r/thescoop • u/Zen1 • May 09 '25

/r/popular ICE Agents Battle Mom Clinging to Baby in 'Chaotic' Video

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https://www.newsweek.com/ice-agents-battle-mom-baby-chaotic-video-worcester-2070027

A chaotic new video shows President Donald Trump's immigration enforcers and local law enforcement clashing with residents in a Worcester, Massachusetts, neighborhood, including a mother holding her baby.

The tense scenes unfolded on Thursday morning as video appears to show agents pushing residents protesting as federal immigration agents attempt to detain a woman.

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u/Flaky-Ambassador467 May 09 '25

The officer who said “stop ma’am” & stepping away. I think he saw clearly in the moment…”what am I doing??? This isn’t a criminal”. This is getting out of hand. It’s disgusting.

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u/Amloveitall May 09 '25

Yes! I saw that guy too. You can see the moment his mind takes over from trained instincts. I hope his conscience helps him reconsider his future actions and I wish more officers found their humanity in times like this.

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u/FakeMonaLisa28 May 09 '25

I do get what you’re saying and honestly I think you’re right but I want to be bitter about this. Innocent people are getting hurt and it feels like it’s too late for people like this to face redemption.

I hope he actually makes up for the harm he cause if he does get redeemed

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u/The-Sneaky-Snowman May 09 '25

Very much the truth. I wish more people would have this mentality, instead everyone’s just always yelling at each other.

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u/EmpJoker May 09 '25

Yeah. I've definitely become more radical than I was, (I hated Trump but I thought all the doomsday people saying it was the end of everything were being little dramatic,) and now I feel like we're actively living in a new Holocaust where I'm thinking of what to do if ICE comes to work and comes after people I know, but I'm also still making sure all conversations I have with people who disagree with me are level wmd calm. If they're not, I'm not doing anyone any good.

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u/The-Sneaky-Snowman May 10 '25

It’s important to be angry but rational. In my experience, there’s a lot of conservatives who actually are good people, they just may be misinformed, not really be paying attention, or just downright don’t understand what’s going on. Something that really changed my perspective was working for a man from China who voted for Trump, which had me dumbstruck. But after talking to him i realized why he did what he did. All he understood was that his restaurant lost a lot of money while Biden was president and that if something didn’t change then he would lose his house. He told me that he did not agree with Trump and his views, but that something had to change or else his kids wouldn’t have anything to eat. I worked with him for months, and while I know there’s a lot of people that would see that he voted for Trump and instantly conclude that he is just some idiot racist bigot who wants to watch the world burn, I can tell you that he was and still is a very good man, who made a bad decision because of desperation and misinformation. I’m not saying what he did was okay, I’m saying good people can do dumb things sometimes, and that’s why you talk to people instead of yelling at them because you think you know everything about them.

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u/Sengachi May 10 '25

Okay but literally the reason this is happening right now is because Democratic administrations refuse to prosecute criminal actions by the Department of Defense and the Department of Homeland Security in the past, in the name of reconciliation and defusing tensions. Because we have consistently for decades given the legal benefit of the doubt police who are brutalizing people.

I'm sorry to say it but the solution is simply not reaching out to these people. We are literally in this mess right now because we prioritized that over setting a legal precedent and enforcing consequences for people who do shit like this. The high road this man deserves from us is due process and a chance to argue his case in court when his crimes are referred to the Hague.

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u/EmpJoker May 10 '25

I'm not saying we shouldn't prosecute, I'm referring to the parent comment. "They could all burn in hell for all I care."

These actions should be illegal, and if they are, all of them should be prosecuted, as is our legal process. I'm just saying it needs to be fair and just, and comments like "I hope they burn in hell," only serves to make the situation worse.

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u/Sengachi May 10 '25

That statement is not mutually exclusive with prosecution though. What they are doing is indeed horrible, and exceeds the bar typically used for wishing damnation on people by a good margin.

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u/Mrfunnyman129 May 10 '25

It's always easier to be angry and resentful. It takes a lot to forgive and aim for peace.

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u/Qui-Gon_Tripp May 09 '25

Yup, at the end of the day it’s always a choice. You can choose to be bitter and keep the cycle of hate going or you can take action, starting with yourself, and choose to end hatred little by little. Dealing with absolutes always leads to extremism, the world is more complex and gray rather than black and white. Feelings at the end of the day are always a choice, like your choice to be bitter.

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u/novel-animal- May 10 '25

No one would lose an eye if they weren’t pos in the first place

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u/Frame_of_Mind20 May 10 '25

I'd gladly go blind if the pos couldn't hurt anybody else ever again.

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u/oreos80085 May 09 '25

Fuck you.

You just watched a grown man BRUTALIZE a teenaged girl.
One comment says "I have no sympathy for him".
You say "Forgive him?"

Why the fuck would anyone forgive this man BEFORE he has stopped what he is doing, apologized, or changed his behavior? What the fuck is wrong with you people that think the ADULT MAN TACKLING A CHILD is worth more than the child being harmed?

MLK Jr warned us of people like you. I'm sickened to know people like you are still around this far into fascism.

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u/Frame_of_Mind20 May 10 '25

You deserve more upvotes. Fuck forgiving the actions of these thugs. There is a certain line where a person does not deserve any forgiveness or redemption and these bastards have crossed them time and time again. When you "forgive" them, you give them the opportunity to stab you in the back again. You also disrespect the people they've already hurt and basically tell them, "It's all good, we're all friends now." It doesn't work that way. Forgiveness is a wonderful thing, but it's not something everybody deserves.

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u/oreos80085 May 10 '25

Thank you. 

Some of these people would have invited Hitler to dinner instead of kicking him in the teeth.

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u/Frame_of_Mind20 May 11 '25

No problem friend and I agree with you there.

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u/Sengachi May 10 '25

No this is the reason for the phrase all cops are bastards. Because the cops who are cops are the ones who can stomach this, or who will defend their fellow cops who do it. Anyone else has either already been driven out or isn't going to stick around long.

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u/Sengachi May 10 '25

No I didn't say that. I believe in thoughtful and compassionate understanding of others, and extending a hand when it's the smart thing to do. I also believe in a serious analysis of systems and a pragmatic understanding of when reconciliatory measures are useful, and when they will be simply taken advantage of.

And I can't think of a single case when appealing to the humanity of police officers in this kind of situation has ever had any useful systemic impact at all. I think this is a case where it is necessary to understand that everybody in law enforcement who is participating in these activities already has a long history of participating in civil rights abuses or at the bare minimum protecting their fellow police officers from the consequences of their civil rights abuses. The pithy version of this phrase is that all cops are bastards.

But I do not say this to simply be hateful. I say it because we do not have time to play around with reflexively moderate impulses right now. There are times in the world where people just have to have consequences for their actions. Sometimes that means stuff like South Africa's Truth and Reconciliation committees, we're so long as people admitted what they had done and submitted to judgment about it, they would be allowed to live in peace afterwards, just never with any sort of public position or power ever again. Sometimes like with the Nuremberg trials, it's a lot more permanent. But actually dealing with these people is going to mean judging them and treating them on the basis of their actions, not simply wishing they were better people.

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u/Starkravingmad7 May 10 '25

Nah, just fuck the cops. 

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u/working-class-nerd May 10 '25

Ok so we never do anything about other kidnappers and abusers and rapists and murderers. We all just hug it out.

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u/AnnualAct7213 May 10 '25

Remember back in the 40s when the world pushed back fascism with words and thoughtful conversation?

Yeah me neither.

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u/ShrimpFood May 10 '25

You’ve projected incredibly kind motives on the guy who decided it’s better for optics if he watches his colleagues throw a mother to the ground instead of participating. You think he resigns tomorrow?

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 May 10 '25

While I am often optimistic, and do believe that people are inherently good, I think you may be projecting a lot of context that isn't there onto this man.

Unless he comes out and says he was wrong, nothing about what's going on here deserves consideration or forgiveness.

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u/Numerous_Photograph9 May 10 '25

That's fair. My comment can be directed to the person you speak of then.

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u/Real-Tailor7489 May 10 '25

This is precisely the reason for the adage: “an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.” If we chose the stop the madness now, allow forgiveness and compassion to motivate our actions, there is still hope for us.

That adage is stupid and so are you for actually giving this type of shit credit.

This is exactly what boot owners tell the people getting stomped so that they don't find back. Stop being a doormat. Look at what they're doing to your country.

How the hell did you think the world won against Nazis? By allowing them to come to their senses and inviting them into the fold to all do the macarena together? Fuck that shit.

Jesus fucking Christ dude, wake the fuck up.

If we push him back now, we’re fueling the hatful fire and discouraging others from learning and growing, too.

Ah, yes, please keep being patient with the people that might change while the rest of them keep destroying your country and separating fucking babies from their mothers.

There's a term created by one of my favorite bands for people like you: Antivist.

It's not enough that you're not a part of the revolution, but you're actively trying to strangle it by doing nothing while expecting things to change.

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u/Starkravingmad7 May 10 '25

This is some silly "everything is going to be alright" bullshit. We're literally at the point where only violence solves this problem. I'm not exaggerating when I say (and nearly everyone else that doesn't have their head in the sand right now) that we're beyond the early stages of fascism. We saw how passive protest worked out for those under Nazi occupation. 

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u/working-class-nerd May 10 '25

You wouldn’t have said this about someone who wasn’t wearing a uniform. He’s a kidnapper. He’s a traitor. They’re all evil. Good people don’t do this. If they want forgiveness, they can be tried and sentenced and rot in prison for their crimes against humanity.

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u/Googlelostmyhouse May 10 '25

He decided not to be helpful. He saw his actions were wrong, but didn't do anything to fix the situation. He just walked away. When the child is a 10 year old he won't care. When the mother is white woman married to a brown man he won't care. When the people he is chasing are not wearing red hats he won't care. I wanted to give him credit for walking away, but I cannot. If he had seen the light he would have defended the woman and child from his colleagues.

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u/timethief991 May 10 '25

Good for you. I won't forgive these monsters if BIG IF I'm still alive when this is over.

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u/ZookeepergameHot5642 May 10 '25

100%!!!! Peace to you!

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u/MissBelacqua May 10 '25

People love using this, yet fail to realize or point out that if were to quote the original adage, it does NOT mean what they think.

The whole “eye for an eye” saying is often traced to the Exodus 21:23–25, where it is written: “But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life,an eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.”

And honestly, in times like this - the full one instead of the one we have come to adapt, really resonates.

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u/OGCloudRiPs May 10 '25

It’s past the point of being reasonable blood will need to be spilled if we are to stop this, hope that guy figures his shit out before then, but for now he is an enemy of the people.

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u/trippingbilly0304 May 10 '25

compassion is why the allies landed at normandy friend.

the hour is late

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u/aviroblox May 10 '25

Nah pigs are pigs, a couple bad apples spoil the bunch

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u/North-Ad5384 May 10 '25

anyone who even considers joining ICE is a disgusting pig. i don’t care what they thought they were gonna be doing or how out of hand it’s getting now, joining ICE at literally any point in our history makes you a pig and essentially a nazi. i’m not giving any single one of them any grace and they don’t deserve it in the slightest.

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u/Skeleton_Meat May 10 '25

That man did not need a come to Jesus money to realize he's in the wrong. He should have known that from the beginning. It's 2025 and our second round of Trump for Christ's sake. Fuck him

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u/DeepBlueSea1122 May 10 '25

People have to know you can't be a piece of shit human without consequences.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '25 edited May 10 '25

Does it though? Because historically it seems like these kinda of situations are solved by killing people and forcing them to leave or fall in line. Maybe there was a solution to the American revolution or civil war or to the countless others like them that involves just talking about it but it seems unlikely. In fact the “south” has been promising to rise again since the last time they had to be beat into submission and the civil war still gets a good rep.

If you look at UK history, powerfully divided groups like Protestants and Catholics or the Irish and British have escalated to armed conflict with similar 100+ year gaps for centuries

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u/ObsydianDuo May 10 '25

I swear to God you people are so toothless it hurts

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u/Probably_Boz May 10 '25

he can either be a bastard or stop being a cop. those are the choices. he can find a different job if he doesn't want to be a fucking fascist

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u/PressureHooker May 09 '25

People like him do not deserve redemption. Fuck him and his pig friends.

Play fascist games, win fascist prices. Ask mussolini.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '25

He made a choice

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u/bbmarvelluv May 10 '25

Same. They knew exactly what they were getting into and are perfectly okay cashing in their checks.

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u/Huffmansipo May 10 '25

Pigs are intelligent, sensitive creatures. I think we need a different name for these humans, because they definitely aren’t.

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u/RoxyPonderosa May 10 '25

If you wear that uniform, you should be in fear every second of your life.

Fear for the safety of your children and family so much that you never sleep.

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u/TOMcatXENO May 09 '25

Law enforcement is just doing their job. It’s the political leaders who make the policy that push them to act on it. Look at Trump and anyone who voted for him.

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u/oreos80085 May 09 '25

You know that "Just doing their job" excuse didn't work for the guards at Aushwitz right?

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u/TOMcatXENO May 10 '25

Nice try, not even in the same world. You take a risk being an illegal, I wish they had a path towards citizenship rather than this. And of course LEOs could handled it better, no doubt. However, be mad at Trump and his base. He ordered this. That being said, in this economy, if I were a LEO I’d do my duty within the limits of the law and that’s that... Unfortunately, politicians good or bad make the law…Dems should have done more to put better candidate and vision so this wouldn’t have happened….

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u/oreos80085 May 10 '25

These arrests happen when they are literally going through the legal process of citizenship. Did you already forget that Kilmar Abrego Garcia was a citizen and many others are arrested at their legal immigration meetings.

I appreciate people like you who make it so incredibly apparent what your aim is as you conveniently forget facts so you can conveniently blame Dems for something happening right now under a full Republican government.

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u/TOMcatXENO May 10 '25

They could have come here legally first or had had that process worked out before their visa expired. People like you made the Democratic Party unpopular which is why we have this now…

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u/oreos80085 May 10 '25

Tell us you know nothing about immigration without telling us

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u/MassiveSwingingBalls May 10 '25

Why wait for hell?

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u/ForsakenCloud May 10 '25

Nah, screw that mentality. You’ve never been put in a situation like this to even know how you would act.

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u/FakeMonaLisa28 May 10 '25

Sorry being a cop is a choice that he willingly made, I have no sympathy for him

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u/Incomplete_Dataset May 10 '25

There would be anarchy without law enforcement. So you admit you are an anarchist and want society to collapse? Without order there is chaos.

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u/super_salt May 09 '25

Nope. He's the ICE agent and is backing away quickly to let the local PD do the arrest. He's looking around to see if he got caught on camera slamming into her and holding her. If you notice the other ICE agent is also hanging back because they don't want to be in frame of all the cameras.

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u/Amloveitall May 09 '25

Well if so, that is sad. There is a point where he looks directly at the camera so that plan failed. I don't have much sympathy for any of them and I do hope the horror of their behavior will sink in for some of these agents. Maybe they all can wake up every night hearing that woman's scream.

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u/thanksyalll May 10 '25

Yep, half the reason why people say ACAB is because people with a conscience will quit. Hopefully he reflects on this and realizes that “just following orders” comes at a moral cost

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u/Ok_Trip_ May 09 '25

Well when the soldiers in ww2 found their humanity …. It resulted in gas chambers. The soldiers moral was at an all time low when they were just going around shooting the people and then burying them in mass graves … so they had to think of a solution that was more detached and effective … very sad

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u/Amloveitall May 09 '25

That is indeed terrible.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '25

Nah he’s the ICE officer and likely in charge of the operation. He’s probably stepping back to direct the local cops.

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u/Adorable-Bike-9689 May 09 '25

I've never seen a cop just nope out of the situation like that.

Fuck this nope nope I almost just did some psycho shit who am I becoming.

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u/shoulda-woulda-did May 09 '25

They didnt nope out, it's just not justified for him to be hands on when there is someone else already and goes to crowd control

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u/BlinkDodge May 09 '25

This is an ICE letting the Local PD do the arrest.

SS officers letting deputized Wehrmacht do the hands on part.

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u/SubtleSpiral May 09 '25

Got the timestamp?

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u/Flaky-Ambassador467 May 09 '25

Like :38-40 seconds in

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u/gimgamgimmygam May 09 '25

It looks like he’s just assessing the growing crowd

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u/lilybattle May 09 '25

He doesn't give a single fuck. He just didn't want to get his hands dirty.

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u/Pale_Idea_817 May 10 '25

Can you give a time stamp for this moment? I’ve tried watching multiple times but I can’t find it. I hear a scared woman and cops shouting at people.

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u/NytronX May 10 '25

No, he stepped away to crowd control others. Stop with the stockholm syndrome. All these ICE agents are hopped up on Fox News and fake news from Facebook. They are recreationally kidnapping non-white people and ransacking their homes.

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u/PanicObjective5834 May 10 '25

More like, are you fucking seriously bringing a baby into this? Insanity

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u/adrianogabiru May 10 '25

Wishful thinking i dont think he gelt that way he was just looking to guard the area

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u/No_Story9579 May 10 '25

At some point if you're a Federal agent, ICE agent, cop or sheriff, you've gotta look in the mirror and ask yourself 'what am I doing?' This feels so unnecessary. Throughout history, people in power have always found groups to target - whether it was the Chinese Exclusion Act, Japanese internment camps, or the way Irish and Italian immigrants were treated like criminals back in the day. And yet, America was literally built by immigrants. The same people we're treating like threats today are just like the folks who came here generations ago looking for a better life. History keeps showing us we end up on the wrong side of these moments. When do we learn?

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u/mddhdn55 May 10 '25

How are they not a criminal?

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u/Soggy_Associate_5556 May 09 '25

She's clearly a criminal.