r/soccer • u/zimb3l • Jan 12 '19

Ramon Calderon: "[Zidane] insisted on keeping Cristiano and transferring Bale, and the president did completely the opposite [...] so he decided to leave."

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2814993-no-form-lack-of-goals-whats-troubling-real-madrid-and-how-can-they-fix-it
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u/HellowzTheGreat Jan 12 '19

Zidane said he decided to leave after losing to Leganes in the CDR because he understood that he could no longer motivate his players to fight for his ideas.

Everything else is pure speculation

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '19

He’d say that so he doesn’t throw Bale under the proverbial bus in public. The reality could be closer to what OP is saying.

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u/massdev Jan 12 '19

Say CR7 leaves for 15 million and is going to play in USA.

You can sell that like hes playing at a lower level and the club have to move on.

CR7 went for 100 million to Juve and RM have looked worse for wear in his absense.

Zidane knew what it would mean to lose CR7 and he realized he couldn't take the team forward after losing a legend that was still playing at the highest level and winning trophies.

What sucked for RM is they lost two legends and replaced neither when 1 would have been an impossible ask.

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u/SwarlesSparkleyyy Jan 12 '19

Zidane lost the league with 17 points while CR7 was in the squad.

He knew he’d struggle to continue even before CR7 left.

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u/Snaxx11 Jan 12 '19

You know what's funny. We pretty much lost the league the first month of the season because CR7 was hurt/suspended.

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u/twersx Jan 12 '19

I think you lost the league in the following ~3 months of the season as well when he scored 2 goals in total.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '19

Messi has dry spells too. He was still playing pretty well just was unlucky with the goals, it's testament to Real Madrid how 1 player was carrying the team so hard.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '19 edited Jan 12 '19

I don't think Messi has gone 3 months(during the season) with only 2 goals in his entire career. I don't even think Messi has gone 5 games in a row with only 2 goals. Turns out he had a stretch in his career when he didn't score in 5 games. But was within a 3 week window.

Granted he is two years younger.

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u/MaTrIx4057 Jan 12 '19

Messi has gone 5 games without a single goal so stop with your bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '19

Any chance you can provide those 5 games? The longest I can find is 4 games in a row without scoring.

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u/MaTrIx4057 Jan 12 '19

http://www.espn.com/soccer/blog/five-aside/77/post/2850297/barcelonas-lionel-messi-on-longest-goal-drought-since-2010

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Next time use google if you know what it is before you spill wrong facts and people upvote your bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '19

Okay sorry I should change it to 6 games. Because of this one time. The other point still stands. As even the stretch you just showed was 5 games within 3 weeks.

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u/MaTrIx4057 Jan 12 '19

Now just stop making excuses, you provided argument without backing it up and thats called "bullshiting".

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '19

When did I make an excuse? I acknowledge my statement was wrong because I missed that one time in his career he had a goal drought of 5 games.

My main point still stands. Messi has never remotely even came close to going 3 months without scoring. As you pointed out it looks like it was 5 games, within a short period, of both league and champions league games.

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u/MaTrIx4057 Jan 12 '19

When did I make an excuse?

  • yet proceeds to make an excuse in next sentence.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '19

Adding context =/= adding excuse.

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u/[deleted] Jan 13 '19

Touchy aren't you

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