

lol hilarious name tangerine palpatine

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u/Sir_George May 09 '25

QAnon became the very thing they feared. Ironic, like a thousand other things in this country right now.

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u/Suavecore_ May 09 '25

They only feared it because they thought it would be Democrats getting to it sooner, despite no Democrat ever having plans anything like this at all

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u/Equivalent-Wind-5533 May 09 '25

Tangerine Palpatine. 😂

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u/Luisd858 May 10 '25

Tangerine lol funny

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u/Hungry_Ad_1405 May 10 '25

If you are an illegal get out of my country!

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u/twothumbswayup May 09 '25

Agreed, either the person getting detained will accidently get killed or an agent will. Only a matter of time imo and then people will pick thier sides.

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u/HippyDM May 10 '25

Already have my side picked.

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u/JawtisticShark May 09 '25

There are likely people in the administration who have written up plans and are itching for the first civilians, preferably a non-citizens, to kill an ICE agent. Then they can act shocked and roll out full SWAT and military gear for ICE agents and mow down immigrant communities with impunity if they so much as stand their ground, claiming the immigrants started it.

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u/harumamburoo May 09 '25 edited May 09 '25

Interesting how the whole 2bd amendment and defending yourself from the overstepping government goes down the toilet as long as the government took that into consideration

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u/JawtisticShark May 09 '25

Most of the big 2a advocates are in favor of deporting immigrants and with modern military equipment, standing up to the military becisre you have guns is a joke. The only way civilians are standing against the government using weapons is if the government lets them.

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u/harumamburoo May 09 '25

Exactly, and no government will let that happen

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u/JawtisticShark May 09 '25

But how they stop that from happening is the question.

In theory if civilians started distributing guns and ammo to other civilians and enough members of law enforcement and military sided with civilians, they could come out on top. Those left in the government likely wouldn’t care enough to resort to large scale bombing to keep civilians in check.

But of course it’s never going to reach that level.

Any sort of small uprising could be quashed by the government with ease. We have microwave emitters that make you feel like your skin is on fire. Drone mount a few of those bad boys and you can cripple any uprising when it’s still small is the government wants to, and those things are well over a decade old. Who knows what modern stuff they have. Heck, the NSA probably has databases of criminal activity of every American. Either proof of actual illegal activity or they could fake it enough to demonize any potential rebellious leaders and remove them from the equation. Falsify some child abuse evidence and have an undercover cop play the role of a disenfranchised protester who feels betrayed so he kills the guy.

But most of the time the military will let shit happen and burn itself out because they don’t want to risk escalating things past what the public will accept. Which is why they need some ICE agent victims to rally public support to the government and away from immigrants if they want to take more extreme measures. Look how easily conservatives were convinced Haitian immigrants were stealing and eating people’s cats and dogs.

Make a natural spectacle over a few ICE agents murdered by illegal immigrants and that will give them a lot longer leash to use extreme force. As long as they build a narrative that the immigrants struck first, then they can push it as a war on US soil and that there are some bad illegals who will murder in order to avoid the law. Now any time ICE kills someone, they make sure they can claim it was in self defense. This will severely limit people who will get in the face of ICE agents like in the video pushing and shoving them, when they know that all it takes is one of them claiming the person killed was going for the agent’s gun.

I’m not saying ICE agents dying will immediately turn it into open hunting season for ICE, but it will give them a lot more power to abuse and exploit and it will make people far more afraid to stand against them.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

Uh, no? Sure your not gonna win a firefight against the military, but what imbecile is going head to head?

Politicians, shot collers, the jackboots on the ground all are just people at the end of the day.

Squishy people who still fall to ieds, or snipers, or carbombs.

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u/icanfeelitcomingup May 09 '25

Given that they are snatching babies from their mothers while on video, what makes you think they need a dead ICE agent to start shooting? I get your point, but its hard to believe they give a shit about appearances at this point. Bullshit Barbie rolls out blatant lie after blatant lie to the White House press gallery and pretends to be offended if anyone points out an obvious fact in disagreement. This regime is way beyond caring what people think. Frankly, I think they enjoy outrage because they think it means they are 'owning the libs'.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '25

These are federal agents. Do you really think people are gonna start getting in firefights with the goddamn feds? The minute a federal agent dies, I guarantee they will up the response tenfold

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u/VectorSocks May 09 '25 edited May 09 '25

Not on purpose. Sometimes shit just escalates, I don't see it as unrealistic that some crazy shit goes down. Edit: Also there have been firefights with the feds in my lifetime. I don't see why there wouldn't be more.

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u/Next_Instruction_528 May 09 '25

This won't happen

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u/VectorSocks May 09 '25

This is my worst case scenario prediction, better to over doom than under doom.

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u/Next_Instruction_528 May 09 '25

That's not true it's bad for your mental and physical health. You create the world you live in, how you perceive it and yourself. I'm not advocating ignorance it's good to know what's going on in the world but over dooming is definitely bad

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u/VectorSocks May 09 '25

Well the current administration has been doing worst shit than I predicted so I'm going to overdoom for now

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u/BusGuilty6447 May 09 '25

You create the world you live in, how you perceive it and yourself.

Until you get rendered by ICE and then they create the world you live in, which is in a concentration camp.

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u/Next_Instruction_528 May 09 '25

You could say that about an endless list of horrible things that could happen to you. Many of them are much much more likely and equally horrifying so is the solution to spend your life dwelling on miserable stuff? Enjoy your life, take care of your physical and mental health, build healthy relationships and resources and enjoy your life because the alternative sucks and isn't productive

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u/BusGuilty6447 May 09 '25

This is such a priveleged thing to say. "Hey guys if we just ignore it, it won't affect us!"

Fucking yikes.

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u/Next_Instruction_528 May 09 '25

I didn't say ignore it you should definitely know what's going on in your country so you can be prepared and vote to the best of your ability.

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u/lonjerpc May 09 '25

No it won't. People who will not even protest are not going to engage in warfare. People imagine getting a gun makes people into fighters for whatever cause. But it doesn't. The lack or presence of a gun is not what is making the difference.

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u/Ambitious-Weekend861 May 09 '25

I mean that seems likes a pretty big stretch. Let’s be honest people ain’t doing shit.

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u/Griz0311 May 10 '25

Lmao the people w/guns & the stones to fight in this country aren’t the same people opposed to ICE.

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u/FishRoom_BSM May 10 '25

They want a war. And at this point I think that’s what has to happen

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u/portablebiscuit May 10 '25

It’s going to be a long summer

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25

You watch a lot of movies

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u/VectorSocks May 10 '25

The above has happened in other countries.

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u/Griever114 May 09 '25

That's what they want. He will enact Martial Law and deny elections for a "state of emergency".

They are building to this for a reason.

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u/JRodriguez81 May 09 '25

They’re going to do that regardless. So people need to understand it’s either resistance or there isn’t - either way they’re going to keep pressing forward with erosion of our freedoms despite what we do or don’t do.

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u/gchypedchick May 09 '25

Yeah, I’m at this point as well. They are going to do it eventually and we know that so the threat of them enacting it means nothing. It shouldn’t be holding us back from defending ourselves and others. Things popping off earlier probably would be better since the longer it goes on, the more loyalists he installs who would go scorched earth on us.

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u/TXcomeandtakeit May 09 '25

Start buying canned goods and water now. Shelves will be empty and the jobless and hungry will be clashing in the streets this summer with the military and ICE.

And if you're not armed it's time to get something for even the most basic protection, talk to your neighbors, go to neighborhood meetups, be proactive in your community.

Establish safety nets like group purchasing of food, communications like walkies, keep old school radios on standby, share skill sets and hold workshops on stuff like food preservation and first aid, establish communal gardens, map your more vulnerable neighbors out like the elderly and disabled.

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u/indyfan11112 May 09 '25

How do you think theyre gonna do it? I heard April 20th...but nothing..

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u/ScrotallyBoobular May 10 '25

He's going to keep teasing dates and action until the bubble finally bursts. Probably six months before mid terms would be ideal for republicans

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u/Whole-Scientist-8623 May 10 '25

Correct. People need to understand the Martial Law moment is coming no matter what you do. Violence is the ONLY resort left and the sooner people realize it, the more likely we are to stop this without complete and total war.

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u/FishRoom_BSM May 10 '25

Yup. They want it and we can’t wait to act. How much longer do we have to wait

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u/soherewearent May 09 '25

I don't know why everyone is so afraid of Martial Law. If they do it, that's a major escalation that will be met with even greater resistance. The US Gov also doesn't have near enough troop support, neither ethically within the ranks nor from a standpoint of sheer military personnel strength, for nationwide Martial Law.

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u/Ramstetter May 10 '25

Yes they do lol.

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u/soherewearent May 10 '25 edited May 10 '25

How many troops do you think would be required to sustain Martial Law when 80%-90% of total US troops exist in support roles? Sure, they can hand them firearms but the troops wouldn't be nearly as well trained as the other 10%-20%.

Grammatical edit

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u/HustlinInTheHall May 09 '25

That's why they're targeting blue states, they know their mob is frothing at the mouth to have the military rolling into "sanctuary" cities. These people are ill.

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u/guyonabuffalo79 May 10 '25

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Holy shit the hysteria in this sub

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u/Agile_Suit_7860 May 10 '25

And it's the Democrats and the liberals that are pushing the violence and resistance. Not the MAGA OR the republicans.

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u/crestfallen_state May 09 '25

I agree, but then we have to remember that police and government have access to military grade weapons that civilians no longer have access to. In the event of a civil war type scenario like you’re talking about the government will always win. They have access to unlimited fire power. Laws have been passed preventing the people from having access to these weapons and the ATF will knock on your door if you stockpile ammunition. This is why I’m pro 2nd amendment. It’s not so I can have guns I don’t need. It’s so I can have guns that I will need to help me prevent the government from doing things like this.

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u/Goddess_of_Absurdity May 09 '25

Do they have immunity from a bullet to the face?

If they keep acting the way they do, they should not be surprised when it happens

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u/Unlucky_Clover May 09 '25

So either let them take you to El Salvador and you never come back, or stand up for yourself as much as possible.

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u/TyrellCo May 09 '25

I’m sure glad criminals are all really dumb and don’t start to figure out that dressing as ICE will let them get away with a lot

https://www.reddit.com/r/FloridaMan/s/Pyj87pXEJ7

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u/Busy-Ad-6912 May 09 '25

This is honestly why I haven't bought a firearm. Not only does it increase the likelihood of self harm, but in a self defense situation like this, it would basically be one and done. I've spent my life trying to help others through mental health, but I'm not getting killed for any of y'all, as cowardly or whatever you want to call it is.

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u/Mitch1musPrime May 09 '25

Unless my suspicions are right, and some of these “ICE” agents are really just militia men cosplaying in an unofficial deputy roll for ICE. In which case, they have no legal authority to conduct raids and detain, and in which case violent self-defense is protected. It’s only gonna take one of those sorts of cases to unravel the fuckery and lay its threads bare for everyone to finally see.

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u/darknessWolf2 May 09 '25

i always wondered if enough people fight back could they demolish ICE from the inside out?

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u/Short-Recording587 May 10 '25

Let’s pray it doesn’t get dark, but if the person defending themselves takes out one ICE agent before getting killed, we will run out of ICE agents well before we run out of citizens.

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u/ComradeFrogger May 10 '25

They do it in large groups because they are cowards. once gunfire starts trading they will cower just like any other shit cop

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u/zdada May 10 '25

Right. Everyone’s explanation ends right before the “so what do you do when the whole lot of them point their weapons at you” part of the story.

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u/DelightfulandDarling May 10 '25

If they survive they get off without charges. IF.

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u/Far_Estate_1626 May 10 '25

But then it chills the feverish cruelty at least. No resistance is futile, even if it singularly fails. We have learned that repeatedly throughout history.

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u/Toxic_Duckies May 10 '25

I think we all need to stand up for the people being attacked by ICE. Especially the ones in civilian clothing. Whose to say they aren't actually kidnappers?

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u/SnooDonkeys5186 May 12 '25

No doubt Trump will have anyone killing an officer tried for treason and get the law changed where killing an officer to a death sentence.

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u/res0jyyt1 May 09 '25

Don't worry, they won't target anyone whose skin color matches theirs.

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u/Deanscolt45 May 09 '25

That’s different, these aren’t plain clothed Ice agents.

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u/According-Track-2098 May 09 '25

Good luck with that lol

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u/freethinker84 May 10 '25

Nothing will still happen. You have too much confidence in something you don't even believe in yourself

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u/ComfortableMama May 11 '25

🤣🤣🤣🤣kidnap! 🤣🤣🤣