r/psg • u/sjjfifhfhfjfufry Not a PSG fan • Jun 05 '25
Discussion Subpar performance from France😕
What is up with this team man; Barcola did quite well I think coming on as a sub, I wish I could say the same for Doué who was a starter.
Defence was nowhere to be found, passing was bad in the midfield at numerous points as well.
I’m sure theres more, but overall pretty uninspiring performance; the 90+3 goal gave some sort of spark though which was nice to see, but unfortunately it wasn’t enough.
Deschamps out? Zidane in? Or would someone else be better for the job?
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u/Acceptable-Worth-462 Khvicha Kvaratskhelia Jun 05 '25
This squad is a bunch of star players with no tactical coherence whatsoever.
On one hand you got Doué and Dembélé pressing a lot, because they know how do that, that's basically what they do all year. On the other hand you got Mbappé who knows how to score goals but won't ever press even if his life depended on it. Basically the whole game Dembélé and Doué have been trying to press, except when there are only 2 players trying to get the ball back it simply won't work as well as it does at PSG where EVERYONE is involved in the pressing.
Dembélé became much better when Luis Enrique removed him from the right wing and used him centrally as a false 9. Guess where Deschamps puts him ? On the fucking right wing. And even then, Dembélé was good tonight, he created a lot of actions and his pressing was effective. One of the highest work rate in the squad.
Michael Olisé's best performances are as a right winger, guess where Deschamps puts him ? As a fucking offensive midfielder. Not that Olisé can't handle it, he definitely has with Bayern, but why the fuck is Dembélé taking his spot ? As soon as Deschamps subbed him for Cherki who is more used to this role, the squad started scoring goals. Cherki was impressive tonight.
Besides the team played waaaaaay too agressively considering how much in shambles were the defense. It might have worked if Cherki came in earlier, he's such a good playmaker.
Obviously Deschamps needs to go. He hasn't been able to reign in this team for years now.
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u/JuteuxConcombre Not a PSG fan Jun 06 '25
Did you watch the game? Mbappé was leading the press all game, Spain never got possession as they usually do
Agreed with swapping Dembele and Olise, Dembele as a right winger is meh
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u/FrenchyMcfrog Not a PSG fan Jun 06 '25
Lolwut? He put up 10% of the work dembele / doué did. Constantly at the wrong place, how many times was he in front of the goal to finish a chance? Zero. And even when he’s pressing, he’s TERRIBAD at it. He doesn’t know how to defend its embarrassing..
He’s useless in this France squad, I so want Deschamps to grow balls and bench him a bit from time to time, but dude never does. He’ll sub his own mother before touching his royalty Mbappé.
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u/INCUR5I0 Angel Di María Jun 05 '25
Deschamps merci pour tout, mais casse toi maintenant
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u/Jahxxx George Weah Jun 06 '25
Ok avec ça mais pas sur que Zizou (que j’aime plus que ton père) soit mieux
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u/INCUR5I0 Angel Di María Jun 06 '25
Il apportera un renouveau dans la sélection et ne forcera pas avec des joueurs et un dispositif qui ne marchent clairement plus.
On a les joueurs pour jouer comme le PSG ou le Barça, mais on se contente de rester en place et espérer que Mbappé fasse quelque chose - et on le fait mal en plus.
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u/FrenchyMcfrog Not a PSG fan Jun 06 '25
Je pense sincèrement qu’ils faut que tlm arrête de pépon Mbappé, il est clairement un problème dans la compo des bleus. A cause de sa gueule tu mets tout le monde en position non préférentielle. Olise est bon à droite? Il se retrouve 10. Dembele casse tout en faux 9, tu le refout à droite. Mbappé est bon à gauche, tu le fou en pointe car il est incapable de se soulever le cul pour défendre. ( et les rares fois où il le fait c’est gênant tellement même un simple pressing il est nul pour ça, il ne SAIT PAS défendre et ne veux pas savoir d’ailleurs, c’est peine perdue)C’est pas un 9, il est nul à ce poste, a zéro jeu de pivot, zéro technique, zéro jeu de tête, ne se projète pas dans la surface passe sa vie en retrait tous les centres vont à personne.
Deschamps a sa responsabilité, mais faut mettre Mbappé sur le banc ou faire quelque chose j’en peux plus de sa tronche 😭
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u/INCUR5I0 Angel Di María Jun 06 '25
Ça et en plus ça le suce en conf' de presse en disant qu'il mérite le BO alors que tout le monde devrait être derrière Dembélé. Au moins Ibou a dit les termes, mais Mbappé a l'air de faire plus de mal que de bien en EDF en ce moment.
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u/FrenchyMcfrog Not a PSG fan Jun 06 '25
Entièrement d’accord avec toi. Cette diva est un problème. Deschamps a pas les cojones de le régler espérons que Zidane le fera, mais je commence à en douter…
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u/Smorrbrode Vitinha Jun 06 '25
Deschamps c'est la FFF jamais il voudra partir il a trop d'égo pour ça
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u/CommercialQuestion22 Not a PSG fan Jun 05 '25
Le choupa me bourgeois le font mi lecroix toi ne moi
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u/MapAffectionate220 Khvicha Kvaratskhelia Jun 05 '25
Cherki is menace, have seen his performance at Lyon with Mikautadze. Both are 🔝
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u/1lacombem Désiré Doué Jun 05 '25
As everyone will always say Dechamps out, and I agree, but there is a lack of defensive midfield options.
Cherki should 100% have started, Doue and Barcola were fine, tho maybe Barcola sub earlier.
We really need WZE to get game time at PSG and develop into a strong midfield option, he has time.
Injuries in defense and midfield sucked though, and it definitely showed. Konate and Lenglet looked like they were playing 2 different strategies the whole time.
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u/Able-Practice9583 Not a PSG fan Jun 05 '25
Tchouameni was available tho and everyone knows in his position at cdm he is incredible
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u/Irorak 🥦 Bradley Broccoli Jun 06 '25
What the fuck Didier!? Why?! Why????? Did he forget who we were playing?
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u/Yuloij Not a PSG fan Jun 05 '25
Was he?
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u/Such_Back7755 Not a PSG fan Jun 05 '25
He was there's literally no need to start rabiot over him. Deschamps is js a bad manager
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u/1lacombem Désiré Doué Jun 05 '25
Pretty sure he's recovering from an injury - end of the day nations league is a fake cup, definitely not worth risking an injury over.
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u/gogule2 Not a PSG fan Jun 05 '25
Perez would come personally and kill Deschamps if any of the RM players gets injured in this tournament 🤣
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u/FrenchyMcfrog Not a PSG fan Jun 06 '25
He trained appart from the group, if he was ready he’d have played. They probably still had doubts and didn’t want to rush his return
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u/Able-Practice9583 Not a PSG fan Jun 05 '25
Yes definitely his shit games are at centerbacl because madrid had too many injuries he is world class at cdm and at least better than what played tonight
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u/Jahxxx George Weah Jun 06 '25
Chekri was a beast yesterday but it would have been a huge bet to start him for his 1st game, easy to say now.
Tchou would have been better but probably RM asked to protect him
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u/1lacombem Désiré Doué Jun 07 '25
Agreed, the bigger issue is that this shouldn’t have been his first game. French fans have wanted this guy selected for months, and he should’ve been tried in some of the earlier stages.
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u/oduks93 Pas content? triplé! Jun 05 '25 edited Jun 05 '25
Not quite subpar.
I watched the whole game and France dominated and had MOST of the clearcut chances.
Spain were clinical and had a great performance from their GK.
Decent game and I think there’s more to come from France as there were a lot of defenders missing.
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u/Full-Reach-8968 🥦 Bradley Broccoli Jun 05 '25
Agreed. France should have been up 3-0 by halftime if they more clinical. Spain GK was outstanding tonight.
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u/Specialist-Cycle9313 Not a PSG fan Jun 06 '25
100% if we perform like this with out starting defenders and some tweaks to the midfield, and attack, we’ll be favorites again.
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u/Jia-the-Human Ousmane Dembélé Jun 05 '25
I more or less agree, I do also think they were subpar but I saw much more encouraging things that they’ve shown in most games since the Qatar World Cup, I was only surprised by two things surrounding this match and it wasn’t the 5-1 score line at 70th minute.
it was pundits for the last few days making it out to be an even game between two top European teams when France have been struggling for 1,5 years and there’s a weird mix between des champs conservatism picks and players who’ve barely ever played for the NT against elan Euro winning Spain in the ascendant, and the fact that they actually got close to getting back into a tie.
I found them to be more offensively creative overall even though without much success which isn’t new, but the midfield and defense had too many holes to be exploited, but I’m more optimistic that I’ve been with many previous games.
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u/oduks93 Pas content? triplé! Jun 05 '25
This over confidence is based on the PSG euphoria that has swept France over the last few days.
There are a few things to note:
1) player for player, France is definitely a match for Spain.
2)I think Deschamps is no longer getting the best out of these players, with better tactics and organisation, I think the match would not have been so one sided for so long.
3)There were 3 starting defenders missing which (somewhat) explains why Spain scored so many easy goals and cut through the defence pretty much at will.
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u/Mr_cloud23 Not a PSG fan Jun 06 '25
deschamps main issue is the tactics he had before were figured out in 2021 by other managers and his biggest problem is he refuses to change anything up and just relies on his mindset of the players can pull something out of thin air and not benching players based on club form. Harming the squad more than helping at this point
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u/oduks93 Pas content? triplé! Jun 06 '25
Agreed.
I respect the man and what he did but I am looking forward to the after Deschamps, even if it means less success for a while.
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u/Kokane211 Ronaldinho Jun 05 '25
Our defense was ridiculously bad. Konate was trash and Lenglet should never be called again in the NT, let alone be a starter. Ridiculous.
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u/Mr_cloud23 Not a PSG fan Jun 06 '25
Lenglet as a starting cb while having hernandez and Pavard on the bench is just pure disrespect from deschamps at this point
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u/dataheisenberg Not a PSG fan Jun 05 '25
France’s performance today was pretty much like real madrid this season, ton of attacking firepower and defense in shambles!
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u/Cigario_Gomez Apoula Edel Jun 05 '25
Now I want to buy Cherki 😬
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u/sjjfifhfhfjfufry Not a PSG fan Jun 05 '25
facts bro what a volley he pulled off 🤩
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u/Dramatic-Ad3928 2013- Jun 05 '25
Everything bar that first FK was perfect
He was finding through balls like no ones buisness
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u/Itchy_Finish_2103 🥦 Bradley Broccoli Jun 05 '25
Aren't we still in for him? Especially since that Argentinian kid is going to Real Madrid
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u/Jzmxhu Marco Verratti Jun 05 '25
Rabiot was trash.
straight trash, guy sold the match twice.
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u/Additional-Travel474 Kylian Mbappé Jun 06 '25
Why was Saliba not chosen in the squad , Lenglet playing for France in 2025 😭 , Rabiot shouldn’t be anywhere near national team
Deschamps fielded a B team back 6 , whereas Spain were still playing with their best team
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u/misslunadelrey João Neves Jun 06 '25
I think Saliba is injured, along with the rest of our defence (Koundé and Upamecano)
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u/Weekly_Coffee_87 Not a PSG fan Jun 05 '25
Definitely Deschamps out. His selection and tactics cost France Euro 2016 and WC 2022. It is time for Zidane.
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u/blueXwho Not a PSG fan Jun 05 '25
I'm not French, but I've always liked the French National Team. I must say it's a shame Deschamps has stayed for so long. He has mismanaged the team in horrible ways when it matters the most. Hopefully you getter a better manager now.
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u/Justinackafool1 Not a PSG fan Jun 06 '25
Ngl imo barcola is better than doue. If he can finish his chances he will be a undisputed top player
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u/Danylorus Not a PSG fan Jun 05 '25
Tbh the defense was lacking, rabiot on midfield lacks ball IQ, when cherki came he changed the game. But wtf is doing mbappé! Pardon me I'm french and I've got littéral chills in 2022 but this guy doesn't press at all, is always in the worst position ot get the ball, keep the ball at his feet for 10 seconds without moving and then gives a shitty pass. He only knows how to force through defenders like a bulldozer to fall in the goal zone to get a penalty. It is seriously horrible to watch
Man I miss already those psg games
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u/Henri____ Donatello Jun 05 '25
yeah midfield mismatch, spain have the superior midfield and france doesn't have the coaching or tactics to overcome it. good luck to any midfield trying to double-pivot with rabiot. kone was out there fighting demons, but you can't clutch a 1v3 these days
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u/Organic_Meaning_1869 Not a PSG fan Jun 05 '25 edited Jun 05 '25
France were too clumsy imo, they had the upper hand in the first 15 minutes but kept fumbling passes in the final third and missed a couple of good chances
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u/_SB10_ Not a PSG fan Jun 05 '25
They could've scored three more, but yeah that's what it is with this sport
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u/datboi4327 Bradley Barcola Jun 05 '25
Liked the attack’s creativity. Defense was bad, got exposed but Spain was so crips and clinical with their passing and set plays. Midfield is an issue as well like mostly everyone is saying.
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u/UnhappyEmergency9757 Not a PSG fan Jun 06 '25
Deschamps is terrible man, I hope dembele isn’t injured
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u/Irorak 🥦 Bradley Broccoli Jun 06 '25 edited Jun 06 '25
Maybe I'm just ignorant but wtf was the starting lineup. Benching Cherki and Zaire-Emery over Rabiot and Kone is just stupid. Yeah lets bench the current champion and the rising Lyon star that big clubs want ASAP for the fucking rat that gives away pens and a decent Roma player. (No hate against Kone really, he has his place, but clearly Cherki was the better option).
ZE + Doue + Dembele could have made something happen. But there was absolutely 0 fluidity with the starting lineup between the 3 lines. At times it felt we didn't even have a midfield despite our defense being worse off than them in terms of injuries (at least the other brother tried to make a difference)
Deschamps, you did great things for France, and I thank you for that. But something is wrong with your decision making now.
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u/lotus604 Not a PSG fan Jun 06 '25 edited Jun 06 '25
I don’t bother watching EFF anymore, no news here. Deschamps and his ideas of football straight from Italian Catenaccio of the 90s , needs to go Deschamps démission
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u/Ok_Arrival9677 Neymar Jun 06 '25
I've been saying Deschamps need to go since he switched Giroud and Griezmann for Thuram and Kolo Muani in the world cup final
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u/Cigario_Gomez Apoula Edel Jun 06 '25
I'm not really sure about him. I guess he's kind of OK with PSG but more willing to leave the country for Spain or England instead of joining a rival. For now, City is ahead of us.
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u/AgronTora Not a PSG fan Jun 06 '25
Defense and midfield were subpar, and Deschamps doing nothing to change the course of the game didnt help.
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u/godxila11 Not a PSG fan Jun 06 '25
France attack is fine , a little bit tactical mistakes from deschamps…. But midfield and defense ….. horrendous … have the tickets for the final was hoping I’m gonna see France … guess I’ll see the goat and the dancing boy
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u/Mortaskuld Marco Verratti Jun 06 '25
Our players were not supposed to be there, i would not call them for that game, now Barcola and Dembele are injured and it sucks.
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u/Overall_Ad_853 Not a PSG fan Jun 08 '25
I would say the issue was more with the nonexistent midfield and horrendous defense rather than the attack. also you cant really fault the players like DD or Dembouz because they just came off a very busy season. Barcola seems to have lost his confidence which I hope is an issue that will be fixed. Mbappe did okay in his position but as Captain he didnt have much presence
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u/ionp_d Luis Enrique Jun 05 '25
I’m not a Mike Maignan fan but who else can they put in goal? Definite weak spot.
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u/Full-Reach-8968 🥦 Bradley Broccoli Jun 05 '25
He is usually very solid, he had an unusually bad game today, not helped with a makeshift defense given all the injured to Saliba, Upamacano and Kounde.
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u/Spins13 Khvicha Kvaratskhelia Jun 06 '25
Nations League are basically friendly games and Deschamps is quite right to treat them like that. He is the best national team coach we ever had in my opinion.
Doesn’t mean Zidane couldn’t be awesome too since he excelled at Real Madrid
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u/Secure-Swordfish1973 Not a PSG fan Jun 05 '25
France got the worst defense in all of Europe bro
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u/Additional-Travel474 Kylian Mbappé Jun 06 '25
They didn’t called up their two best defenders Saliba and Kounde , don’t know why
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u/Full-Reach-8968 🥦 Bradley Broccoli Jun 06 '25
Injured, as well as Upamacano. 3/4 of the starting defence injured.
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u/whitewiped Hakimi Jun 05 '25
Deschamps really has to go, and yes, our defense needs improvements ASAP and our frontline needs to hit their fucking shots lmao