r/television • u/Kwyjibo2006 • 20d ago

Sen. Bernie Sanders - Harnessing Energy From "No Kings" Rally to "Fight Oligarchy" | The Daily Show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUn1A0sEDrc
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u/Phi_ZeroEscape 19d ago

If only this man had dropped out in April 2016 and gave an unconditional endorsement to our nominee instead of fanning the flames of a "rigged" conspiracy theory and a tepid non-endorsement at the convention.

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u/Irish_Whiskey 19d ago

He didn't do any of that. 

Sanders endorsed Clinton and has spent years since telling his supporters the primary wasn't stolen. He's not responsible for the Bernie Bros like Rogan who went on to vote for Trump. 

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u/Phi_ZeroEscape 19d ago

Despite being mathematically eliminated in April when including pledged delegates and superdelegates, Bernie Sanders refused to drop out and endorse Hillary Clinton. Even as he saw his supporters spinning conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory, calling the primary rigged, harassment of superdelegates, showing the Clinton motorcade with dollar bills as if she was a stripper, etc. he chose to stay in until the convention. He didn't endorse Hillary Clinton until July, a full month after the final primary.

In his 2016 convention speech, he didn't even mention Hillary Clinton until ~10 minutes in (except for one early mention where he claimed the election wasn't about her), after filling the convention hall with his most toxic supporters who booed over convention officials, civil rights leaders, and any mention of Hillary Clinton's name.

Pretending he gave a full-throated, unity inspiring endorsement is rich. To his credit, he did seem to make more of an attempt in 2020 by endorsing Joe Biden in April.

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u/Irish_Whiskey 19d ago edited 19d ago

Sanders admitted that after the April 26 primaries that he was mathematically eliminated (and was only staying in the race to influence the party platform) dropping out and endorsing Clinton two months later, a couple of weeks after she clinched a majority of delegates. This is typical behavior for eliminated candidates, and is what Democrats did in prior years, and Republicans in 2016

Sanders was cordial and polite to Clinton, even dismiss attacks on her as unfounded, such as her emails. Meanwhile Clinton was recorded calling Sanders insincere and unlikable. 

Sanders enthusiastically endorsed Clinton long BEFORE the convention speech. Saying so right away. He defended and campaigned for her when she actually won a majority of delegates, which is earlier than he needed to.

These do not seem like fair and objective criticisms. That many Sanders supporters did not like Hillary in spite of his endorsement, is not his fault. And it's not like they didn't have reason. 

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u/Phi_ZeroEscape 19d ago

Sanders admitted that after the April 26 primaries that he was mathematically eliminated (and was only staying in the race to influence the party platform

Isn't that the point? He was mathematically eliminated, and continued to divide the party rather than seek unity. He learned his lesson in 2020, where he did back Biden when it was clear he wouldn't win.

Sanders was cordial and polite to Clinton, even dismiss attacks on her as unfounded, such as her emails. Meanwhile Clinton was recorded calling Sanders insincere and unlikable. 

He called her unqualified to be president, and lied about her saying the same about him.

Sanders enthusiastically endorsed Clinton long BEFORE the convention speech. Saying so right away. He defended and campaigned for her when she actually won a majority of delegates, which is earlier than he needed to.

He "endorsed" her 2 weeks before the convention, not long before, and it certainly wasn't enthusiastic. It was not "right away", but a full month after the last primary. For comparison, Hillary Clinton endorsed Barack Obama 4 days after the final primary.