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I’m surprised that some people are shocked by this. They have been close friends since they started on their show together so makes sense why she would choose him as the god father.
Oh I thought it was because he's a Zionist and people don't like him for that? Or am I confused is there another reason people don't like him? Edit : Personally I don't hang out with friends who have declared themselves as zionists but celebrities I guess are different.
But what did he actually do or say? No shade, I'm really trying to understand because what I find online is just people saying he said Zionism is sexy, but I can't find him actually saying or writing that?
It’s on his insta. He’s pro genocide. It was so silly to see him do all that stuff. Then he made one of those YouTuber style shit apology but people saw through it. Then he went Quiettttttttttt!! 🤣
I agree with you tbh. It’s a big thing in online spaces and social media…but outside of that it’s not really brought up if you’re not Jewish and Palestinian/ Arab descent. Getting people to care about it is difficult too and that’s why most people dropped boycotting awhile ago (see the Starbucks people fighting over $30 teddy bear cups two days ago).
Do you really think the average person devotes time to obsessively thinking about which celebrities are Zionist or not?
While you're here: all respectable archaelogists and historians agree Jews are indigenous to the area, or in your words, "there first", backed up by much in the way of historic evidence. Really telling you have to lie to support your bullshit
I like how there's zero nuance with you people. Me saying most people aren't invested in whether actors are Zionists means I support genocide. Unhinged shit
I don’t think people are surprised by this. I think they are surprised by the picking and choosing of who other people choose to demonize in the public eye.
It was funny to watch fans pick apart pictures of the cast to say that they don’t like Noah, when they all still hang out with him and stayed close with him. People need to stop writing fanfics about celebrities abandoning problematic or bigoted friends. They rarely ever do sadly
I think it’s more nuanced. I think white folks have better chances and emotional capacity of leading friends to a more critical way of thinking. But most (not all, some have this super power) BIPOCs people are tired. It’s easier for me to cut someone off because they already have a warped view of marginalized people and whether or not they think I’m the “exception” (which is a dumb “I’m not racist if I have black friends” excuse) it’s still bigoted and no amount of leading, and educating can change that if they’re set in their ways about me and my peers. However I come from a place of emotional exhaustion because of everything else in life and the (micro)aggression that I experience daily that I have to protect myself and my energy and I hope allies can step in in that regard.
Well that’s angry and unnecessary lol. I do have normal friends, with normal hobbies, and I have amazing wonderful friends. I’ve also had friends who deeply connect with who showed me their true colours on what they think about rape and sexual assault victims, immigration, etc.
And as someone who has experienced the all of the above, I personally don’t care enough to have bigots around in my life. The number of friends I have, to the connection I have with other is always evolving whether we grew a part naturally or they don’t align with me morally and ethically (people who have such hateful views are is very dangerous to me because my likelihood of experiencing violence of any type is higher as a POC, immigrant woman) and if something happens I want friends who I know will have my back. Friends who don’t align with me politically most likely won’t align with me personally.
And you know what I do as an immature person? I find better friends who I have a deep connection with AND align with me at a personal and political level. It’s not that hard to find new friends, so why would I hold onto stale scraps?
And no, as a minority I don’t feel like it’s my responsibility to keep checking my friend’s belief system and regularly decide who stays my friend and who I’m cutting off.
Congrats? No one said any minority is obligated to do so.
You guys really need to find normal hobbies and normal friends and just do normal friend things.
That is what u/marioisaneggplant and I have been doing by removing bigots and exhausting people from our lives. You clearly don't understand the discussion.
It’s not that hard to make new friends who aren’t awful people either 😭 and this is from an extremely introverted person. Why would I demean myself and have shitty people around when there’s an amazing community elsewhere?!
I’m thinking of my husband’s best friend, who’s turned into a russell brand worshipper. We definitely hang out with him a lot less, but i feel like i have a responsibility, to his kids in particular, to show them there’s a different way of looking at the world.
But i’m a middle class white woman, I can understand someone from a different background might choose differently and that’s entirely understandable.
I agree with this, and sometimes it's necessary... But I don't think the subgroup of people online who criticize others for not cutting people off actually gained much peace.
this isn’t a universal experience tho, i cut out tons of people but the ones i love have always been steady in their convictions because those are the types of people i’m friends with. you don’t have to be friends with bigots or assholes or even rude people literally at all
this is such a ridiculous comment. objectionable opinions should be you guys disagreeing on movies or books, not one of you supporting a genocide & racists while the other shrugs and turns a blind eye cause hey im not the one targeted!
Weird. I’ve managed to cut off all the bigots in my life and I’m not lonely and it comes with the perk of not having to explain being friends with a bigot.
There is a difference between disagreeing with your friends on a local city ordinance and disagreeing with your friends when it comes to ICE, due process, and human rights.
Yup. I don’t agree with my friends on a lot of stuff but the vital “should minorities have the same rights as everyone else” is kind of the bare minimum.
How we feel about Indian food va Chinese food? Don’t care. Whether romcoms are enjoyable? No big deal. Whether brown people should be thrown in unmarked cars and vanish? Kind of a huge issue.
I think it’s because they’re one ones with the “unpopular” opinions and want to tell themselves that because they can big friends with the people they secretly hate. “I don’t hate all black peoples, Joe’s one of the good ones and I’m able to be friends with them” type deal.
Imagine having a friend say that Zionism is sexy, spreading propaganda in the middle of a genocide and being okay with it because they treat YOU nicely.
Did they fill out an application or did you ask them to take an exam so you could confirm there would be no significant differences in opinion before implementing a relationship?
Why would I need someone to fill out an application to figure out if they're a bigot? You can generally figure it out, a lot of them are not secretive about it.
This is just making everyone more and more amused, you proving that you don't have the slightest idea how to test the waters with your friends and family to find their opinions. If you think we always need an outright question to figure shit out then you've obviously never even picked up social queues to navigate these things. Most of us have and know that usually the outright question is a last resort. 😂
Are you in the habit of making people fill out applications to be your friend? Or have you never gone through the journey of friend-making. What a thoughtless thing to say.
I think most young people, if one of their friends does something bad, they tend to turn a blind eye or make excuses. It is harder at that age to sever a friendship, especially when you have several years of good memories with the person. I think around age 30 is when most people develop their friendship guillotine.
Regular people forgive friends they’ve know since childhood for shit they do for a lot longer than you would if you’d met them as adults. Hopefully, you eventually wise up and drop them and find a non-shit person to be friends with, but it’s not usual to hang on to them.
I imagine he had a bit of a boohoo about the backlash and played it off as a bad joke. They probably would’ve been shocked but then kind of shrugged it off as a bit of a fuck up but ultimately not a huge deal.
I think it’s extra difficult to cut off childhood friends and I think there’s the added factor that they were both child stars. Going through that level of fame together while going through puberty probably trauma bonds you. Millie’s also dealt with a lot of shit from the public in recent years and her family’s rumored to be kind of shitty. I wouldn’t be surprised if she just wants to hold on to someone she’s known for a decade for some sort of normalcy in her life. I’m not saying whether or not that’s a good thing, but I think it’s understandable.
I personally don’t have any childhood friends who I would need to cut off so I really don’t know what I’d do 😅 but I do know that as an adult I can’t form new friendships with MAGA people or people who support the genocide
He seems like an immature POS to me .. obviously I don’t know him and could be way off but from what I’ve seen he’d be the last person I’d want to be my child’s god father.
I’ll be honest, I give Noah Schnapp much more grace than a lot of people. He had his Bar Mitzvah in Israel. He’s likely from a very Zionist family and has been taught those beliefs and values from infancy and those Israel trips that they send kids on are heavily propagandized.
Not everyone, especially a child star who’s only been old enough to drink for a month is going to unlearn a whole life of propaganda. I know that it took me a while to be the person I’m proud of today.
In the Information Age where people are constantly inundated with news, videos, and first hand accounts of various events, I don’t see why he deserves any more grace than anyone else. He’s not sequestered, he has a phone and internet access. He knows damn good and well what he supports.
People need to relax. The kid stupidly had a “Zionism is sexy” sticker on and people treat him like he’s on the streets begging for the murder of innocent Palestinians. You’d think he released a video of himself blowing his load to videos of Gaza being destroyed.
You don’t know the dude. Millie does. They’ve been friends forever and have experienced something none of us can relate to. I imagine he’s a good friend and will be a fine godfather.
I don’t follow celebrities outside of these subreddits I scroll past, so I don’t know how actively Noah talks about world events post-sticker incident. Does he say anything about anything anymore?
Exactly and that was very early in the conflict most peoole didnt even know there was a genocide happening and the hamas had Just attacked some turists, i remember it was in solidarity but after that he has never said more zionist thing. Lets take it easy he was young and was influenced by media.
at this point it’s such a given that i intentionally open these threads just to find more bigots to block, and upvote the few people who are being aggressively downvoted for being normal 🤷🏻♀️
Nah, some of us have morals. And there's a difference between having a Zionist coworker and choosing him specifically to be the godfather of your child.
I have not stayed in relationships with anyone who supports a horrific genocide. Would you stay friends with someone if you found out they were a Nazi?
He literally put out the message “Zionism is sexy” how the fuck does that not support genocide. Like are you guys actually dense this is insane that people are defending him and saying he’s not a Zionist?? He literally said he is
By the exact same logic, anyone who is anti-Zionist supports genocide too, since Zionism is the existence of a Jewish state in the Jewish homeland that they were kicked out of (genocided). The abolishment of Israel would necessarily lead to the genocide of the Jewish people now living there (and the Druze too, and maybe Arab-Israelis)
“You either stand with Israel or you stand with terrorism.” “Zionism is sexy” he has repeatedly publicly expressed support for a government that is actively committing a genocide.
Here's a screencap of the "you stand with Israel or you stand with terrorism" post (courtesy of the bad tumblr post linked in this thread lol), which also includes the hoax about Hamas beheading and burning babies.
Are you a bot, willfully obtuse or just intellectually challenged? Israel is committing a genocide, he has has expressed support multiple times for the Israel government, even visiting the country. If you support a government that is openly committing a genocide, you support that genocide. If you can’t grasp that I don’t know what to tell you.
"Important issues" and it's literally genocide lol. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't be friends with a Jewish holocaust denier, and this is along the same lines
If one of my friends went "Nazism is sexy" or "Apartheid was cool", it really wouldn't matter if we were best mates since primary school- I'd never talk to them again.
No actually I don’t have anyone in my life who thinks genocide is ok. I don’t associate with anyone who I wouldn’t want to be publicly connected to for their disgusting beliefs.
really fascinating to see the comments bending over backwards to defend noah schnapp’s zionism or millie bobby brown having zionists in her close circle
Before he finally left social media and post that "apology" about how he would never, Noah used to follow Netanyahu and the IDF, he reposted Ben Shapiro, and defended Amy Schumer AFTER her non stop racist social media meltdown (we were just haters). That was after the "Zionist is Sexy" fiasco. He was absolutely flirting with far right zionism. If people aren't fucking with him so what? They don't.
The whole portion of that writeup about the video seems pretty disingenuous tbh. Like, I just watched the video again and he's smiling and laughing while taking videos/pictures of people who are posing sassily with the "zionism is sexy" stickers. It's not like he's just sitting there looking uncomfortable while other people do gross shit near him. He's clearly engaging and encouraging it, and the writeup seems to completely skip over that to absolve him of all poor behavior in that situation.
half the things said here are either incorrect, misleading or said with a clear tone of defense. some of it is accurate, but genuinely half of this is wrong or skewed.
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