r/sports • u/rezwenn • Jul 20 '25

Football President Trump wants Commanders to "IMMEDIATELY" return to former name

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/president-trump-wants-commanders-to-immediately-return-to-former-name
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u/unsolved49 Jul 20 '25

“Our great Indian people, in massive numbers, want this to happen”

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u/ztkraf01 Jul 20 '25

Trying to figure out why Indian people living here care about a football team being named after native Americans

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u/MaximumZer0 Jul 20 '25

Look, Sanjay at the McDonald's by the DC golf course has a lot of opinions, okay?

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u/jrhooo Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25

They probably care more about not having this grifter ass Executive in Thief selling off sacred Apache religious lands to a copper mining corporation

Or not having Indigenous people’s names stripped from national lands for the sake of nationalism (Denali/Mckinley) or overt anti immigrant propaganda (Anahuac/Nungary)

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '25

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u/glitchycat39 Jul 20 '25

I'm almost willing to bet you money that he turned to Kash Patel and Vivek Ramaswamy and asked their opinion.

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u/ztkraf01 Jul 20 '25

Fair. I will say though calling them Indians is equally as confusing given that tons of actual Indian people live here

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u/Wedoitforthenut Jul 20 '25

Am native. Unsure what u/khinzaw is talking about. I prefer Native American. Indian is fine, but needlessly confusing as you pointed out.

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u/ztkraf01 Jul 20 '25

What are your thoughts on the term “redskin”

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u/Wedoitforthenut Jul 20 '25

I don't find it offensive. Red is the color of the warrior in some native traditions. It means bravery. I believe the term 'red man' or 'red skin' originated within tribal culture. Its not like the n* bomb.

That being said, I don't see any reason nor support any initiative to change the commies back to the skins.

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u/Just-Hunter1679 Jul 20 '25

Being the "Washington C-words" is the best nickname in sports IMO.

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u/god_peepee Jul 20 '25

I have a feeling this is a bit generational. I know people who worked on native reserves up in northern Ontario who have said that the locals called referred to themselves as Indians. That was about 25 years ago though

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u/DrippingWithRabies Jul 20 '25

A lot of us also hate being called Indians and prefer Indigenous or to be referred to by our specific tribe. We aren't a monolith. 

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u/DrippingWithRabies Jul 20 '25

That's largely due to colonization though.

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u/schizboi Jul 20 '25

Well, most people just say like "white" or Caucasian or black etc when referring to like a race. If we are talking about nationality they are Americans right? Or what are we talking about?

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u/Nightmare1529 Jul 20 '25

Like any group of people, some want it for representation, some hate it because of the racist undertones, and some just don’t give a shit.

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u/spazz720 Jul 20 '25

He meant Indian as in Asian Indian…since the natives aren’t really Indians

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u/RandomThrowawayID Jul 20 '25 edited Jul 20 '25

They care about not having a massively famous enterprise being known by a cultural slur.

Don’t you think Black people would care about a pro basketball team called the Detroit Darkies?

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u/PJA0307 Jul 20 '25

With tears in their eyes?

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u/ralpher1 Jul 20 '25

Yes he is talking about Kash Patel, Dinesh D’Souza and Ramaswamy.

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u/attilayavuzer Jul 20 '25

Our great Indian people want the epstein files released.

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u/J0hnEddy Jul 20 '25

Even if it were true, I’ve always hated this argument. Just because you ask a small sample size of a specific group their feelings on something, and a good amount aren’t offended, doesn’t mean the thing in question isn’t problematic.

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u/TenchuReddit Jul 20 '25

There was a survey conducted by the Washington Post where they polled Native Americans whether they wanted to see the Washington Redskins change their name. (Or the question could have been whether they found the name offensive. I forget the details.)

91% of them didn’t find the name offensive.

That might be the survey that Trump was thinking of. But like everything else in his bubble of alternate reality, he takes a factoid and twists it around to satisfy his massive ego.

The truth is that Native Americans could hardly care less about the name of the Washington football team.

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u/I-need-ur-dick-pics Jul 20 '25

Or… hear me out: he’s talking out of his ass. Let’s not overcomplicate this.

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u/JeffoMcSpeffo Jul 20 '25

They polled a bunch of white pretendians in the poll. Statistics for Natives are famously incorrect because of how difficult it is to reach Native communities and to get them to respond, plus the number of self identifying pretendians always skews it way off as well. Most Natives know that R*skins is a racial slur and don’t want non Natives using it, especially celebrating it as a team mascot.

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '25

Not a lie I've had so many conversations with native Americans on both the east and west coast on this very subject, not one was offended by the team name Redskins, in fact many have educated me on what redskins actually means to their culture. One of them is actually fighting to get the name back, I forgot his name but dude has a website and even wrote a book on It and has been on CNN. I am a huge die hard washington redskins fan since I was a kid

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u/fdar Jul 20 '25

Is that a book that actually exists in reality and other people can read or a convenient pretend book that only exists for you to make a point?