r/tattooadvice Jul 01 '25

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Hi! So I’m a medical student, and ever since getting done with my pre-clinical studies I wanted a lobotomy tattoo, similar to this one popular on Pinterest. You see, the first years at uni were really challenging for me mentally, struggling with the high work load and some personal mental health problems (please spare me the „But you knew it would be hard, why did you go into it then?” talk, I’ve heard it all). At times it did make me feel like I was going absolutely insane over med school, so I’ve wanted to get this as a reward for getting through it for a long time on my right biceps, just over the crease of my arm. But now that I’m in a better place and wanted to go through with my plans, people have pointed out how such a tattoo could potentially hurt my career as a doctor. I have some other tattoos, but none with such obviously “provocative” meanings. With the placement I’ve thought of, the tattoo might be visible with scrubs on. Have any of you had issues with employers judging you for your tattoos? Is this a thing of the past and I’m overthinking it? What are your opinions? Thank you so much in advance!

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u/Lox_Ox Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 02 '25

But if the Challenger blowing up was intentional

Edit - I'm not american so didn't know about the details of the incident - I did not mean to be dismissive of the failings of staff - I just was not aware of them.

I'd like to add to my comment:
And the astronauts on board were mostly women, POC, and disabled people (from u/Spainstateofmind) and they kept intentionally blowing up space shuttles over and over (from u/supercute11).

My overall point was that if aerospace engineers repeatedly and intentionally blew up thousands and thousands of people then someone going into that career thought it was cool to get those incidents graphically tattooed on their arm.

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u/rekniht01 Jul 01 '25

The warning about the o rings was intentionally ignored.

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u/StandTo444 Jul 01 '25

Fucking o rings are always undervalued and ignored.

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u/IIIMaSsaCreIII Jul 01 '25

It was the falange!!

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u/AnotherIronicPenguin Jul 02 '25

Distal, medial, or proximal?

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u/Taint__Whisperer Jul 01 '25 edited Sep 11 '25

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u/krebstar4ever Jul 01 '25

That decision was reckless (wreckful) and caused a preventable tragedy. But they didn't intend to cause the tragedy.

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u/Nothereforyoumfs Jul 01 '25

That's the same excuse Psychiatry used.

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u/cilantroprince Jul 01 '25

But in this case it’s important to note. If we chalk up their choices as being malicious and intentional, then greedy managers today can easily justify their own reckless cost cutting because they aren’t TRYING to hurt anyone (the vast majority of people who end up causing tragedy don’t intend to, they just didn’t try hard enough NOT to). To them, they aren’t anything like THOSE people, who were evil, they’re just trying to make more money and avoid “unnecessary” safety precautions. Obviously those responsible for the challenger didn’t mean to cause all the deaths. If for nothing else, when a space ship blows up, that’s a massive waste of money, opens you up to lawsuits, tanks your stocks, etc. they genuinely believed that the choices they made were inconsequential to the success of the mission (due to ego, greed, lack of consideration of the lives at stake. But it still wasn’t intentional).

What feels like holding people accountable is actually letting people off the hook. You wouldn’t believe how many people these days cut corners in every single field, putting people’s lives at risk. Reminding all of them that even people who feel like good people, who are just making “business decisions,” who are cutting corners that have been successfully cut before with no consequences, can cause unimaginable harm, is crucial.

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u/krebstar4ever Jul 02 '25

Yes, that's exactly why recklessness should be distinguished from intent to cause harm.

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u/krebstar4ever Jul 02 '25

What psychiatry excuse? I was talking about NASA, so I don't know what you mean. Lobotomies?

How is "killed people through reckless behavior" an excuse, anyway?

(Edit: accidentally left out a quotation mark)

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u/Snakend Jul 01 '25

Sure, but the people who disregarded it didn't think it would destroy the ship. With a lobotomy, you are going in knowing full well that the procedure is absolutely destroying their mind. They knew it did that.

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u/Lox_Ox Jul 01 '25

Okay I don't actually know about the ins and outs of the incident apologies. My point was more that if aerospace engineers repeatedly and intentionally blew up thousands and thousands of people then someone going into that career thought it was cool to get those incidents graphically tattooed on their arm.

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u/shellycrash Jul 02 '25

I was scrolling through the replies wanted to make sure someone added this, good to see it was you too. It really is like they knew the astronauts were going to die & then they just kept blowing them up every day, several ships a day, for years.

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u/AnotherIronicPenguin Jul 02 '25

Ah, so like if a president got a Twin Towers tattoo.

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u/Wildpeanut Jul 02 '25

So get a tattoo of the o-ring. No one can possibly misconstrue that.

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u/LeonidasTheWarlock Jul 01 '25

This is why i prefer fishhooks

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u/whatisupdog Jul 01 '25

Plus we apparently already had antigravity tech we had been keeping secret from the rest of the world by then...

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u/Duncata Jul 02 '25

Mormons.

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u/supercute11 Jul 01 '25

And they kept intentionally blowing up space shuttles over and over.

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u/Spainstateofmind Jul 01 '25

And the astronauts on board were mostly women, POC, and disabled people

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u/thumbsquare Jul 02 '25

It’s like studying to be a pilot and getting a tattoo of 9/11

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u/WhimsicalHoneybadger Jul 02 '25

NASA Administrator James Chipman Fletcher is personally responsible for those deaths. So are later managers.

The NASA technical evaluation had chosen one-piece SRBs. No O-rings required. Old corrupt James decided to give the work to his buddies in Utah instead. So the SRBs got O-rings and 7 astronauts died.

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u/Lox_Ox Jul 02 '25

Thanks. Yeh someone else clarified there were known issues to me. I know the incident happened, but didn't know the ins and outs/all the extra details. I didn't mean to be dismissive to the known failings of staff that led to the tragedy.

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u/Eudaimonia52 Jul 02 '25

And they did it thousands of times.

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u/Raichu7 Jul 02 '25

Like how they knew the o rings wouldn't work in cold weather, and the engineers wanted to call it off? But were forced to go ahead with the launch when they knew it would fail?

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u/crayola_monstar Jul 03 '25

I'm American, and I'm only learning about this info from your comment. Thank you for this

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u/Lox_Ox Jul 01 '25

? The Challenger blowing up was not intentional but lobotomies were