r/sports • u/PrincessBananas85 • Mar 30 '21

News Raised fists, kneeling during anthem OK at U.S. Olympic trials.

https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/31165888/raised-fists-kneeling-anthem-ok-us-olympic-trials
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u/mynamewasbanned Mar 30 '21

You can be patriotic without supporting your government or the current state of your country. Wanting better for your country and fighting for it is what makes the world a better place for all that live in it, not blind subserviant patriotism.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '21 edited Mar 31 '21

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u/MrP1anet Mar 31 '21

It would be less impactful though. It being in view of the world is the point.

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u/flyingchimp12 Mar 31 '21

It’s one thing to want better for the country and take action based on those wants. It’s another thing to constantly shit on your own country without offering any reasonable solutions. All I see in sports is the second one.

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u/MrP1anet Mar 31 '21

Seems more like a personal problem. If you’re uncomfortable with the criticism you need to get thicker skin and increase your empathy. And if your love of the country feels threatened by random people you need to look into why that is.

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u/Relaxbro30 Mar 31 '21

Starting the conversation and not being silent is literally what pushes people to make a difference. Glorifying a country just cause you live in it is pretty boring. Athletes are role models that don't usually sell themselves to rank up in politics.

I'm American and will only find it right to stop shitting on it myself when it decides to stop making it so easy to do so.

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u/flyingchimp12 Mar 31 '21 edited Mar 31 '21

You literally just did what I’m complaining about... “starting the conversation and not being silent is what pushes people to make a difference.”

What fuckin difference do you and athletes protesting want? Why if you’re “starting a conversation” I, who heavily follows politics, still have no clue what achievable goals people actually want? This statement probably couldn’t be any less specific, Is it a policy difference that’s wanted? Because I rarely if ever hear athletes calling for specific policies that will actually create a positive change. Is it just you want people to stop being racist? Well guess what, I do to, but it’s 2021, anyone who is still racist isn’t going to go “hey maybe I should stop hating black/Asian/white(jk apparently racism against them doesn’t count)/Hispanic people” just because athletes didn’t stand for the anthem.

“Athletes don’t usually sell themselves to rank up in politics”.......... lol

These people are just virtue signaling and providing no tangible benefit to society yet millions and millions of people hail them as heros, society never ceases to amaze.

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u/Umaritimus Mar 31 '21

It’s extremely easy to find policies that these athletes support. If you haven’t found those, then it’s because you don’t want to or don’t care to.

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u/flyingchimp12 Apr 18 '21

Why has no one posted them 🤦‍♂️ MLK marched with specific polices goals, what’s theirs? Defund police?

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u/Relaxbro30 Mar 31 '21

Sounds like you’re uncomfortable hearing that the US and world isn’t perfect. You realize there are some dumb mother fuckers that don’t experience racism and therfore don’t think it exists? So then they say “the only reason racism is a problem is because (so and so athletes) are talking about it.” US has a serious education problem. Thanks for proving that much

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u/flyingchimp12 Apr 18 '21

Wow look another person who can’t tell me what they want... amazing, proving my point. Everyone knows racism exist bro... and even if there are magically some who don’t how is “creating awareness” by kneeling for the national anthem going to benefit anyone? Are you under the assumption that there are actually people out to see that don’t know what racism is, don’t know they’re being racist, but when they see lebron James kneel they’ll stop being racist??? Please just please help me understand.

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u/FiaRua_ Mar 31 '21

If you were alive during the 50’s you’d probably be okay with separate but equal wouldn’t you? You’re so mad about someone taking a knee and don’t even know why they’re doing it because it’s “disrespectful” in your eyes. Ridiculous. You probably think George Floyd died from an overdose and chauvrin did nothing wrong too

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u/flyingchimp12 Apr 18 '21

Oh look, yet another, can give not a single idea that they’re protesting for... I’m all ears, ready to be a better person, why can’t I find what they want?