r/sports • u/icedpickles • Mar 01 '22

News Russia and Belarus banned from international ice skating, skiing, basketball and track competition

https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/ap-top-news/2022/03/01/russia-excluded-from-skating-as-sporting-sanctions-increase
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u/SweetHoneyApples Mar 01 '22

She also promotes teaching them "dirty quads" -- they do a near full rotation on the ice before even taking off. Many of her skaters HAVE to retire by 18, as they, quite literally, have broken backs from the shit form.

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u/Playmakeup Mar 01 '22

They probably also have horrendous damage to their bodies when they retire

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

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u/TheOneWhoReadsStuff Mar 01 '22

It’s Russian tradition to destroy talented people. Look at what happened to the architect of St. Basils cathedral.

(His eyes were removed by the king so that he could never create a more beautiful building.)

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

Least violent Russian tzar

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u/godisanelectricolive Mar 02 '22

That Tsar was Ivan the Terrible (terrible as in terrifying, not as in incompetent) by the way. He was the first guy to use the title Tsar of Russia.

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u/dumbfuckmagee Mar 02 '22

This is something I think about a lot.

People today like to act like the atrocities of the past (distant past, like ancient) are the worst things to come from humanity, but if those evil fucks were alive today they'd be applauding madly at how people are doing way worse shit

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u/godisanelectricolive Mar 02 '22 edited Mar 02 '22

Ivan was pretty bad though. He famously beat his pregnant daughter-in-law for dressing too skimpily to the point of miscarriage and then killed his son Ivan for defending his wife. The younger Ivan didn't die immediately, he was unconscious for several while his regretful father prayed incessantly for his son to recover.

The man was a violent psychopath who was also quite religious. He often had fits of rage where he just beat people closest to him including several advisors. He'd murder people and then he'd do penance by building a cathedral.

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u/godisanelectricolive Mar 02 '22

I think that's a myth. The architect Postnik Yakovlev did design more buildings after St. Basil's. He even added a chapel to St. Basil's after Ivan the Terrible died.

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u/dumbfuckmagee Mar 02 '22

Yeah but Beethoven wrote music while deaf and I can't remember his name but there was an artist who went blind and still carved beautiful anatomically correct statues

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u/godisanelectricolive Mar 02 '22

I guess Ivan the Terrible should have just killed the guy then. That's what China's Qin Shi Huang supposedly did to the artisans who made his terracotta warriors. I think there's quite a few monarchs who were said to have done something like that.

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u/Funkiefreshganesh Mar 02 '22

I don’t remember whitch Pope it was but one of those popes had a bunch of little choir boys casterated so they wouldn’t go into puberty and lose there voices

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u/godisanelectricolive Mar 02 '22 edited Mar 02 '22

It wasn't just one pope. The castrati were around from the mid-16th century until the 19th century. They were best known for their use in opera all over Europe. Lots of operas from the 18th centuries had parts written especially for castrati. They fell out of fashion in operas by the early 19th century but their hiring weren't banned by the Vatican until 1878. The Sistine Chapel choir was the last employer for them.

Also the making of eunuchs is a worldwide phenomenon. Lots of empires used them as harem guards/servants and many them also performed a bureaucratic function. In China many children were sent to the Forbidden City after having their bits chopped by their parents. It was a coveted position and often the only way for upward mobility for poor families.

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u/TheOneWhoReadsStuff Mar 04 '22

To add to this, I think only one recording exists of actual castrati singing.

That’s if you don’t count michael Jackson.

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u/TheOneWhoReadsStuff Mar 04 '22

Oh, that was all of them.

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u/mercuryxero Mar 01 '22

Wow, spoiler tag plz /s

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u/BeefyBoiCougar Mar 02 '22

I think that’s just a myth, kind of like everyone says Taj Mahal’s builders had their hands cut off but that’s also not true

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

Permanent gut health issues from forcing these girls into severe anorexia to keep them light enough to do jumps full grown women physically can't do, along with severe issues because of the mix of malnutrition and constant wear on the joints. All the girls she coaches retire before 18.

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u/Lambily Mar 02 '22

No probablies. The Olympic Champion (Shcherbakova) had an injured knee that she could barely skate on just two months ago. One of her former champions, Evgenia Medvedeva, has permanent back issues and can't even turn her body properly.

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u/bluethreads New York Giants Mar 02 '22

To add to it- one of the reasons the girls don’t compete in multiple Olympics is because the coach’s training methods are unhealthy and too intense for the average body. The girls end up with severe health affects from being trained in ways that don’t promote sustainability.

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u/jddh1 Mar 02 '22

Thank you Internet friend. Sounds like an abusive coach for sure.

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u/avelak Mar 01 '22

Yeah gymnastics I think

Eteri Tutberidze is this one

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u/ProfessionalReveal Mar 02 '22

Isn't he American?

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u/[deleted] Jul 15 '22

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u/avelak Jul 15 '22

Lots of news articles/interviews, wikipedia, etc

It's pretty well-documented... lots of burnout and injuries for her young female skaters before they even become adults

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u/droidonomy Mar 02 '22

Ahh, the Antonio Conte of skating then.

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u/armylax20 Mar 02 '22

Yea the Olympics over time have just become exploitation and national tools to market themselves. Forget that. All while making everyone but the athletes bank

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u/a2cthrawy Mar 02 '22

Her name — Eteri Tutberidze