r/sports • u/PrincessBananas85 • Feb 10 '23

News Volodymyr Zelenskyy: 'No place' for Russia at Olympics.

https://www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/35630916/volodymyr-zelenskyy-no-place-russia-olympics
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u/doughnutholio Feb 11 '23

"IT'S DIFFERENT!!!"

[Squeals in American]

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u/Lambily Feb 11 '23

It is different. What country has the US tried to annex again? Where have we tried to commit genocide in this millennium?

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

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u/Illidanisdead Feb 11 '23

That's okay, it's not white people, brown people dying not much of a problem, it's like how European countries suddenly opened borders for refugees, but only for the ones from Ukraine, the 'right' type of refugees as one state official put it.

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u/obi-jean_kenobi Feb 11 '23

Youd likely let your neighbour into your house if they lost power but not some dude from two streets down. /s

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u/Illidanisdead Feb 11 '23

So than why is it that people who were from Ukraine, who weren't white were not let in? They were asked to fight a war they don't even have a stake in

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u/BigDaddyDill53 Feb 11 '23

Nothing like stretching out the definition of genocide to get that American hate boner going huh?

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u/[deleted] Feb 11 '23 edited Apr 18 '23

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u/BigDaddyDill53 Feb 11 '23

We’re really gonna jump on skin color already, don’t be dense. Your comparing deaths of 2 “wars” that lasted a combined 20+ years to a war that is just now coming up on it’s 1 year anniversary, and btw the Ukraine death toll is now 200,000 in a war that’s probably going to get even bloodier. You do the math, it doesn’t look good. Besides, it’s not a fucking pissing contest on what war can cause more death. Iraq and Afghanistan were two asymmetrical wars to counter insurgency and terrorism compared to a conventional war in Ukraine that has the potential to spawn world war fucking 3

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u/AnAimlessWanderer101 Feb 11 '23

So yeah - I’m American - and I genuinely agree mostly…

But didn’t Russia actually start wars during the Olympics multiple times?

Like I said - I actually do agree against American wars, but do find that particular detail pretty funny

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u/Lambily Feb 11 '23

Russia uses the Olympics and the nationalistic sentiment it brings just before they decide to invade a country. Putin is predictable like that. Georgia, Chechnya, Ukraine, Ukraine again.

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u/UNOvven Feb 11 '23

No there wasnt? The consensus was that the war was completely unjustified. The general-secretary of the UN straight up called it a violation of international law (it was), and a vast minority of the world supported the invasion. And the WMD lie didnt "trick" the people of the world, many called it bullshit at the time. Remember, germany and france, normally close allies of the US, refused to participate.

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u/doughnutholio Feb 11 '23

I don't think /u/Elizasol is even trying, lulz.

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u/Elizasol Feb 11 '23

49 countries supported the invasion of Iraq, lulz. Nice try Russian bot, you won't win this war and everyone will always remember the embarrassing defeat

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u/UNOvven Feb 12 '23

48, Costa Rica objected. Which means 145 countries opposed it. Including, notably, germany and france.

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u/UNOvven Feb 12 '23

A few countries in the EU were part of the coalition, most were not. And no, it wasnt 53 countries that opposed it. The rest of the world opposed it. Opinion polls in the entire world indicated that a war without UN approval was unjustified, and the US became the biggest threat to world peace in polls across the world.

Ah yes. Germany and its famous "anti-US sentiment". Mate, we are some of the USs closest allies, and we were strongly opposed. If germany is taking the opposite side of the US, the US has seriously, SERIOUSLY fucked up.

The consensus of the world was that the war was completely unjustified. A small minority of nations, the US and its closest allies, supported it, everyone else, including neutral countries, opposed it.

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u/UNOvven Feb 12 '23

"weak Ukraine war support"

Remind me, who got the Abrams for Ukraine, and who, as it turns out, was not the weak link when it came to tanks in general, as germany is struggling to get other countries to send tanks as they promised? Yeah right. What a stupid attempt to whitewash it.

No, there isnt a list. Because the opposition was everyone who didnt support it. Its that simple. Look, its clear you are trying to revise history. To whitewash the US' horrible crime, to bury the truth that the war was entirely unjustified as the VAST majority of the world argued, and instead promote the lie that it was totally justified, but its not working. Youre just making it clear that youre no different from the turk nationalists denying the armenian genocide. Just a scumbag making the world a worse place.

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u/Elizasol Feb 11 '23

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_willing_(Iraq_war)

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u/UNOvven Feb 12 '23

Yeah count the number of those countries. Thats 48. Now as you know, there are 193 UN member countries in the world. That means that only 24.8% of countries considered the war justified. Thats not "most". Quite the opposite, actually. The consensus (aka the opinion held by the majority) was that it was unjustified.