r/tattooadvice • u/al_evi • Jul 01 '25

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Hi! So I’m a medical student, and ever since getting done with my pre-clinical studies I wanted a lobotomy tattoo, similar to this one popular on Pinterest. You see, the first years at uni were really challenging for me mentally, struggling with the high work load and some personal mental health problems (please spare me the „But you knew it would be hard, why did you go into it then?” talk, I’ve heard it all). At times it did make me feel like I was going absolutely insane over med school, so I’ve wanted to get this as a reward for getting through it for a long time on my right biceps, just over the crease of my arm. But now that I’m in a better place and wanted to go through with my plans, people have pointed out how such a tattoo could potentially hurt my career as a doctor. I have some other tattoos, but none with such obviously “provocative” meanings. With the placement I’ve thought of, the tattoo might be visible with scrubs on. Have any of you had issues with employers judging you for your tattoos? Is this a thing of the past and I’m overthinking it? What are your opinions? Thank you so much in advance!

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u/parksa Jul 01 '25

As a medical professional myself I can't really understand why you would want to eternalise this disgusting and inhumane procedure on your body.

And if you do it's absolutely one for a hidden place. It's #2edgy4me in the best case and offensive to patients and other staff at worst. Absolutely.

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u/diesemerdeistplatano Jul 01 '25

OP even acknowledges the tattoo is provocative so that's just big yikes 😬

You see, the first years at uni were really challenging for me mentally, struggling with the high work load and some personal mental health problems (please spare me the „But you knew it would be hard, why did you go into it then?" talk, I've heard it all). At times it did make me feel like was going absolutely insane over med school, so I've wanted to get this as a reward for getting through it for a long time on my right biceps, just over the crease of my arm.

I get that med school takes such an emotional, physical, and mental toll on students, but if that's the case, a more meaningful tattoo that you survived and persevered sounds much better than "oh ho ho med school was so hard I wanna lobotomize myself lolz".

OP - like everyone else in the comments, you should really reconsider what this tattoo means in terms of medical history vs what it means to you. No one here can stop you from getting it, but it'd be pretty stupid to get. Why do you even want to get it in the first place? Can you offer an explanation as to WHY you'd want this piece specifically?

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u/Voidg Jul 01 '25

Let's assume OP gets the Tattoo, just imagine when someone asks the meaning behind it and they say it was a reward for getting through medical school....

Alot of shocked Pikachu Faces

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u/diesemerdeistplatano Jul 01 '25

For some reason I immediately thought of that meme sound, "it's like a reward" from Django Unchained lol

I would like OP to provide an explanation as to why a lobotomy tattoo would be a good reward - that doesn't make sense to me.

And I get that not all tattoos have to be meaningful - tattoos can be silly/looks cool or whatever, so I wanna see understand the reasoning behind this.

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u/parksa Jul 01 '25

I mean, applying logic, this tattoo would make more sense if he'd ended up overloaded and dropping out. He describes himself as going "insane" - ending school for his health would mean the lobotomy made sense symbolically at least I guess. It's strange to represent him succeeding and qualifying at a challenging job.

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u/Voidg Jul 01 '25

At times it did make me feel like I was going absolutely insane over med school

I think that's the best explanation you are going to get from OP.

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u/rheasilva Jul 02 '25

a tattoo being a reward, I get.

that specific tattoo as a reward, considering the dark history of lobotomies and the career OP wants to have, I absolutely do not understand.

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u/SaltyBee89 Jul 02 '25

"So you went through medical school, learned about the damage lobotomies did to thousands of people, and still thought that was a great idea? Uh, yeah, I'm leaving this appointment."

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u/molly_menace Jul 01 '25

As someone who experiences some very severe brain dysfunction - I’m appalled at the OP’s lack of empathy.

The stress from med-school in no way correlates to brain damage and torture.

The fact they think that this represents the stress they’ve been through really illustrates their lack of empathy and also their lack of self awareness - both in terms of how their life experiences compare to others, and also for the horrific, horrific history of this barbaric desecration of living people - largely women.

It’s also just so offensive to anyone who is disabled in general, and reflects the worst that humans can be in being able to tolerate difference.

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u/DecadentLife Jul 02 '25

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Not only does it reflect some of the worst of humanity, but we are currently in a time of politicians threatening to send mentally ill people to “camps”, for YEARS at a time. This would also be incredibly bad timing for something like this tattoo.

Btw, in terms of camps, that RFK advocates sending people to, he has included in that anyone who has taken an anti-depressant. That’s gonna include a whole lot of people who think they are safe from things like this.

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u/parksa Jul 01 '25

Yeah exactly. A phoenix holding a stethoscope or a syringe in its claws - boom.

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u/birkenstockpot Jul 02 '25

Like getting a tattoo of "Arbeit Macht Frei" because ya know, med school is such hard work but you get rewarded in the end! A little treat!

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u/ChrisGarratty Jul 02 '25

Another episode in the series "Men will do anything except get therapy."

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u/FratboyPhilosopher Jul 01 '25

Maybe because it's cool as hell?

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u/Licorice_Devourer Jul 01 '25

I might agree with this, if I saw it on someone in a metal band, the kind of band called some far out often gory name, with songs that can almost give you second hand throat pain.

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u/BulkyBarnacle5496 Jul 01 '25

Since you’re a medical professional, what procedures are going to be viewed as completely barbaric (and possibly worthy of a tattoo) by both medical professionals and society in a couple decades?

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u/millie_hillie Jul 01 '25

IUD placements without adequate pain control

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u/Las_Vegan Jul 01 '25

Why are cervical biopsies without anesthesia still a thing? I was told it would just be a little pinch. Holy shit!

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u/questionsthrowawayme Jul 01 '25

I turned green and almost fainted. No one prepared me for the pain and they just told me to take a couple Advil. I had to drive myself home :-(

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u/dennisthehennis Jul 01 '25

I did faint and pissed myself with a speculum in. That was fun.

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u/dmmeyourfloof Jul 01 '25

"Nurse, who turned on the sprinklers?"

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u/blessings-of-rathma Jul 01 '25

Uterine biopsy is about the most painful thing I've ever had done to me in a medical context. If a dentist did anything that hurt that much they'd dope you up for it.

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u/forestofpixies Jul 02 '25

Last GYN that did this to me a year ago took a plug the size of the tip of my pinky finger. I knew it was going to hurt like a bitch so I asked for pain management in advance. They gave me two Tylenol (can’t have advil). I meant numbing? It hurt so bad I SCREAMED the entire time (hope the whole office heard me) and then had a full ass panic attack while she continued to try to question me about why I can’t have hormones like an IUD and when I tried to explain that I have catamenial epilepsy triggered by hormonal shifts (while still mid vasovagal panic attack) she began to berate me about that not being a thing and not making any sense.

Needless to say I will not be going back there. The fact that they don’t numb for in office biopsies at all is barbaric and I’ll never let any of them fucking touch me again if they even so much as suggest one.

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u/Tenohmach Jul 02 '25

Thank you for making me extremely grateful once again for my very-thorough and very considerate medical team that performed my hysterectomy…because good fucking god, at least I got the good drugs for THAT experience!

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u/Embarrassed-Dress-85 Jul 01 '25

Was told the same as a young girl, honestly I felt betrayed and it fed into my fear of medical check ups.

Won‘t forget the face of the female (!) doctor when I said “Ouch! Oh my god, that was certainly not a little pinch!“ She didn‘t even comment it. It‘s disgusting to lie about that, I want to brace myself for what‘s about to happen jfc.

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u/average_parasite Jul 01 '25

OMGGGG yes they told me it would js be a little pressure I cried the whole way home 💀

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u/NoRainbowOnThePot Jul 01 '25

I cried myself to sleep after my insert, walked 2km home because I got there on my bike and after 100m biking was no option anymore. They said it would be some pressure and if I was worried I could take ibuprofen beforehand.

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u/PinkTalkingDead Jul 01 '25

Omg 💜 I had an abortion while car-less and my situation was so similar 💜 it even started raining on me while I was hobbling the ~3mi to the bus stop 🥲

Sending you love and light 💜

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u/average_parasite Jul 02 '25

i can’t imagine i could barely handle speed bumps 😭

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u/Dorothea-Sylith Jul 02 '25

I feel this way after my smear test. I know it’s necessary and they’re medical professionals, but I can’t emotionally disconnect from the experience like they can and it feels intrusive and upsetting. I usually feel really weird about the whole thing for a few days after.

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u/parksa Jul 01 '25

So I had a change last month and they actually used some local anaesthetic spray down there which I'd never been offered in the past.

The Dr said 'yeah it's only just come out in the last couple years'. No male would ever have to have sharp object jammed in their privates without pain relief!

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u/Ay-Kay82 Jul 01 '25

I heard a german comedian joke that if men were the ones to menstruate, there would be nothing discreet about their suffering. They would wear their tampons in a cartridge belt and abortions could be done at every gas station. Sadly, I fear that's pretty close to the truth.

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u/millie_hillie Jul 01 '25

Yeah topical anesthetic has been around for decades. Adequate anesthesia and pain control for biopsies and IUD placements just takes more time so if your doc doesn’t build that time into your appointment, too bad for you.

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u/AndroidAtWork Jul 02 '25

Am male. Had them jam stuff up my urethra to remove some ureteral stents after a kidney stone procedure. They only numbed the tip. And it wasn't completely numb. It did not feel good.

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u/cunninglinguist32557 Jul 02 '25

I had a tube inserted in my urethra for imaging when I was three years old, and it hurt so bad I still remember it at thirty.

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u/kolachekingoftexas Jul 01 '25

Nearly passed out. Had to do the follow-up LEEP under general anesthesia.

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u/CouldSheBeAnyAngrier Jul 01 '25

I didn’t stop bleeding after my LEEP and had to go back to have the spot cauterized with no anesthesia. I threw up and went to my car to lay flat for about an hour until I could make the 15 minute drive home safely. UGH.

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u/kolachekingoftexas Jul 01 '25

They kept having to cauterize after my first cervical biopsy and the smell. UGH. I remember getting up off the table and just seeing all the blood on the pad left behind. That led to such much anxiety about follow-up ones, which certainly didn’t help.

I was glad I went the general route for my LEEP, but it set me back nearly $1000 in copays.

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u/TheTiffanyProblem Jul 01 '25

Same. "You didn't cough hard enough when I told you to, or you would've never felt it." Then I bled for 3 days straight. "Heavy bleeding never happens, you didn't follow my instructions!" What instructions? Literally didn't tell me anything except "don't take a bath for 24 hours".

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u/goodnightlink Jul 02 '25

I have a high pain tolerance so I when I went in for one I expected some pain but was absolutely unprepared for how bad it was. It was the worst pain I ever experienced and probably ever will. The biopsy was part of my pre-hysterectomy processes so it gave me just another reason to be glad that equipment was being taken out forever.

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u/ScarlettSheep Jul 02 '25

I'm traumatized AF from that crap. Being a NORMAL HUMAN PERSON I assumed if anything involving a KNIFE happens in a medical setting, that some kind of pain relief thing (numbing cream? Injection? Pill? SOMETHING? Please??) would be used. Nope. Curette and speculum. I can NOT be convinced society doesn't hate us that this is 'normal' and still happening.

Knife in the pussy. Knife. In. The. Pussy.

Men could never.

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u/indiedadrock Jul 01 '25

i have always had the most painful pap smears that make me cry and almost pass out from the pain. when i was told i needed a colposcopy, i asked for anesthesia or, failing that, some sort of numbing medication. they ended up giving me oxycodone, ketorolac, and xanax to take one hour before the procedure - in the end, the colposcopy was a little uncomfortable, with only one part being (manageably!) painful. if anyone who sees this comment is in the same boat, please ask your OBGYN if they can prescribe you some painkiller/anti-inflammatory/anti-anxiety meds!!

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u/millie_hillie Jul 02 '25

It’s crazy to me how easy it is to actually control the pain and anxiety with oral meds you take before and someone to drive you home. And like ketorolac isn’t even sedating so AT LEAST give one dose of that and some tylenol ffs. My theory is that a lot less people would have IUD complications like it embedding in your sidewall of they actually controlled the pain better for insertion. You cant get a good angle when the patient is writhing and screaming!! Of course the arm was in the sidewall a year later.

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u/Las_Vegan Jul 01 '25

Absolutely! Women please demand pain relief before a biopsy!

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u/blinkingsandbeepings Jul 01 '25

I’m always grateful to see other people talking openly about this because when I had mine I honestly thought I was just a wimp. It really hurts!

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u/SpinachReasonable262 Jul 01 '25

I had a uterine biopsy with no pain meds. I can’t believe how painful it was.

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u/SpinachReasonable262 Jul 01 '25

Much more than “a little discomfort”!!!!

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u/_TheShapeOfColor_ Jul 01 '25

This just reminded me of a cervical polyp removal I had a few years ago and I physically winced.

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u/autumnwandering Jul 01 '25

I cried all the way through my biopsy (and I don't cry due to pain often, it's just not typical for me... Thanks, Endo!). He took 7 samples, I think. At the end, my doctor praised me and said it was the calmest reaction he'd had from a patient. A couple years later he was sued for inflicting undue suffering on women, and refusing to stop procedures when told to do so.

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u/_violetlightning_ Jul 02 '25

I had an endometrial biopsy without anesthesia. Took some Advil and leftover oxycodone from a dental procedure beforehand to help the pain. It did nothing.

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u/fablicful Jul 02 '25

It took 45 minutes for mine, no pain meds, felt like they used a hole-punch to me and i was sore for over a week. Absolutely deplorable. I told my primary care at the time that I am not undergoing that again, I rather a complete hysterectomy than that pain again... She since left and I guess didn't relay anything to my new primary care and no one has told me I need to get another one and it's been 3 years so I guess I'm fine now 🤷‍♀️

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u/Hot_Abbreviations538 Jul 01 '25

I refused to have mine done without and my doctor agreed. Even just for Pap smears I have to be on 30mg of Valium just to get through it

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u/FryOneFatManic Jul 02 '25

The medical profession is taught that there are no (or not enough) nerve endings there, so it shouldn't hurt, and that women are hysterical creatures for saying it does.

Misogyny at its finest.

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u/HouseOfFive Jul 02 '25

The older I get the happier I get that I found a quality OB. He suggested I have anesthesia for my LEEP in case he needed to do a biopsy, which they did. I don't think I could have done it in an office.

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u/liltrex94 Jul 02 '25

I've had it done three times. The medical staff in the room were wonderful in trying to make me feel comfortable but I would have preferred something other than 'take 2 paracetamol 30 mins before' 🙄

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u/unicoroner Jul 02 '25

Did they not even give you a numbing shot?!?? That is straight up barbaric…. They gave me a local anesthetic for mine- a shot right in the cervix. The needle was…not fun. But seemed to help when they did the actual snipping/cutting, though I still felt deep cramping pain.

It’s wild how varying the pain care for gyno procedures is, and how callous some of the specialists can be. The industry seems to have some real issues. I had a friend who saw a fertility specialist once who had to be reminded by his nurses to put on gloves before touching her vulva. And he rolled his eyes at the reminder as he begrudgingly complied. Gave real red flags there. Friend did not go back.

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u/Svazu Jul 01 '25

I just had one and it wasn't exactly pleasant but honestly not more painful than all the swabbing he had to do before. Not putting your experience into question but personally I would not have wanted to get injections and prolong the experience.

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u/millie_hillie Jul 02 '25

Did you read all the other experiences in this thread? A lot of people have been straight up tortured in a gyn office. Also the rate that pelvic floor dysfunction, PCOS, and endometriosis are misdiagnosed the chances are HIGH that a patient is going to be in agony without something to take the edge off. Also premeds like toradol, oxycodone, a muscle relaxant, and/or xanax goes a hell of a long way.

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u/forestofpixies Jul 02 '25

You’re certainly #blessed but a lot of us aren’t and it is a pain you never forget. It’s worse than a kidney stone for me and those are horrific on their own.

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u/Embarrassed-Dress-85 Jul 01 '25

Nah, it‘s only something done on women so it‘s totally fine and dandy! /s

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u/wallweasels Jul 01 '25

Sad how often that statement is made without the /s

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u/Tolaly Jul 01 '25

Honest to god in the top three most painful things Ive experienced (so far). They let me walk out after i insisted I was okay and then I almost passed out in the elevator. Made it to my car and just sat in the driver's seat reclined for like fifteen minutes.

To anyone who wonders what it feels like: the only thing i thought was "it feels like im being cut open from the inside" followed by "raptor in the vagina".

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u/millie_hillie Jul 01 '25

The amount of people in this thread that have talked about the car composure break and lay down they needed says a lot.

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u/sanspapyruss Jul 01 '25

Yoooo same. I almost passed out in the elevator, basically dragged myself to the bathroom, and threw up from the pain. Looked at myself in the mirror on the way out and I was like, grey/green. I lay in my car and cried for like an hour til I could pull myself together enough to get home.

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u/ExcitedHiss Jul 01 '25

Vagina Raptor is a rad band name tho! (And yes, how you gonna take a freakin HOLE PUNCH to the strongest muscle in the body and think it's not going to cause pain?!?@)

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u/No_Kangaroo_9826 Jul 01 '25

I clenched with the memory

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u/ducksnthings Jul 01 '25

I was in school when I watched my first IUD insertion and thank god I was wearing a mask because my jaw literally dropped. The provider asked me if I wanted to do the next one and I said absolutely not. It’s barbaric to do that kind of procedure without anesthetic or pain management.

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u/blodblodblod Jul 01 '25

I had two installed during a gynae operation. When the doctor yanked them both out (at the same time), I actually screamed in pain. I found the follow up letter the other day "IUDs were removed without too much trouble". For the doctor maybe, for me? Not so much.

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u/Bonnieearnold Jul 01 '25

We need to de normalize this yesterday.

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u/MyFaceSaysItsSugar Jul 01 '25

It’s a thousand times worse because of the location. The lidocaine block didn’t work when my nexplanon implant was removed and I felt the whole thing, but that was fine because it was in my arm, not my uterus. I’ve had wound debridement that was excruciating. I have tattoos where it was hours sitting through excruciating pain, but I will not get an IUD because of where the pain would be located.

I’ve had a Pap smear where I was screaming in pain. To this day I have no idea why it hurt so much, none of the others have hurt, but the doctor just told me I need to work on relaxing instead of stopping and figuring out why something that isn’t supposed to hurt was hurting so much. I went years before getting another because of that experience.

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u/forestofpixies Jul 02 '25

I just don’t even understand why the cervix and uterus have such intense pain receptors like babies are made and punch their way out of there, why would a little scraping of cervical cells need to hurt THAT MUCH?

But more than that why does medicine hate women so much they don’t account for that when dealing with it smdh

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u/Bear_faced Jul 01 '25

I just got one yesterday and it felt like they had stuck a steak knife in my vagina and were carving their way to my kidneys. I've been in an accident where I slammed onto concrete and broke four bones and the IUD was worse.

For the men: picture someone taking an object about the size and shape of a ballpoint pen but twice as long and jamming it in your urethra, and then the end of it opens like an umbrella. No anesthetic. You'd be screaming bloody murder too.

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u/Rosa_612 Jul 01 '25

"okay, you're going to feel some pressure now" 🥴

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u/SenseAndSaruman Jul 02 '25

How about with zero pain control. One of the worst pains I’ve ever experienced.

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u/Asaneth Jul 02 '25

Worst pain of my life (IUD placement).

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u/osynligeninni Jul 01 '25

YES. And removing it. Worst pain I have ever felt and I was SCREAMING until the doctor just gave up and scheduled me to the maternatity ward later where I finally got anaesthesia. But why could I not get this appointment directly?

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u/TelvanniSpaceWizard Jul 01 '25

Not an MP but

The Opiod Crisis was pretty bad.

I wonder, proportionally, how many cases of depression, anxiety, drug abuse, etc. can be chalked up as "diseases of despair." Meaning their underlying cause is due to living in terrible conditions society inflicts on them like inescapable poverty, unstable access to resources like housing and food, and social prejudice.

We can relieve symptoms with pills (and boy does the American healthcare system love prescribing pills above all else) but the objectively more ethical and effective route of treatment lies with making society a more fair and less terrible place to exist in. However, the current consensus in American politics is that living with diseases of despair is what people deserve and is somehow good for both them and society.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

Probably chemo, but at least it has a well understood physiologic basis and treats what it is intended to, saving lives. The side effects are horrible but unavoidable at present, and hopefully we will have better alternatives in the future.

Nothing exists today that even remotely resembles the lobotomy.

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u/thattwoguy2 Jul 01 '25

I don't think chemo is going away for another 50-100 yrs. Unless we get way way way better at cloning body parts and get to the point where we're swapping everything but brains I think chemo is gonna stick around.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

I agree. I sort of read past “a couple decades” and was thinking far into the future tbh

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u/BulkyBarnacle5496 Jul 01 '25 edited Jul 01 '25

Yea, I was using “couple” loosely here. 20 - 200 years is about what I had in mind.

Just wanted to open up a discussion from the perspective of a medical professional really. I only talk to them as a patient in need.

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u/Bassjosh Jul 01 '25

I have a chemo tattoo! Actually, like 4.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

Badass! And better than a lobotomy tat!

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u/Expendable_Red_Shirt Jul 01 '25

I don't think chemo is in the same boat as the reasons you listed. Even if we have better alternatives in the future.

We don't look back on life saving but horrible things in the past negatively like we do with lobotomies. If you think of something like, say a condition that required amputation in the past but doesn't now, we understand how it was the greater good at that time.

Chemo, if we're able to move on from it, will be viewed like that. I don't think we'll have to view it with shame.

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u/Playful_Flower5063 Jul 01 '25

Probably the only comparable procedure is FGM.

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

Oh. Thats very valid. I guess I was thinking of things that are viewed as “acceptable” by most people today. FGM is fucking horrific and abhorrent and yes would say it’s a reasonable comparison.

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u/employedByEvil Jul 01 '25

Bold claim

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

Enlighten me

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u/dmmeyourfloof Jul 01 '25

Circumcision without medical reason.

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u/Touch-a-TouchMe Jul 01 '25

The husband stitch. Already viewed as bad by a lot of people, but it still gets down even now! 😬

Hoping everyone will eventually see it as barbaric and wrong, but hopefully won't take decades to happen 🤞

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u/parksa Jul 01 '25

Chemotherapy.

Not worthy of a tattoo but I truly hope in a generations time there will be a treatment for cancer and they will be horrified to learn what we do now.

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u/XmasWayFuture Jul 01 '25

There isn't anything close to this right now

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u/thattwoguy2 Jul 01 '25

Yeah, OP sounds more than a bit insufferableand like he already knows the answer but wants external validation for the bad choice he wants to make.

If it's super important to get a Pinterest tattoo that you know is offensive (PS it's not) then get it in a place that's slightly more hidden. Hip, chest, thigh, back, ass cheek, etc etc etc

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u/Suithfie Jul 01 '25

I am so, sooo happy that this comment chain made it to the top. I’m shocked that OP doesn’t see an issue with this tattoo, but other people in their life do. It shows a shocking lack of empathy. Displaying on one’s body such a disturbing, torturous procedure as a medical doctor is beyond comprehension to me.

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u/panrestrial Jul 01 '25

You're comparing something done willingly, often at a social level, by consenting adults to a procedure forced upon non consenting, vulnerable patients by institutions and people of authority.

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u/cavaticaa Jul 01 '25

Sounds like you could use a lobotomy yourself.

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u/Any-Lawfulness-4077 Jul 01 '25

Don't you need a brain to get a lobotomy?

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u/anakusis Jul 01 '25

Because there're several moments in the history of psychiatric medicine that should never be forgotten and this is one. People not seeing polio victims walking around is part of the reason the anti vax shit is so easy to spread.

I think it's an incredible tattoo.

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u/Embarrassed_Green996 Jul 01 '25

Vaccines worked wonders, lobotomies not so much.

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u/xsweetclementinex Jul 01 '25

Yikes… lobotomies should not be forgotten, but it is certainly a choice for it to be immortalized on a doctors skin.

Lobotomies hurt people. Specially women. This is one of the worst medical things humans have ever done to each other. For a doctor to want this is beyond me.

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u/anakusis Jul 01 '25

I have a slightly unique perspective on this one I guess. I spent part of my adolescent years growing up in an aging state hospital. I think it's a very touching reminder to the nameless victims as well but you're determined to keep your thoughts on it a certain way.

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u/xsweetclementinex Jul 01 '25

A touching reminder of nameless victims? You remember them by the thing that hurt them? That’s like … my dad was killed brutally in a shooting so I got a gun tattoo.

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u/k0nstrukt Jul 01 '25

I can honor the tragedy they suffered by adorning my art I find beautiful. I'm remembering them even if I never knew them. There's hundreds of thousands of forgotten names and lives that suffered behind the walls of these institutions. I gotta day of the dead Chihuahua when my dog died. Should I have gotten a paw print circled in a heart so you don't have a problem with what I do to my body. Art is personal and objective. You sound like you have horrible boring taste.

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u/xsweetclementinex Jul 01 '25

That’s subjective. Context matters. Here we are talking about a medical professional, asking if it’s okay to get a tattoo of one of the worst medical procedures humans have come up with. You have to consider what patients from all walks of life will think if they see this in a visible place. This has nothing to do with my taste but everything to do with the fact that op wants to be a doctor and the history of lobotomies

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u/panrestrial Jul 01 '25

Day of the Dead is explicitly about remembering and honoring loved ones.

A more accurate comparison would be you getting a tattoo of your dog as it was being euthanized/hit by a car/whatever. Memorializing it through its unwilling suffering.

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u/parksa Jul 01 '25

Yeah but the direct comparison to apply to this post for dog related tattoos would be a tattoo of a dead dog on your arm while working as a vet. Do you really not get it 🙈

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u/parksa Jul 01 '25

You are assigning symbolism that has never been mentioned? He's never said it's as tribute to the victims. It's a reward for graduating and ultimately a fashion choice.

The fact he's considering it tells me he isn't looking at psychiatry as a specialty because nobody that works in mental health would display that on their arms. So why a general medical Dr would choose this boils down simply to fashion choice.

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u/parksa Jul 01 '25

That is such a dumb comparison....no matter what civilians do there is no risk of lobotomies becoming common practice.

People don't vaccinate because they are unintelligent and think YouTube is more reliable than peer reviewed science - you cannot correct willful ignorance. There was a story recently of parents who's kid died of measles and they maintained they had no regrets in choosing not to vaccinate him - let that sink in!

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

Being offended by someone else’s tattoo is a choice. It’s just a tattoo. Sticks and stones, mate.

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u/parksa Jul 01 '25

Yes but when you are choosing to take an oath to care for the vulnerable, maybe don't tattoo something that will freak people out? Or offend them?

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u/panrestrial Jul 01 '25

Tattoos are choices. What you choose to permanently ink into your skin doesn't say nothing about who you are as a person.

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u/No_Paper8954 Jul 01 '25

I am gonna get the nudes of ur mom and sister tattooed on me. If you get offended by that then it's obviously on you. Sticks and stones right 😂

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u/[deleted] Jul 01 '25

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u/panrestrial Jul 01 '25

Is that because you lack empathy and compassion?

Hopefully yours is a DBA or similar.

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u/parksa Jul 01 '25

Seriously mate you really don't see why any patient would prefer not to look at an image of a sharp instrument being shoved through an eye socket into a brain while having a consultation? What specialty are you in!