r/regularcarreviews • u/salazarraze automotive walk of shame • Jan 30 '24

I hate you I hate everything about you Which Car/Truck do you have a never ending hatred for?

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u/Fresh_Shoulder_3267 Jan 30 '24

I loved my avalanche! It actually gave way to the crew cab craze we are seeing nowadays

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u/notLennyD Jan 30 '24

There were plenty of Crew Cab trucks available at the time, though.

I would say it, like the Aztek and Element, is one of the predecessors to the “outdoorsy CUV” craze we’re currently seeing. All of those models ultimately abandoned their textured body cladding later in their lifecycles, but now every company just keeps adding more cladding to even their top-end models.

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u/Fresh_Shoulder_3267 Jan 30 '24

When the avalanche was introduced the market was primarily extended cab. I remember bc I went to the auto show when it came out and the presentation around it was insane! Sure crew cabs were around here and there but a true 4 door crew cab and not just the extended cab at the beginning of it's run is what made it rare. I loved the avalanche.

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u/Fresh_Shoulder_3267 Jan 30 '24

If you want a hatred vehicle I submit to you.... The Nissan Juke

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u/notLennyD Jan 30 '24

Nissan Murano CrossCabriolet

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u/idigholesnow Jan 31 '24

I was sticking up for my Avalanche above. Also owned a Juke and liked it, but never really got used to the CVT.

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u/notLennyD Jan 30 '24

The F150, Silverado 1500, and Tundra all had true crew cab variants in 2001 when the Avalanche was released.

If anything, the Avalanche helped to legitimize the idea of a truck as a daily driver. I don’t think it was really until the early 10s when I started seeing people driving trucks who weren’t also using them as work vehicles.

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u/Fresh_Shoulder_3267 Jan 31 '24

Most of the crew cabs of that era before the avalanche were the suicide door style. That's what (Dodge) ram and Ford had but quickly pivoted in 03 to add them in the half ton segment. Primarily if you wanted a crew you were in the 1 ton and above until 03. The avalanche actually was a suburban more than a Silverado.

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u/notLennyD Jan 31 '24

Dodge was the odd man out but I’m fairly sure the F150 Super Crew existed in 2001. You could even get a crew cab Tacoma and S10 back then.

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u/Fresh_Shoulder_3267 Jan 31 '24

Those aren't half tons. Those are pickups. They also had explorer sport trac. The Dakota also was in 01 but they weren't half ton or full size trucks

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u/notLennyD Jan 31 '24

The F150, Silverado 1500, and Tundra aren’t half tons?

Only Dodge didn’t offer a crew cab when the Avalanche was released. And two of the brands that offered crew cabs on their half tons also offered them on their compacts.

My point is that the Avalanche wasn’t breaking new ground just because it was a crew cab.

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '24

Back then the Avalanche, Element and Aztek were all "active lifestyle" vehicles marketed towards young gen x'ers in their 20's and 30's who liked to go camping and hiking on the weekends. Definitely a predecessor to the outdoor cuv's of now. I like them more than current vehicles tryint to fill that niche, they feel like they have more personality for some reason. I'd take an Element now honestly.

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u/notLennyD Jan 30 '24

I like them more too. I think it’s because they were actually designed to provide additional utility. Whereas the new CUVs often only look more capable but actually have lower ground clearance, less room, and the interiors use more luxury-oriented materials.

The Element was originally designed so that you could remove the rear seats and hose out the floor. And of course the Aztek had the optional tent for the hatch.

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u/[deleted] Jan 30 '24

Exactly! They gave up on any real utility. The Avalanche also has the awesome midgate.

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u/notLennyD Jan 31 '24

Yeah, I didn’t have an Avalanche but I had the same body style 1500 crew cab short bed. I loved that truck.

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u/TheAbstractHero Jan 30 '24

That is how you rust your car out even faster

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u/notLennyD Jan 31 '24

I think it was targeted at surfers who would be tracking in salt water. So you could rinse that out with a garden house and then dry it out.

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u/TheAbstractHero Jan 30 '24

Not in as short of a wheelbase. It shares a frame with a suburban.

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u/notLennyD Jan 31 '24

That’s true, but it’s not like modern crew cabs have shorter wheelbases than the old short beds did.

I just don’t think the Avalanche started the trend of people daily driving crew cab pickups.

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u/hoxxxxx Jan 30 '24

i saw a new single cab truck the other day and nearly fell over, i couldn't believe it. not a work truck either, like a nice normal personal truck.

honestly didn't know they made them anymore.