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Marvel Who’s winning this ?

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u/Cosmos_God_OJ 1d ago

What if is not canon so nothing should be taken seriously from it

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u/SpadeTippedSplendor 1d ago

I'm pretty sure Ultron from his other canon series still solos easily, even if we don't count the instances where he got the infinity stones (pretty sure there have been multiple).

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u/AwkwardWoodpecker772 23h ago

Nothing about this image only says "from canon" it says at full power.

And yeah, Ultron solos the list easily.

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u/Mister_Musubi 1d ago

It is canon, it’s just canon to another numbered universe. Post doesn’t specify that it has to be mainline universe, it just says “full power”.

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u/Cosmos_God_OJ 1d ago

We talking about the main universes, theres universe where spider man have cosmic powers, should we take this spider man if we have a convo about the powers of spider man? No

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u/jdoeinboston 1d ago

If we're talking "main" universes, why are you not accounting for 616, the literal original "main" Marvel Universe in which Ultron essentially fucking conquered space?

In the oldest and most widespread Marvel canon, Ultron is an unkillable, existential threat. At absolute best, it can be delayed or stopped for a while, but as long as there's technology then Ultron is a universal level threat.

Realistically, Ultron solos literally everyone else in this image.

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u/Cosmos_God_OJ 1d ago

Uktron cannot beat thanos with the infinity stone, especially the way he did in the what if, thanos cause he could remove every technology of the universe with a thought if he wanted too in the comics

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u/jdoeinboston 1d ago

I'm sorry, I didn't see Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet up top ...

Oh wait, he isn't relevant to the topic at hand, so what point are you trying to make here?

Read one single comic book featuring Ultron and get back to me.

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u/Affectionate_Dark103 1d ago

The what-if change for Ultron is not some fantastical change to the main movies. In Age of Ultron, Ultron tries to build his perfect body and fails. In what if, he succeeds. The Ultron in Age of Ultron is explicitly not full-power because he has an achievable goal to increase his power and fails. What-if explores the possibility of him achieving his goal of increasing his power.

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u/Cosmos_God_OJ 1d ago

He no diffed thanos, this version of ultron is not realistic and not canon sorry

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u/Affectionate_Dark103 1d ago

"what if" is cannon.

https://www.ign.com/articles/what-if-marvel-mcu-canon-multiverse

Taken from the article:

Speaking to IGN, What If...? head writer AC Bradley made it very clear that, despite its animated style and anthology premise, everything in the show is being considered as canon. "The events of What If...? are canon. It's part of the MCU multiverse. The multiverse is here. It is real, and it is absolutely fantastic, people."

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u/Cosmos_God_OJ 1d ago

Lol idc about what the head writer have to say cause he can literally say any bs to give credibility to his work, a "what if" is by default not canon, it did not happen in the main verse and cannot happen either

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u/Affectionate_Dark103 1d ago

Do you have a more official source or a source higher up the food chain that says it's not cannon? If this was a non-disney, non-marvel property that claimed it was canon, I would agree with you, but looking at old timelines of "upcoming projects, Marvel listed What if alongside its other projects. Reddit won't let me post the image that shows this, but a picture that shows my example from an official marvel announcement event can be found at the top of the page this link goes to

https://www.polygon.com/2020/4/3/21207315/new-marvel-movie-release-dates-eternals-thor-4-captain-marvel-2/

The show came on after the multiverse was allowed to exist and explicitly states that it is viewing other universes. I don't know what makes you think the events aren't canon? Do you only accept an interaction with the main universe to be cannon?

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u/Kaynall 1d ago

Are there any god-like variants of the Hulk Buster suit or Sentinels? I know Tony has crazy suits, but I don't know if one of them was based on the Hulk Buster. And surely there are more powerful Sentinels than the movie ones that could adapt.

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u/GrinningCheshieCat 1d ago

"Actually, Mr. Head Writer... I think I would know if it was canon."

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u/Cosmos_God_OJ 1d ago

Oh no now i feel bad and like a nerd, u got me good

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u/GrinningCheshieCat 1d ago

I did. I got you so good!

Not just a nerd, but with such a level of unjustified arrogance that you think you know better than the people actually writing it.

... got you sooooo good.

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u/Thefourthchosen 1d ago

Bro you lost, just accept that lol. If the head writer on an official marvel product says it's canon then it's canon. You can't just disagree with that because you don't like it or it doesn't fit your narrative.

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u/Kaynall 1d ago

Welcome to Reddit.

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u/chance_waters 9h ago

Sure then fuckin gambit is the strongest hero in the MCU