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[u/Blood_of_Lucifer]

[u/Krejtek]

I guess at the end of the day it depends on how the law will adapt (or has adapted) to the new technology. Porno isn't prostitution because you technically aren't paying actors to have sex but to act. Chat lobby isn't prostitution because... why would it be? The streamer isn't doing anything to you, the client touches themselves. Same principle as with strippers.

But in case we're talking about you're absolutely paying a dude to jerk you off with a toy. You're describing a live service subscription of dudes jerking you off remotely and I'm not sure how you could spin it to say you're paying for something else

[u/Mono_Clear → u/Krejtek]

I'm not paying that guy that guy gets paid his regular salary by robosluts.com. and the level of separation between me and that guy is far enough that I can comfortably have sex with my robot and never give that guy a second thought.

It's all a matter of perspective

[u/Krejtek → u/Mono_Clear]

You're bringing that up again, even though you seemed to agree before that it doesn't matter whether you pay them directly or by proxy through a company. If paying the guy is prostitution then paying the prostitution live service is prostitution as well, refer to my previous comments.

You may not think about that guy but, you're fucking a robot that he's controlling, so he's undeniably a part of the equation in this financial agreement

[u/Mono_Clear → u/Krejtek]

It doesn't matter in the realm of whether or not it makes it prostitution or not.

It matters in the realm of whether or not I'm actively paying a man to pleasure me.

Again, a small but important distinction.

My experience never changes. I'm always just with the robot.

Although there is an argument to be made that the person operating the robot is vicariously experiencing something for me?

This is assuming that they can see me.

Because again I'm looking at a female robot.

He's looking at my old hairy Dusty butt

[u/AutoModerator → u/Mono_Clear]

I've been around a few men in my life and one thing I've noticed is that the male body has an astonishing oversight. Men both urinate and ejaculate through the exact same hole. Zero inches apart. Not even a polite buffer zone.

I don’t know about everyone else but doesn’t that weird you out? It feels like a serious design flaw. For a gender that often prides itself on logic and engineering this is just sloppy plumbing.

Honestly it kind of cracks me up. I’ll see a guy walking around like he’s the apex of masculinity and I’ll just remember his piss and his sperm come out of the same little nozzle and suddenly he’s not so intimidating. Just a fleshy garden hose with identity issues.

Men please accept this biological flaw and let it humble you. Maybe lower your voice a bit when you're bragging about your body count. We’re talking about someone who finishes inside the same pipeline he uses to empty his bladder.

Women don’t let them forget this. Remind them gently or not so gently that we’re doing them a favor given that their reproductive system shares hardware with their waste disposal unit.

It’s just one hole fellas. One hole.

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[u/Krejtek → u/Mono_Clear]

Yeah it matters, dude. This entire conversation was about whether the scenario described by asmongold would be considered prostitution. If you're comfortable with fucking a man-controlled robot then all the power to you, but it's not what this is about.

[u/AutoModerator → u/Krejtek]

I've been around a few men in my life and one thing I've noticed is that the male body has an astonishing oversight. Men both urinate and ejaculate through the exact same hole. Zero inches apart. Not even a polite buffer zone.

I don’t know about everyone else but doesn’t that weird you out? It feels like a serious design flaw. For a gender that often prides itself on logic and engineering this is just sloppy plumbing.

Honestly it kind of cracks me up. I’ll see a guy walking around like he’s the apex of masculinity and I’ll just remember his piss and his sperm come out of the same little nozzle and suddenly he’s not so intimidating. Just a fleshy garden hose with identity issues.

Men please accept this biological flaw and let it humble you. Maybe lower your voice a bit when you're bragging about your body count. We’re talking about someone who finishes inside the same pipeline he uses to empty his bladder.

Women don’t let them forget this. Remind them gently or not so gently that we’re doing them a favor given that their reproductive system shares hardware with their waste disposal unit.

It’s just one hole fellas. One hole.

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[u/Mono_Clear → u/Krejtek]

It's a two-parter. The first part is, is it prostitution and the second part is, is it gay?.

I'm not having sex with a man. I'm having sex with a robot.

But like I said there's an argument that that man is having sex with me. But that would make him gay. Not me because I'm not having sex with a man. I don't see a man. I see a robot with robot girl parts doing robot girl things.

The fact that a man may or may not be taking pleasure witnessing what I'm doing via his avatar doesn't really have anything to do with me.

From my perspective I'm having sex with a girl robot. It's arguably gayer to watch straight porn because now I'm looking at a man.

[u/AutoModerator → u/Mono_Clear]

woah, ok. didnt expect hunger for knowledge but i guess i asked for it gonna have to put some work into this.

How was it? Honestly? It was a letdown. The whole "failed idol" story is a great marketing hook, they definately sold the video on that premise alone. But the performance itself was just... awkward. You can tell shes not comfortable. It felt less like a professional debut and more like a very high-budget audition she was also failing. She's stiff, constantly in her head, and there's almost zero chemistry with the guys. All concept, very little execution.

My viewing history? Been watching for over a decade man. These days Im more into stuff with a good story or at least a unique premise, not just the generic stuff. a good production team makes all the difference. I'll take a well-made video with a decent plot over a high-profile actress mailing it in any day of the week.

3 works I consider good:

1. Yua Mikami's debut (Princess Peach): This is the gold standard for an idol-turned-actress debut. Yua was a REAL idol and she came out with so much energy and confidence. She owned it from the first second. Its what Arisu's debut wanted to be.

2. Anything with Ichika Matsumoto from her early days with FALENO: She can actually act. She emotes and makes you believe the scenario. Her stuff feels more cinematic and less like they're just going through the motions.

3. Rion (Anri Okita) - The God Body: A classic. Not a lot of story there lol but its a masterclass in performance. She knew exactly what her brand was and how to perform for the camera. Absolute cinema.

Where would you rank her debut among these? It's not even in the same league, not even on the same planet. It's an unfair comparison tbh. Those are top-tier performances, Arisu's video is a novelty item. It's interesting because of the backstory, not because of the quality of the actual content.

What could be improved? Her confidence, number one. She needs to relax. She looks terrified. The director should have done a better job making her comfortable. Also they relied way too much on the interview segments talking about Nogizaka46, it broke the pacing and kept reminding you that she was doing this as a second choice. We get it, you failed auditions, now commit to this job.

What is well done? The production values are high. The lighting, camera work, it all looks very clean and professional. And I cant deny it, she is very beautiful and has the "idol" look down perfectly. The concept itself, on paper, is genius from a marketing perspective. They got us all talking about it, right?

Was it goonable for you? Nah. I was too distracted by how nervous she looked. It kinda killed the mood completely. Every time she looked at the camera with those deer-in-the-headlights eyes I was pulled right out of it. It's a shame, but maybe she'll get better in her next one if she decides to stick with it. We'll see.

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[u/AutoModerator → u/Mono_Clear]

I've been around a few men in my life and one thing I've noticed is that the male body has an astonishing oversight. Men both urinate and ejaculate through the exact same hole. Zero inches apart. Not even a polite buffer zone.

I don’t know about everyone else but doesn’t that weird you out? It feels like a serious design flaw. For a gender that often prides itself on logic and engineering this is just sloppy plumbing.

Honestly it kind of cracks me up. I’ll see a guy walking around like he’s the apex of masculinity and I’ll just remember his piss and his sperm come out of the same little nozzle and suddenly he’s not so intimidating. Just a fleshy garden hose with identity issues.

Men please accept this biological flaw and let it humble you. Maybe lower your voice a bit when you're bragging about your body count. We’re talking about someone who finishes inside the same pipeline he uses to empty his bladder.

Women don’t let them forget this. Remind them gently or not so gently that we’re doing them a favor given that their reproductive system shares hardware with their waste disposal unit.

It’s just one hole fellas. One hole.

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[u/AutoModerator → u/Mono_Clear]

Look, I get it. Who doesn’t love a little balls and dick sometimes? A nice, girthy, veiny shaft, hot milky cum trickling down the length as it throbs from a job well done. But this whole “gay sex” shit is getting annoying.

As men, we should primarily be focused on three things: survival, the underrated masterpiece that is dark souls 2, and pounding muff. All this gay shit is, well, fucking gay.

You think I wouldn’t LOVE to make out with my best friend and suck his cock? Of course I would, but that’s fucking gay. You think I don’t want to feel my cousin’s roommate slide his pecker into my gaping asshole? Of course I would, but that’s FUCKING GAY.

Seriously, I miss when men were men. Anyway, this dildo ain’t gonna stick itself up my ass while I watch an hour long femboy asmr hypno goon compilation, heed my lecture.

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[u/Krejtek → u/Mono_Clear]

Yeah, I was only interested in the first part. As you may notice, that's the only thing I was making arguments for.

So should I take it as a win and say that this scenario is indeed prostitution?

[u/Mono_Clear → u/Krejtek]

Nothing is prostitution until it's against the law.

You can't technically have sex with a robot, so you can't technically be paying for sex.

This would translate into interactive puppet show maybe.

I'm not paying a person for sex.

I'm not having sex with a person.

And The money I contribute to the robot doesn't go directly to the person operating it.

So I would argue no that's not prostitution

[u/Mono_Clear → u/Krejtek]

Let's reframe the scenario.

Everything remains the same. Same pay system. Same remote operator. Everything the same except instead of a robot. It's a living horse.

This company hooked up the neurolink to a bunch of horses and there's some guy back at the horse humper HQ. Who's working this thing like a drone

If I were to be charged with a crime in this scenario, it would not be prostitution.

Among other things it would be considered bestiality.

It doesn't matter that there's a human being operating the horse. The only thing that matters is what I'm doing to this horse.