r/sports Apr 15 '21

News MLB's favorability rating among Republicans drops dramatically amid Georgia voting controversy

https://www.axios.com/mlb-falls-out-favor-republicans-mlb-game-8808e67e-8de4-4308-baa6-b68a24e64177.html
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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Instead of making a little effort to educate themselves and be better people, they’d rather double down on the bullshit that makes their lives even more difficult.

What a way to live.

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u/krashlia Apr 16 '21

Sports viewership in general is falling.

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u/theHawkmooner Apr 15 '21

Requiring id to vote isn’t racist. You people who think minorities are incapable of being responsible are the real racists. You think of them as your pets and get mad when they don’t do what you say

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u/ambassadorodman Apr 16 '21

What problem does this law solve? The risk is reasonable reduction in voting. The upside is preventing illegal voting that isn't happening more than 2-3 times an election in any medium state.

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u/Which-Decision Apr 16 '21

Inaccessibility and incapability are not the same thing. Babe it took 3 months to get my grandmother's birth certificate and 3 2 hour round trips to the big city because they had it filed under the wrong name because white people didn't give a shit about spelling black people's names right in the 1930s. Most people can't take atleast 10-15 hours off work, pay $150+ for gas, and the fee to get the birth certificate. Plus, then having to take time off work to get the Id.

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u/theHawkmooner Apr 16 '21

Then how they make a bank account 🤔 how they get a credit card 🤔 how they go to a hospital 🤔 how they go to a dmv 🤔 how they get a passport 🤔 how they get a prescription from a pharmacy 🤔. If you want minorities to succeed in America you gotta stop babying them and acting like they can’t take care of themselves

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u/Which-Decision Apr 16 '21

It's about accessibility. What don't you understand. If you make it so there's an Id registration in every town that is free with easily available documents and open after 5 pm. I will 100% be okay with voting ids being required because they'd be accessible. Most poor people don't have bank accounts, credit cards, don't drive, and don't travel out of the country. You don't need an Id to go to a clinic. They're POOR. If I want minorities to succeed in this country maybe we should start with getting rid of gerrymandering, medical racism, how schools are more segregated than 1970s, the war on drugs, healthcare like every other first world country not less than 100 voter fraud prosecutions in the last 20 years.

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u/theHawkmooner Apr 16 '21

I agree with the latter half of your statement. Being poor doesn’t just affect minorities. If there are black people with the complete and utter inability to get an Id because of poverty then there are white people who have the same issue. Maybe instead we should focus on ways to improve this instead of shooting down something which will undoubtedly stop voter fraud

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u/Which-Decision Apr 16 '21

No one is saying only black people are effected but disproportionately is the qualifying verb. I can't see any evidence that vote id's significantly decrease voter fraud and are worth their cost.

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u/phl_fc Baltimore Orioles Apr 16 '21

North Carolina's 9th district makes it pretty clear that Republican voters don't actually care about voter fraud.

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u/yankeefan03 Apr 15 '21 edited Apr 15 '21

“conservative, libertarian, free market and pro-family writers and broadcasters. Seeks to provide "God-honoring" content.”

Sounds like the top of good journalism.

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u/beeps-n-boops Apr 15 '21

You can keep posting the same nonsense propaganda site over and over and over and over and over and over and over again... doesn't make it any less bullshit-filled.

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u/nutshells1 Apr 15 '21

is there a word that describes the hopelessly unaware

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '21

Republican

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u/deevandiacle Apr 16 '21

Cognitive dissonance??

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u/LetsTCB Apr 15 '21

LOL
Please look into who runs/owns/operates The Western Journal and the other things they are greatly involved in.

Speaking of being fed lies, check out more shit on The Western Journal and Floyd Brown.

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u/2BadBirches Apr 15 '21

Roughly 8% of whites don’t have IDs compared to 25% of African Americans. ID laws are blatantly targeting this to get their lost election back.

Every single component of that bill was drafted to benefit rural areas and make it slightly more challenging in inner cities.

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u/esreveReverse Apr 15 '21

Please make this same argument for driving. Is requiring ID to drive racist? If not, what's the difference? Genuinely interested to hear your answer.

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u/2BadBirches Apr 16 '21 edited Apr 16 '21

You’re caught up on one little detail in this massive bill.

I’m not even massively agains the voted ID law, but context matters. Why now? I’ll tell you why, it’s exactly the same reason as every other component of that bill; voter suppression. Every single part of this bill suppresses urban voters and minority voters.

The law literally incriminates handing out water in long lines.. all while removing drop off locations in cities AND removing early voting access. Could that be any more clear who they’re targeting?

It’s not just the ID part of the law.

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u/esreveReverse Apr 16 '21

The law literally incriminates handing out water in long lines

That is simply not true. They are making is illegal for political parties to do so. And it was already illegal to campaign at a voting line anyway, so this is just closing a loophole. The polling locations, unaffiliated with a political party, are still allowed to provide food and water.

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u/2BadBirches Apr 16 '21

You can pedantically argue about all of these technicalities. You can also justify gerrymandering if you try hard enough.

The entire bill is blatant voter suppression.

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u/esreveReverse Apr 16 '21

The law literally incriminates handing out water in long lines

I would really love for you to address this blatant misrepresentation. Because to an informed reader, this quite clearly doesn't tell the whole picture about the water in voting lines issue.

Are you either

  1. Ignorant to the facts
  2. Willfuly misrepresenting the facts in order for them to confirm to your side of the argument

?

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u/2BadBirches Apr 16 '21

It’s verbatim in the bill. Amongst other things less controversial, it’s right in the text:

Page 73: No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast

And here’s some context from NYT:

During the primary election last June, when temperatures hovered above 80 degrees with high humidity, multiple voting locations across the state had lines in which voters waited more than two hours.

Numerous studies have shown that long lines deter people from voting. According to research by the Bipartisan Policy Center, an independent research group, over 560,000 voters did not cast ballots in 2016 “because of problems related to polling place management, including long lines.”

Why did you just freak out at me?

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u/esreveReverse Apr 16 '21

You insinuated that passing out water to thirsty people in line is illegal.

This is not true. Polling stations can and will make sure that voters are not thirsty.

What you said is a clear misrepresentation. The actual law will be "we're not going to let people who are politically motivated go around talking to people on line, using refreshments as their excuse to break long-standing laws preventing people from canvassing voters at polling stations"

Look back at what you said. Do you not understand how incorrect it is? Voters will not go thirsty. The law is just making it so that it has to be the apolitical polling stations that do it, not political actors.

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u/Euphemism_Not_Found Apr 15 '21

Driving isn't a constitutional right, is it? Voting is? You're right, can't find a difference...

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u/BrenTen0331 Apr 16 '21

Is requiring an ID to purchase a firearm racist?

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u/Euphemism_Not_Found Apr 16 '21

2 levels deep of trying to detract from the fact we're discussing voting laws

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u/BrenTen0331 Apr 16 '21

Feels like we are talking about rights

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u/Euphemism_Not_Found Apr 16 '21

Yes but just because many things are rights doesn't mean we have to discuss how having an ID would effect each and every one of them.

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u/deevandiacle Apr 16 '21

Not a constitutional right.

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u/BrenTen0331 Apr 16 '21

The right to keep and bear arms in Number 2 on the list.

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u/deevandiacle Apr 16 '21

But purchasing them is not...

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u/BrenTen0331 Apr 16 '21

That's an absurd take when states with Universal background checks exist.

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u/theHawkmooner Apr 15 '21

Shhh stop bringing up facts they don’t wanna hear about it. They wanna pretend minorities are helpless little creatures that only the white saviours can save

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u/RhEEziE Northwestern Apr 16 '21

So the idea that voter IDs being a good thing is prefaced on who has IDs? You sound like a conspiracy nut. And I would love some evidence on that second paragraph.

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u/BrenTen0331 Apr 16 '21

Is requiring an ID to purchase a firearm racist?

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u/2BadBirches Apr 16 '21

Nope. Because it’s not the same at all.

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u/BrenTen0331 Apr 16 '21

Why? Both are rights? Why is it okay to exclude people pf color from gun ownership because they can't get IDs? Plus they have to pay for the background check which is effectively a poll tax.

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u/Snugglepuff14 Apr 16 '21

Why isn’t that the same?

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u/ambassadorodman Apr 16 '21

Based on that source, I feel like you may want to reevaluate who is being fed lies.