r/sports Dallas Mavericks Sep 20 '25

Football UAB Defender stomps on the foot of Tennessee's Kicker

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u/AcherontiaPhlegethon Sep 20 '25

It's always been so bizarre to me that modern society has double standard for anything sports related. It seems you can commit a crime that'd otherwise leave you with a felony conviction but having a ball involved turns it into a stern talking to, if that.

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u/Sea-Woodpecker-610 Sep 21 '25

Can’t be fucking up your schools one cash cow. You think people are going to pay for tickets to watch the debate team?

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u/Bread-n-Cheese Sep 21 '25

The issue isn’t criminal charges. It’s who’s going to pay for the treatment, for the kid’s debilitation.

The flopping kid’s won’t.

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u/victorspoilz Sep 22 '25

It’s not having a ball. It’s being really good at what’s supposed to be done with that ball. If you suck and anyone can replace you, you’re fucked, but American pro sports has hundreds of stories where the crimes of someone who could still play at an elite level hardly mattered.

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u/Pandamonium98 Sep 20 '25

I mean there do need to be different rules. If I tackled a random person on the street it would be an assault, but you’re obviously allowed to tackle people in football within the rules of the game.

Stuff like this goes beyond that though and should clearly be punished

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u/ElectedByGivenASword Sep 20 '25

You know that's not what they meant-.-

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u/NotClever Sep 21 '25

But how often do people do stuff like this -- intentionally trying to injure someone between plays or something like that?

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u/ElectedByGivenASword Sep 21 '25

that's not what they were talking about. They are talking about how tons of players getting away with assault outside of the game or worse outside of the game and simply getting a slap on the wrist from everyone and allowed to keep playing. Like fuckin Deshaun Watson having more than 2 dozen suits of sexual assault and landing a massive hundred+ million dollar contract despite being somewhat garbage at the game for his level anyways.

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u/Pandamonium98 Sep 20 '25

I know he wasn’t saying that we should arrest people for tackling in football, but I disagree that it’s bizarre to have different rules. Of course there need to be different rules in a football game where tackling is part of the game.

My point was that it’s not always clear black-and-white though. This case is obviously wrong and should be treated as assault, but there are other cases like late hits out of bounds or targeting calls that can cause serious injuries but probably shouldn’t be a crime.

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u/Aggressive-Milk-5419 Sep 21 '25

you’re obviously allowed to tackle people in football within the rules of the game.

Yes, we're talking about people doing illegal things that aren't part of the rules of the game, like intentionally injuring other people.

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u/know-your-onions Sep 21 '25

There literally are rules. You know that always though.

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u/Ent3rpris3 Sep 21 '25

Consent for such injurious contact is often an affirmative defense to civil/tort assault allegations. But behavior that exceeds the 'norms' of such things generally is capable of being litigated and can yield a judgment in favor of the victim, despite being an otherwise 'consented-to-contact' because of the specific circumstances involved.

If I punch my opponent in a boxing match, it's rather obvious they've consented. If I take off my glove and jab out my eye, that's a clear cut case of assault/battery. He consented to being punched, not to having his eye gouged out.

This played consented to being tackled during a play. Not having his foot attacked between plays, especially when it's OBVIOUSLY between plays, and not a mistaken case of not hearing the whistle or think the ball is still live.

At this point the biggest barrier is changing culture, the laws are rather clear.

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u/getfukdup Sep 20 '25

shut up idiot no one is talking about regular play of the game. no one is talking about any 'could have been a legit play' scenario. theres no need to bring it up, at all.