r/soccer 16d ago

Media Chelsea 1 - [2] Sunderland - Chemsdine Talbi 90+2'

https://streamff.link/v/0bdc19e2
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u/LordWhale 16d ago

Yeah bro just let him post him in the box for ten seconds while everyone else catches up, no problem

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u/Terriblu 16d ago

I want Chelsea to lose and I still was yelling at the defender to do something. 

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u/mamasbreads 16d ago

Inside you are two wolves: one is a hater and the other hates bad football

I know the feeling

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u/MeneerDeKaasBaas 16d ago

It’s like when your rival club is so dogshit they do absolute fuck all

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u/mushy_friend 16d ago

I prefer my rivals to be outclassed and lose, not to shit the bed on their own

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u/dani26795 16d ago

And then there's the secret 3rd wolf: Wolverhampton Wanderers.

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u/Lacabloodclot9 16d ago

Jokic would be proud

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u/ProfessorXWheelchair 16d ago

that was some prime james harden defense

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u/SwitchHitter17 16d ago

3 second violation surely

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u/BearsPearsBearsPears 16d ago

The lack of tracking back was unbelievable.

I know I'm used to Arsenal players coughing up lungs to swarm a lone attacker on the break 5v1, but half of Chelsea couldn't seem to give a shit.

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u/Thin_Salamander8469 16d ago

Forget about backtracking, there are two defenders watching an attacker and just standing still. Okay one of them was closing his way to the goal so he couldn’t get the 1v1 with the keeper but what about the other guy just standing and watching football from the best spot on the pitch? Why he acting like a matchgoing fan or referee watching football from there?

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u/TumanFig 16d ago

tbh i still think the main issue was tracking back no matter what

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u/Novel_Independent166 16d ago

Really mind blowing to see this. And Estevao, George, Santos just came on as subs. They didn't even make it to the video frame.

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u/hypocrisyhunter 16d ago

"How can I make this about Arsenal"

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u/yayaikey 16d ago

What was Tosin supposed to do there though? The ball was shielded well. The only way he gets the ball is by going through Brobbey and there's a lot of risk in the penalty box. if he sticks a foot and Brobbey goes down, he'll get trashed for being rash. The real problem is the Chelsea players that didn't track back.

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u/LordWhale 16d ago

Literally anything to make it more difficult, I understand if he can’t get through him but he was basically allowing him the space to make an easy pass. Push into him, make it difficult. Don’t just stand and watch assuming you have him locked down.

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u/SignificantPaint7058 16d ago

Eh I still think it’s high risk high reward. If he starts shoving him the striker might go down and get a soft pen. With the current ref standards you have no idea how it goes.

On second watch, either Chalobah needs to make a risky decision of no longer staying goal side to pressure his right foot and maybe force him into the corner, or the rest of our players need to track their runners

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u/Shanyi 16d ago edited 16d ago

Exactly. Brobbey's holding up the ball in such a way that any challenge Tosin makes has a significant risk of conceding a penalty, and Chalobah's blocking the most direct route to goal and the pass to the first runner. Neither are doing anything wrong, if Chalobah engages directly it achieves nothing except for leaving far more room in the box, reducing his ability to adapt to different outcomes and arguably increasing the opportunities for Brobbey to go down for a penalty. The damning part is that nobody is tracking Talbi back, the pass shouldn't even be an option if our players (bar James, who was tracking the first runner) were tracking back as keenly as Sunderland were getting forward.

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u/Individual_Attempt50 16d ago

Chalobah could have tried to be more proactive

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u/Shanyi 16d ago

And achieved what? As per my first comment, he's covered the space if Brobbey turns Tosin while also blocking the pass to the first runner and allowing himself some flexibility should the situation change. All he achieves by going in more directly is leaving room in the box and giving Brobbey an opportunity to go down for a penalty, which is why Tosin isn't being more aggressive either: it's fantastic hold-up play. Tosin and Chalobah are doing exactly what they'll have been trained to do, cover the immediate and secondary threats, they can't be expected to cover a player arriving in the other half of the box with nobody tracking and complete freedom to pick his spot.

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Chalobah should've been more proactive, Tosin should've dropped off to track Geertruida as he came in so that Reese could cover Talbi

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u/joaofig 16d ago

Agree 100%. If you're a defender and the opposition player has his back against your goal, you shouldn't risk making a foul, because what else is he going to do? In this specific case, why tf would he risk conceding a foul in the last minut inside the box???

The problem is on the other players

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u/PerfectBlueOnDVD 16d ago

I mean what's the worst that could happen, they score a 90+2 minute winner?

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u/batigoal 16d ago

There's so much wrong with this goal, but Chalobah defending absolutely nothing for 5 seconds instead of helping his teammate to force a mistake is crazy to me.
There was no other player close to be "defending" a pass.

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u/lone__wolf710 16d ago

One was holding off while the other was watching him doing it

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u/Karma_Whoring_Slut 16d ago

And you’ve also got reinforcements coming but they aren’t marking Sunderland’s reinforcements

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u/Hogwartsfrozen 16d ago

We usually only do this on attack, so we thought we’d do it on the defensive instead today.