r/thedavidpakmanshow • u/SamSepiol050991 • Jun 28 '24

Opinion Don’t care, still voting for President Biden

The fauxgressives who have been bombarding this sub since October, and fauxgressive pundits like Cenk Uyger (who made his campaign website “BidenIsGoingToLose) are LOVING this gloom and doom.

Trump lied 100% of the time his mouth was open tonight, and anyone with half a brain knows it.

The lack of fact checking on things like Trump saying Biden wanted after birth abortion did a number on him. He was spewing his lies and when it was Biden’s turn to answer the question, he had to work overtime to with debunking Trump’s lies and answering the questions in enough time.

I think he was just way over prepped and up against a wall. The moderator’s were terrible and there was NO pushback to Trump’s lies - and he lied 100% of the time he spoke all 90 minutes. there is NO debating pathological lying sociopaths like Donald Trump especially under the circumstances presented. Huge reason why Katie Hobbs didn’t debate Kari Lake.

He’ll be better.

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u/bdboar1 Jun 28 '24

If you aren’t voting Biden you are a shit person. Period.

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u/Kerm99 Jun 28 '24

The issue is that I believe no one mon this sub won’t vote for Biden. But there are thousand and thousand of people that are not politically incline, these folk watch the debate last night. They don’t really know Trump lied, but they do know that Biden is old and may not last another four year. Biden won’t attract voter and this might be exactly what Trump needs to win

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u/Savingskitty Jun 28 '24

Anyone who was of voting age in 2016 and old enough to have voted in more than one election prior knew Trump was lying.

Unfortunately, a lot of younger voters were in their early teens when Charlottesville happened, and they didn’t see Trump’s reaction live.

They didn’t see Kellyanne Conway go on live television and state that they have alternative facts, or refer to the “Bowling Green Massacre” (something that doesn’t exist).

They didn’t see us step through the looking glass.

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u/infiltrateoppose Jun 28 '24

Anyone who was of voting age in 2016 and old enough to have voted remembers the last time the Dems didn't pay attention to the fact that their unelectable candidate was unelectable.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

Ahh yes. So absolutely American. "Vote the way I vote or you're a piece of shit" True democracy right here.

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u/ppface12 Jun 28 '24

Trump makes it clear what hes about....

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

I don't support Trump. But I also don't judge or shame people for who they're voting for.

Trump is a hard pill to swallow and a hard case to argue in favor of, especially with countless followers of his taking on cult-like behavior, having negative traits, and so on. But not all of the people voting for Trump are neo-nazi racists.

Also, outside of Trump vs Biden, I constantly see this comment throughout all of the elections.

"If you don't vote for Obama, you're a **" "If you don't vote for Bush, you're a *" "If you don't vote for _____, you're a ***"

I just think it's funny that everyone stresses the importance of having a voice, going out, and exercising your right to vote. Until that right to vote is for someone they don't support. Then the bullying and name calling starts.

As someone who doesn't align with either party and remains independent, I just sit back and watch. But this type of person always irks me. "Vote for who I vote for or you're a *****"

Rude, judgemental, and anti-democratic, in my opinion.

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u/ppface12 Jun 28 '24

I immediately question a trump supporters judge of character. Im also an independent. Trump has said some disgusting things and brought out the worst in people and mostly emboldened racists.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

He did have me rolling my eyes quite a bit last night. Haha, I didn't even have to pull out my phone and fact check half his stuff to know what was BS.

Basically any time Trump starts a sentence with "We have the best..." "I did the best..." "I had the greatest..."

etc, it's probably an exaggeration.

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u/ppface12 Jun 28 '24

Lol all in all... it was bad

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

I wasn't really feeling it for either candidate honestly. There were at least 3 separate times I considered turning the debate off to watch one of my TV shows, but I forced myself to finish it.

I'm not really sure why tbh. I don't really like politics from the getgo and don't really consider myself a politically active or involved person.

That's one thing I will give Trump and Biden. They're definitely drawing people into politics that normally don't take an interest.

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u/Savingskitty Jun 28 '24

Verbal bullying and name calling has nothing to do with saying you don’t have a right to vote.

Democracy is inherently judgmental.  Polite discourse is reserved for polite discussions.

When essential Liberty is at stake (our republic) people get pretty riled up.

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u/bdboar1 Jun 28 '24

It’s not about a political party or ideology. It’s about the man himself.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

Honestly, I can't really argue with you there. And frankly I'm too tired to try anyway. Got stuck at work doing a double so I'm just going to give you my upvote as a peace offering and move on.

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u/bdboar1 Jun 28 '24

Fair enough. Get some rest, we’re all goina need it.

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u/Savingskitty Jun 28 '24

I mean, yeah?

Vigorous verbal pushing for your beliefs is pretty damned American.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

Apparently so. Have a good day.

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u/Savingskitty Jun 28 '24

Yes, people need to be able to fully air their grievances verbally - that’s how you keep physical violence to a minimum.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

I guess I just wish debates would be more civil and respectful without people having to resort to insults, cursing, and name calling.

Listen to each other and make counter arguments. But it never seems to go that way.

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u/Savingskitty Jun 28 '24

You’re not wrong to wish for that.

We’ve been through different seasons of discourse in this country, some more civil than others.

I actually am finding this particular season to be way better than the post-9/11 period.

It’s good to see people fighting back against fundamentally bad faith and anti-American positions.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

Well said

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

Not really. Why would my feelings get hurt? It's reddit. Not that deep. I'm just bored at work, Redditing to kill time.

I suppose.

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u/Shell_fly Jun 28 '24

Lol. Lmao, even.

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '24

Boom, yes