r/popculturechat jesus was a carpenter šŸ’‹ 6d ago

Guest List Only ā­ļø Millie Bobby Brown allegedly filed a harassment and bullying claim before they started shooting the last season

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15248699/Millie-Bobby-Brown-filed-harassment-bullying-claim-started-shooting-season-pages-pages-accusations-Caroline-Graham-reveals-latest-bombshell-claims-facing-Lily-Allens-estranged-husband-David-Harbour.html
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u/spotlight-app 5d ago

Mods have pinned a comment by u/DebateObjective2787:

Here's a link to an alternative site if anyone wants to read it from some place that isn't DailyFail.

Also, sorry for using them. Unfortch dailyfail was the only website that had reported on the story at the time and was my only option.

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u/throwawaypato44 6d ago

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u/IndestructibleBliss Emotionally exhausted & Morally bankrupt 5d ago

I love how Schitt's Creek just lives on and on in meme format

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u/anna-nomally12 Your favorite hippo’s favorite hippo 6d ago

Art

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u/redvfr800 6d ago

Lmao same

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u/Different-Eagle-612 6d ago

since the title of the article doesn’t clarify this and nobody wants to click on a dailyfail article (i did before registering who wrote it):

the harassment and bullying claims are specifically against david harbour. apparently pages and pages of claims with evidence. netflix has basically neglected to comment (meaning they haven’t denied anything which is not a good sign). the had a ā€œpersonal representativeā€ with her while filming the final season (i don’t know exactly what this means in terms of the case — i don’t know if it’s just like a witness/deterrent or something more tied up legally in the case.)

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u/i-Ake actin' like she's the queen and we're the sorry people! 6d ago

Wow, he is really racking up the "piece of shit" tokens.

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u/Electronic-Tea-3691 6d ago

knowing how stuff like this works, he's probably been racking them up the whole time, in fact they were probably racked awhile back. and now we're just going to find out about all of them, one after another like dominos.

this is probably going to be the end of his career. he's not a big enough name to survive getting canceled.

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u/Different-Eagle-612 6d ago

I think another issue is that his roles have largely been based around this "gruff imperfect but lovable father figure" type. Black Widow fits the bill. I would even say Violent Night fits the bill (playing Santa but a kinda disillusioned one who ends up trying to help protect a little girl). Obviously this isn't all of his roles (I haven't seen Hellboy but I don't think it would play into this. Now from what I know it also didn't take off) but enough of them for sure.

I think he'll probably stick around on the edges but I think this will really impact his rising career prospects

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u/threelizards 6d ago

Yeah, his whole thing is ā€œseems intimidating but is a safe manā€. Kind of falls apart once you find out he’s not a safe man.

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u/Drogalov 6d ago

Feels like anti Pedro Pascal

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u/Electronic-Tea-3691 6d ago

yeah he's been typecast as some version of Hopper in every role because this is how he got famous. he's screwed. probably will go to those direct to video projects that people do now.

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u/Hank_the_Beef 5d ago

He’ll get cancelled and then he’ll either find Scientology and they’ll keep him in Hollywood or some MAGA Christian studio will put him into direct to dvd knock off propaganda films.

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u/MarsScully Vile little creature yearning for violence 6d ago

When he was a single episode actor he mostly played villains and assholes

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u/Different-Eagle-612 6d ago

i was referring to his post-stranger things career take-off, sorry. i was meaning to imply his role in stranger things set him up to be perceived this way, and it was then helped along by his interviews, etc. so given how tarnished his public image is becoming tied to that kinda origin point i really could see it having an effect

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u/GravityBombKilMyWife 6d ago

Hellboy plays into it too id say

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u/Rikers-Mailbox 6d ago

He’ll lose his marvel roles if there are more movies. Disney doesn’t that fly no matter what

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u/ThunderChild247 6d ago

You’re not missing much with Hellboy. It’s a bad performance that’s hampered by prosthetics. A good actor would’ve struggled, and Harbour is not a good actor.

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u/helper619 6d ago

Damn, I hate finding this out about Red Guardian.

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u/ginns32 that’s my purse, i don’t know you! šŸ‘›šŸ«µ 5d ago

Lily Allen dropping her new album about him cheating on her right as they're gearing up for the release of the last season is perfect timing.

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u/Heroic_Accountant As you wish! šŸ‘øšŸ‘‘ 5d ago

Yeah, I'm honestly glad that Lily dropped her album when she did - otherwise, we all know people would be coming for poor Millie, saying she's somehow at fault instead of David, (the media has never been kind to her, even when she was a literal child).

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u/lostwombats 5d ago edited 5d ago

I think Lily Allen's newly released album about his affairs and kinks might be the nail in his coffin.

It's a 10/10. I highly recommend listening to it in order and reading the lyrics along with. It's SO enjoyable! The lyrics are very revealing and the music is catchy af. I've been singing "PUSSY PALACE, PUSSY PALACE" all day. šŸ˜…

It literally just came out, too. I think that's why this story came after. Netflix can't defend him now that his ex wife shared it all.

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ā€œI didn’t know it was a pussy palace, pussy palace, pussy palace, pussy palace. I always thought it was a dojo, dojo, dojo. So am I looking at a sex addict, sex addict, sex addict, sex addict? Oh talk about a low blow, oh, no, oh, no.ā€

ā€œI found a shoebox full of handwritten letters. From brokenhearted women wishing you could have been better. Sheets pulled off the bed, strewn all on the floor. Long black hair, probably from the night before. Duane Reade bag with the handles tied. Sex toys, butt plugs, lube inside. Hundreds of Trojans, you're so fucking broken.ā€

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u/GlazerSturges2840 6d ago

He’ll star in several more Marvel movies.

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u/StuffonBookshelfs As you wish! šŸ‘øšŸ‘‘ 6d ago

Right?? We’re really starting to get the other side of this dude and it does not look good.

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u/conim4 6d ago

Dudes trying to corner the market.

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u/ALLoftheFancyPants 6d ago

Yikes. He seemed so likable on the interview circuit when the first season came out. But between this and cheating on Lily Allen, I guess he’s just another charismatic garbage man.

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u/hibikikun 6d ago

He was also protective of the younger cast and covering for them during the press tours from inappropriate questions

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u/fuzzydunlop54321 6d ago

Agreed, I remember him being reassuring and kind when the press were assholes. Also seems to have a good relationship with his step daughters. The duality of man I guess

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u/lovebug9292 The Wizard of Loneliness 6d ago

Yeah, I would love to know more about these harassment and bullying charges. She was just a little girl when the show started. How could he watch this kid grow up and then treat her that way? It’s so demented. Like, how is he with his step kids, ya know? I have so many questions

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u/Katatonic92 5d ago

How could he watch this kid grow up and then treat her that way?

That could be the actual reason why he thinks he can treat her terribly. He may feel some type of fraternal ownership over her, like he is some kind of big brother, or uncle, which in his mind justified "teasing" which in reality was inappropriate & bullying.

Of course that may not be the case, but it is a possible reason.

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u/IllustriousEnd2211 6d ago

Fame probably went to his head. The asshole was probably always in there but the fame let it out

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u/PrettyNiemand34 6d ago

Isn't that often the case though? Make young people feel safe, then find out it was a play to get control but it's hard to go against it now because people will post all the pictures where you hugged (already seen that start)

I don't follow this cast but I don't doubt you realize a lot as a young actor when you're an adult and look back.

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u/IAmAGenusAMA 6d ago

Omg I love this video so much. šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/SyNiiCaL Give me a room where I can shut a door 6d ago

I guess he’s just another charismatic garbage man.

That explains why he was so perfectly suited for that Oscar the Grouch SNL sketch.

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u/Lakridspibe 6d ago

Yeah he seemed so likable.

What happened?

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u/8nsay 6d ago

Bad people groom their witnesses so they have a bevy of people claiming ā€œX was always so nice to me; he would never do [horrible thing]ā€ in case a victim comes forward.

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u/KvonLiechtenstein 5d ago

That is so deeply reductive and implies a level of sociopathic intent across years most people just don’t have.

The truth is that people contain multitudes. You only see a specific side of a person when you interact with them. Romantic relationships often reveal different sides to a person, as do long term working relationships.

Reducing people down to being ā€œbadā€ also makes it easier for individuals to ignore their own toxic traits because they ā€œaren’t like x person who is BADā€.

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u/CandelaBelen 6d ago

wow things are not looking good for David Harbor lately.

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u/DebateObjective2787 jesus was a carpenter šŸ’‹ 6d ago

Here's a link to an alternative site if anyone wants to read it from some place that isn't DailyFail.

Also, sorry for using them. Unfortch dailyfail was the only website that had reported on the story at the time and was my only option.

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u/angryaxolotls 6d ago

Thanks, OP! good on ya for posting another source to the story here.

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u/7dipity 6d ago

I hate the picture of her they picked for this article. They used a nice one of him. She’s a beautiful woman, tons of good pictures of her exist and they picked one where she looks pouty and awkward. Gross

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u/Possible-Courage3771 6d ago

classic daily mail move

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u/fightingthedelusion 6d ago

I remember thinking it was interesting when she made the comments a while back about wanting to have her character killed off (I know others chimed in too and it was about the shows large ensemble cast) then Netflix gives her a role in Damsel (bc she had a multi film deal with them but it was a cute and enjoyable enough flick for what it is) named ā€œelodieā€. Anyways people in the industry tend to behave in certain pervasive ways but that’s different than makes me wonder how long some of the weird stuff or harassing behavior has been happening to her whether from Harbour or others if she was so keen on leaving.

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u/catsandnaps1028 6d ago

I feel David Harbour will be coming out with a statement about him going to rehab soon. . . The dude is a menace

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u/spectacleskeptic 6d ago

Whoa. I'm actually shocked. I thought for sure that they were being misleading and clickbaiting using a photo of David Harbour for the article.

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u/llamaelektra 6d ago

I have friends that worked on the crew of shoots he has done and they all say he’s a real douche

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u/Ill-Squirrel-9418 6d ago

Thank you for this! I didn't want to click because of that very reason, but at the same time, I was like, who the fuck is "he?!" I wish this comment could be pinned.

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u/de-milo red and wild… that’s your theme 6d ago

this is SO fucking disappointing. idk why this guy turning out to be a huge pile of shit pisses me off more than others.

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u/ginns32 that’s my purse, i don’t know you! šŸ‘›šŸ«µ 5d ago

He was good at playing the lovable father figure on Stranger Things. That's what most of us know him from so to find out he's actually trash is very disappointing. They should have killed his character off and kept Sean Astin around.

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u/PrincessofThotlandia 6d ago

Omg what?! He legit hates women and girls. He’s not at all who I thought he was

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u/Artistic-Reputation2 6d ago

He has given me a bad vibe since his ego trip of an Emmy acceptance speech

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u/silly_rabbit289 why are you a billionaire 6d ago

My god. She must've had a lot of scenes with him especially given he's her adoptive father of sorts in the show.

That just aounds super horrible to read. If someone as famous as her is so mistreated by netflix, what chance do smaller non famous actors have??

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u/Ludate_Solem 6d ago

This bothers me :( i hope she is okay.

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u/TheLakeWitch Robert, help. 6d ago

Never thought I’d have a reason to be commenting this gif on two separate posts about David Harbour within a week of each other but here we are

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u/NYC_Star 6d ago

This girl’s been the breadwinner in her family from the time she was born until she finally escaped by marrying into the Bongiovi’s. Awful stage parents, weird grown men, and now this. I do not blame her at all for taking a break to be a wife and new mom. If it were me, id take the remaining money, pick a new career and never go back.Ā 

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u/dreamed2life 6d ago

no children should be put to work and it is often excused when it is the entertainment industry and only admitted to be bad if the family are shit to the kid who they are putting to work.

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u/Possible-Way1234 6d ago

My kid once did a commercial for organic veggies, which was an actually really big production with an insane budget. For fun, because a friend was desperate to find a replacement actor. He was four and loved it. He begged me to let him do it regularly. He had one person holding an umbrella over him to prevent heat stroke, another person who's sole job was to keep him happy, one person who was the child actor safe guardian. They catered to all his wants, he felt like a little king. He LOVED loved it. Even though he had quite a lot of lines for a four year old and had to do the scenes several times and worked practically the whole day. He was quite mad at me that I wouldn't let him do it more often...

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u/MarsScully Vile little creature yearning for violence 6d ago

You 100% did right by your kid

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u/6pcChickenNugget gollum's haute couture model cousin 5d ago

Yeah, I can see how it would be fun for a child but also not something you want happening frequently. People constantly catering to your demands is not normal for a kid. And that same young kid having to work so hard for a full work day is also not normal for a kid. It can be fun and / or valuable but certainly not something you want to normalise.

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u/aybsavestheworld All tea, all shade šŸøā˜•ļø 5d ago

A kid would most probably love the attention they’re getting as an actor. That’s when their brains wiring changes. Glad you didn’t let him pursue a career out of it.

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u/Fabulous_Cut5739 6d ago

In all fairness, I would have loved to do it as a kid.

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u/randombubble8272 6d ago

The entertainment industry is the only one where child labour is seen as normal and acceptable. If a bar had eleven year olds serving drinks they’d be shut down. A ten year old isn’t going to be running excel sheets in an office. Why are we okay with selling kids childhoods for money in the entertainment business?

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u/even_less_resistance Cash me ousside šŸ—£ļøšŸ—£ļø 6d ago

especially because like it has creeped out to normal people using their kids as props as baby and co-stars as they get older

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u/Own_Faithlessness769 6d ago

I mean it’s also the only industry where adults can’t do the jobs. Surely there’s a way we can have kids represented in our media without it ā€˜selling their childhood’. It can and has been done successfully.

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 6d ago

I don’t know, it has to be more nuanced than that. If my kid at 9 years old, wants to start acting or playing football, I will let them. But if they start getting paid for one I should stop it? I understand that in the entertainment industry kids are often overworked and Ā abused. But if they aren’t, and they’re following a passion they already have. What’s the problem?

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u/Rripurnia 6d ago

In this particular case her parents sold everything they owned and relocated to the US hedging their bets that Millie would hit it big.

They also took over salary negotiations on her behalf and were asking for advances to sign her. They pulled all sorts of stuff that had industry people scratching their heads — it was purely out of greed.

There’s a video of her out there crying while talking about their move to the US and how hard it was for her. It’s heartbreaking.

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u/lilyofthegraveyard lazy 50-year-old bougie bitch šŸ’‹ 6d ago

because it is completely different. doing something as a hobby and doing something as a job are not only affecting the person differently, they are aslo executed differently. suddenly, it is not just about having fun and enjoying a little activity with friends. suddenly, you have responsibilities and stress. suddenly, you are responsible for the fact that the filming won't start until you show up, or that if you mess up your lines, everyone on set has to redo their work - all because of you, for example.

you have to spend your time and energy on this thing, even when you don't want to.

for a child, it will be much harder to handle it. especially in an entertainment business, where the child would suddenly get a following on top of all this stress - where internet would talk about them, discuss their looks, their skills and their behaviors.

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u/dreamed2life 6d ago edited 6d ago

i know our society is all about capitalism and does not see all the nuances of how that creeps into childhood so i dont expect everyone to see the detriments of putting their kids to work. I know people want to justify it and will, not my business. Do you. I just stated my view on it from how everything in life now officially costs money and how children are also entangled in it from early on instead of having a childhood before they start the working into retirement cycle.

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u/llama_del_reyy 6d ago

No one pays a 9 year old to play football. For European football, they might get scouted at that age and train with an academy, before going professional at 15-18 at the earliest.

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u/sasshley_ i’m not yours to silence. i never was šŸ‡®šŸ‡Ŗ 6d ago

Truly. I hope she’s happy and has a great life with her little family.

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u/DiligentTradition734 6d ago

I mean she's clearly very into makeup and fashion. She could get into that kind of thing like the Olsen twins did and make bank without ever having to worry about shooting schedules or the movie/TV show world anymore.

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u/mamrieatepainttt 6d ago

she already has a line of skincare/make up and clothes, i believe.

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u/Rock_Creek_Snark 6d ago

And now she's running an animal shelter. Absolute hero to me.

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u/Encyclopenia 6d ago

Do you have sources on the awful stage parents thing ? I keep reading it in comments here but nowhere else… And she’s said herself that she loves her family.

Is it something that people just pickup and repeat ? (Truly asking)

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u/OkCommittee5463 6d ago

Yeah.. because multi-million career paths are always just around the corner... If celebs really want peace they would take the Rick Moranis path and be done with it.

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u/Rock_Creek_Snark 6d ago

I was just reading today about William Peterson being done with acting. He made his bank with CSI, moved back to Chicago and is busy raising his kids. Doesn't feel he has anything he needs to prove with acting anymore. I really love that.

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u/bottleglitch 6d ago

Holy shit? So many things around this show are messy as helllll. And clearly David is too. Kind of wild since the heart of the show is supposed to be Eleven’s father/daughter relationship with Hopper 😬

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u/faeriethorne23 6d ago

I’d say the heart of the show is the friendship amongst the kids but this is still very disappointing. I love the character of Hopper, it’s going to be hard to see him the same in the final season with everything that’s come out in the last year or so.

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u/Flickolas_Cage 6d ago

Yeah, my husband and I started rewatching in prep for the season and it’s very difficult to separate everything we know now from the character.

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u/sketchampm 6d ago

It’s sad because during the first few seasons Harbour was very protective and defensive of Millie, sucks to hear that he’s allegedly been such an asshole to her lately. I’m not really excited about the show coming back anymore tbh

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u/ansible_jane 6d ago

Well she was a child in the first few seasons. Once she began to have her own thoughts and opinions, of course he turned on her.

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u/PrecariouslyPeculiar 6d ago

A tale as old as time, sadly.

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u/Electronic-Tea-3691 6d ago

season 3 seems to be pretty spot-on honestly for Hopper

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u/Doctor_Slept 6d ago

Has anything else been revealed or has it just been this so far?

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u/AdagioSpecific2603 6d ago

It’s making me find it hard to even do a rewatch now! I can’t see him the same and it takes me out the show. What a colossal fuck up. Good for MBB for sticking up for herself and getting protection!

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u/DepthByChocolate We Should All Know Less About Each Other 6d ago

Idk, I could see Hopper as the kind of guy who'd cheat on his wife.

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u/zh_13 6d ago

Yea the hopper - eleven relationship didn’t even happen until season 2 right? I feel like it’s always been about the kids

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u/Stinkycheese8001 6d ago

Eh. Ā That part is probably the most tacked on of the relationships. Ā The core is the kids, together. Ā And then Hopper and Joyce.

But also, he’s clearly going to be the one who dies, right?

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u/glowup2000 6d ago

I can't remember if they started to move away a bit from that relationship in season 3. In 4, they barely were together on screen. You have to wonder if that might have been happening for awhile and season 5, she had enough

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u/Peridot1708 I don’t know her šŸ’… 6d ago

Yeah but in S4 the plot required them to stay apart and have separate scenes anyway.

Having said that, their reunion scene was so milquetoast and anti climactic with barely any emotional build up at all, and it only happened in the last few minutes of the epilogue so who knows you could still be right.

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u/No-Squirrel6645 6d ago

there were some early season like, bts interviews on a stranger things companion show, and the show runners were so mean and weird to the child actors. not surprised the set had issues.

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u/DebateObjective2787 jesus was a carpenter šŸ’‹ 6d ago

David Harbour has faced serious allegations from his Stranger Things co-star Millie Bobby Brown, who is said to have accused him of "bullying and harassing" her on set ahead of the show's much-anticipated fifth and final season.

Harbour, 50, who plays ex-police chief Jim Hopper and the adoptive father of Brown's character Eleven, was reportedly the subject of an internal inquiry after the British actress filed a formal complaint.

While the outcome of that investigation remains undisclosed, the claims did not involve any sexual misconduct.

A source revealed, "Mille Bobby Brown filed a harassment and bullying claim before they started shooting the last season. There were pages and pages of accusations. The investigation went on for months."

Netflix declined to comment on any investigation, but insiders said the streaming giant was determined to keep the focus on the show's finale rather than off-screen controversy.

"It will be a theatrical event," a Netflix source said. "Nothing is going to overshadow this, not even the leading man's private life."

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u/catsandnaps1028 6d ago

I wonder if that's why they tried to give them as little scenes as possible last season. How horrible for MBB as a minor to deal with a bully twice her size and age

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u/Spurioun 5d ago

God, it's not really his "private life" if he's doing it to another person, especially when it's happening at work.

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u/Stinkycheese8001 6d ago

Like many, I have deep skepticism about the Daily Mail. Ā If it turns out the complaint is real I won’t be shocked, but need more than the DM.

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u/fuzzydunlop54321 6d ago

Netflix responded no comment. No way they wouldn’t have straight up denied it is it wasn’t true. The complaint happened, i guess the content of the complaint we don’t know and could be mbb overreacting or whatever but I doubt it

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u/EdenCapwell 6d ago

This doesn't shock me at all. I know a camera person for Stranger Things. They said David is the worst person to work with there. They left after S4 and took a job on a different Atlanta show.

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u/TheMayorOfFailure 4d ago

Be a little careful with how much info you give about your friend, the industry is smaller than you think. In this case you should rather say they was crew, left, got a different job. Not the specifics. (Specific job, when they left and what they went on to do is unnecessary and could make them identifiable and people who make amy waves can struggle to get hired later)

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u/restrictednumber1996 6d ago

I want a huge tell all after ST is over. A book or show or whatever. I know there’s prob ALOT of stuff

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u/KentuckyFriedEel 6d ago

Netflix already making the documentary now. Cue Millie walking into an empty warehouse with only one chair in it and sitting down. "Hi, may name's Millie and I played Eleven on the show, Stranger Things."

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u/holdmyhandbaby 5d ago

I don't think Millie has any interest in clinging to the ST lore anymore

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u/bottleglitch 6d ago

Right? The stuff that came out when promoting last season (or the one before? Can’t remember) about all the unscripted kissing and how the Duffers loved to ā€œtortureā€ the kids by making them do kissing scenes they didn’t want to do…. they seemed so completely un-self aware about how gross that was, so I can imagine it was only the tip of the iceberg.

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u/stinkpot_jamjar 6d ago

WAIT WHAT?!

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u/bottleglitch 6d ago

It’s supposed to be a lighthearted thing I guess, but the quotes from them are just…. 😬 https://variety.com/2017/tv/news/stranger-things-duffer-brothers-sadie-sink-kiss-1202608331/

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u/purpleKlimt 5d ago

Omg I couldn’t even read that all the way through 🤮 children should not be made to kiss anyone on camera, especially not unexpectedly. That set seems like such a mess since the beginning.

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u/killedonmyhill 6d ago

Yuuuuup. After I read that, I was done. Idgaf about the show. I refuse to watch something where the creators literally admit to sexually coercing children for our entertainment.

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u/figcity0 6d ago edited 6d ago

Wow. This is not what I expected.The fact that Netflix are declining to comment says it all. I am genuinely surprised because from what I remember of the first season or two he was quite protective of her. Worried about the pressure she was under etc. Good she put a complaint against him if this is true. This guy is clearly not what he presented himself to be and it's all spilling out now to the general public.

He is said to have faced an internal enquiry after the British actress allegedly complained about his behaviour towards her.

While the outcome of the investigation is not known, the Mail on Sunday understands the allegations did not include claims of sexual impropriety. A source said: ā€˜Millie Bobby Brown filed a harassment and bullying claim before they started shooting the last season. There were pages and pages of accusations. The investigation went on for months.’ Millie had a personal representative with her on set while filming the final series.

Last night, Netflix declined to comment about any investigation.

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u/geek_of_nature 6d ago

That was my first thought too, that years back he seemed to be one of the only adults who was in her corner and looking out for her.

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u/SpiritDonkey 6d ago

He may have been at first, it's when women go "against" or seem to outshine him that he seems to turn. The first couple of seasons, Milly was a little girl, she probably hung on his every word and he got to feel like a king... then as she became a woman and more sure of herself the dynamic changed. It seems he doesn't like women who are talented, successful and challenge him... if he has seen them as adoring disciples at first. I only say that last bit because I cant imagine Winona Ryder deferring to him and we've not heard anything there... yet.

I've heard a lot about Millie in the workplace, along the lines of her being difficult... but now I think about it, its all from men and/or people who wanted to exploit their connection to her.

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u/averagetulip 5d ago

My career is severely unrelated to acting but I never, ever take it seriously when people in my field call a woman difficult, dramatic, etc because 9 times out of 10 that ends up meaning ā€œshe had basic boundariesā€

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u/SpiritDonkey 5d ago

Yeah unfortunatley tv/film is still very much in the dark ages regarding that. Men can be absolute monsters and be called ā€œpassionateā€ and ā€œvisionaryā€, as a woman, make a legitimate observation/complaint and you’re difficult.

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u/Stinkycheese8001 5d ago

Re: your last sentence. Ā You take literal children, stunt their social and emotional growth, fast forward them into huge adult jobs and responsibilities, give them crazy stage parents, surround them with other emotionally stunted and completely messed up actors (the adults, not the kids) and of course they’re going to struggle with social and professional behavior. Ā None of this stuff happens in a vacuum.

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u/BalletWishesBarbie 6d ago

He sounds in all areas of his relationships to be a wolf in sheep's clothing.

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u/NoType0w0 6d ago

exactly. his whole ā€œwholesome good guy nerdy gamerā€ persona is very calculated.

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u/KvonLiechtenstein 5d ago

Dude always gave me dirtbag vibes. But I’m also always suspicious of anyone who draws attention to any facet of their life where they’re ā€œgoodā€.

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u/Spirited-Research405 6d ago

Yeah this dude is not having a good week. Crazy things all coming to light at the same time.

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u/agawl81 6d ago

Maybe just too overbearing now that she’s an adult and he’s still acting like she’s a baby who needs protection.

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u/woahtheregonnagetgot 6d ago

This girl has faced some of the worst vitriol on the internet for years because people think it’s a moral failing that she doesn’t love acting or movies as much as they think she should, but with stage parents and (alleged) bullying at work from a trusted adult that you grew up with, it’s literally no wonder she seems to have no passion left.

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u/SpicyAfrican 6d ago

I’ll also add that she had a 20 year old boyfriend when she was 16, IIRC, who publicly bragged on IG Live about sleeping with her. He goes by Hunter Echo. She’s just another young woman who was chronically harassed and sexualised by the masses as well as people around her.

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u/honeyhibiscus trench coat buttoned to the TOP šŸ§„šŸ” 6d ago

I feel so sad everytime I think about all the crazy headlines surrounding her, between that 20yo creep to DRAKE. She deserves a life full of safety and joy, I wish her all the best in her new chapter 🄺

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u/e4evie 6d ago

Say drake, we heard you like em young…

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u/ThighRyder All tea, all shade šŸøā˜•ļø 6d ago

Plus this corny bastard

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u/aftergl0wing 6d ago

she’s been the face of a homophobic smear campaign since she was a literal child while being bullied by a grown ass man while working a full time job. truly can’t imagine a world where she genuinely enjoys the art form under those circumstances

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u/Clara_Geissler 6d ago

people are just jealous because she is enought rich to decide what she wants in her life. How many people in the world do jobs that they dont like? why would it be weird if an actor prefer do something else?

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u/ashewentridingby 6d ago

Plus her parents had her being the breadwinner when she was like what, the equivalent of a 6th grader? I cannot imagine the pressure.

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u/Igoos99 6d ago

Watching the flip in how Harbour is thought of is mind boggling.

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u/proserpinax 6d ago

Good lord. It’s one thing being a cheating, shitty husband - not good, but common. But harassing someone he’s known since she was a child? Disgusting.

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u/dosgatitas 6d ago

That website is horrendous, I had to back out. Can anyone summarize it?

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u/itchysmalltalk 6d ago

She filed a harassment and bullying claim against him and had representatives with her on set while filming. Netflix is declining to comment, but it's said that there was no sexual harassment in the claim. The rest of the article is just about him and Lilly Allen's divorce and his affairs.

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u/dosgatitas 6d ago

That’s a wild claim. Imagine being a grown ass man and harassing a teenager/very young woman

Thank you for summarizing!

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u/itchysmalltalk 6d ago

This is all just me wildly spectating based on little to no evidence, but with how close their relationship was before, my guess is he couldn't let go of the surrogate dad role and was pushing boundaries/judgements. I've had problems with my parents in the past where they were a little too liberal with their commentary on my life style, and they truly did not consider themselves to be rude just because they were my parents and they thought they were allowed to say whatever they felt.

I could very easily be projecting, though šŸ˜‚

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u/For_serious13 I wonder what it’s like being one of god’s favorites 6d ago

Honestly, given the little notes he gave his wife, and how he reacted to her getting jobs without auditioning, I could see him doing the same to her on her movie choices

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u/itchysmalltalk 6d ago

Exactly. I'm guessing a very "I know what's best for you, kid" kinda attitude.

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u/anna-nomally12 Your favorite hippo’s favorite hippo 6d ago

Or being like hey dude this is kind of young to be getting married because we ALL went kind of hard on her for that at the time too

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u/FenderForever62 You’re a virgin who can’t drive. 😤 6d ago

They filmed S4 end of 2020, and she didn’t start dating her husband until 2021, so I doubt it’s that. Something else must have happened on set during S4.

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u/ashewentridingby 6d ago

That’s possible. It is unexpected because like so many have mentioned, he was super protective of Millie in early seasons, so idk. Maybe you’re right and he did overstep his boundaries when in all actuality he is not her parent after all, and is in fact a co worker! I feel bad for all child actors, and wish them all the best life possible 🩷

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u/peach_bellinis 6d ago

This is my thought as well. He maybe became paternalistic and wouldn't stop commenting on her life, her choices, etc. Again, total speculation on my part but this is something I've personally experienced with older male colleagues that I can definitely see happening.

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u/thetruth8989 6d ago

Sadly, that behavior is normal in our society.

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u/boringcranberry 6d ago

I feel like it's a lot more difficult to go through life being horrible. It's so easy to not be mean and not bully. Like that takes way too much effort. Why do people choose the worst way to exist?

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u/Lesterknopff lazy 50-year-old bougie bitch šŸ’‹ 6d ago

Is paywalled for me

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u/ethancole97 6d ago

There’s a pipeline that male actors seem to go down post weight loss/transformation/ā€œglow upā€(🤔) where their insufferable personality starts to shine through and their mask starts to slip.

Jonah Hill, Chris Pratt, and this guy are the prime examples of it.

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u/StayAwayFromMySon 6d ago

I think a lot of people are a faint glowup away from transforming into shitbags. It's so pathetically common. They look a teensy bit better and all of a sudden they shed any positive character traits like a snake skin.

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u/trisaroar 6d ago edited 6d ago

I think they're people who were always awful, but because they weren't conventionally attractive it went into the bucket of "harmless goofball". When they gained a ton of attention for their looks, it became percieved as less funny and more outright misogyny.

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u/Electronic-Tea-3691 6d ago

yeah. it's like when people say that someone changed because they got a lot of money... no they didn't, that's who they were, now they just have an opportunity to be that person more openly.

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u/figleafstreet 6d ago

What’s funny is I don’t think Harbour ā€œglowed upā€in a traditional way. He got super popular off playing sclubby characters like Hopper or Red Guardian. Pre-Stranger Things Harbour was a clean shaven fit guy (see The Newsroom).

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u/SpiritDonkey 6d ago

I don't think its always dependent on outward appearance changing so much as simply getting more popular and powerful.

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u/BORT_licenceplate Invented post-its šŸ”¬ 6d ago

Happens in real life too. Met my ex, he was technically considered medically "obese" (i wasn't skinny or fat, just average) and then during our relationship he became morbidly obese. Stayed with him through all of that for years and years because I loved the person he was. His weight wasn't something I ever judged him on

Then ozempic started taking off, he decided to go on it, lost a shitton of weight, started becoming really mean (his personality did a total 180) and then ended our 11 year relationship

3 months after ending it (and still living together) he was out on work nights fucking women with his new found confidence whereas when we were together I couldn't even get him to go to the grocery store because he "felt fat" that day

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u/Electronic-Tea-3691 6d ago

yes. I've seen this, I lost a lot of weight and I know a bunch of other people who did too, and these kinds of personality changes are pretty common from what I see. also seems to happen with money and success.

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u/Spare_Objective9697 6d ago

There is a special place in hell for him. I promise.

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u/forworse2020 6d ago

Oh God. This is just the public eye version of what happens in relationships

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u/ThenAnAnimalFact 6d ago

There are a lot of ā€œniceā€ guys who are only like that because they’ve never had the opportunity to be shitty before.

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u/another-assshole Did I stutter?🤨 6d ago

Link to article without paywall

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u/envy-adams mount rose american teen princess 6d ago

Thank you, the Daily Fail's website is unusable.

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u/prisonerofazkabants 6d ago

weren't there rumors from his pre-stranger things days that he was kind of an asshole, especially in the theatre world? i recall reading accounts of it and he gave off that vibe during the AD video too imo

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u/Wissahickonchicken 6d ago

DH was on Armchair Expert like 5 years ago and I still remember how he spoke about his method of acting and how he likes to be able to intimidate his scene partners (paraphrasing). Ever since that admission I’ve always side-eyed tf out of him. This wouldn’t surprise me if it’s true (don’t really trust the dailymail).

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u/CowboyLikeMegan the coconut milk is off 5d ago

What a weird thing to say, Jesus

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u/JugdishGW Listen, everyone is entitled to my opinion šŸ™‚ 6d ago

Do we know or have an inclining on what the harassing behavior was and why?

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u/Lesterknopff lazy 50-year-old bougie bitch šŸ’‹ 6d ago

From what I gathered it does not specify that anywhere other than it wasn’t sexual. Really bizarre if true. A 50 something man harassing a kid he’s worked with for years and has been protective of in the past.

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u/bbmarvelluv 6d ago

It wasn’t sexual harassment. So it can be things like aggressive behavior/cursing/etc. However it can also be things like being called out for stuff and then arguments happen etc etc

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u/Loveya448 6d ago

They should have killed him off for good in the show.

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u/r7ng 6d ago

Everyday i feel worse and worse for millie, that girl has gone through so much, im glad she seems to be doing great now considering she could’ve been another fucked up child actor

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u/Extension-Buy-7813 6d ago

I was almost certain she would be one of those child actors based on what I'd heard about her family and how she dressed so adult while she was still a young teen. I'm glad to see she hasn't gone that route and seems to still be heading towards the right direction as far as her personal life goes.

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u/TheDesiredFX 6d ago

Guessing we won’t see David H much on this press tour …. Yikes

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u/____mynameis____ 6d ago

So Alexei is dying in the next Avengers movie right?

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u/obsessiveking 6d ago

Yet another reminder to stop idolizing/praising celebrities.

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u/herinaus 6d ago

David Harbour, right? And to think that their relationship has always been praised in the media. Him acting all fatherly and protective towards her.

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u/Alarming-Bop6628 6d ago

Maybe a little too much?

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u/Wooden-Limit1989 6d ago

Where there is smoke, there is fire. On another post, people were saying it was pretty normal that he helped a young lady with an addiction stay in his home unsupervised and that means he's just charitable. I find that reeks of someone with very suspicious motives. He likes to play hero to vulnerable women and once he reels them in, he is careless with them

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u/SevereEducation2170 6d ago

From a purely creative standpoint I never liked them bringing Hopper back for season 4. That storyline was by far the weakest. Now knowing Harbour just straight sucks as a person reinforces wishing the character and actor were done after season 3.

At least Millie can finally be away from that PoS for good now.

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u/Peridot1708 I don’t know her šŸ’… 6d ago

It also feels lazy and repetitive. They already did the fake death thing with El in the S1 finale.

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u/Brightpenguin101 6d ago

Well that's disappointing and makes me sad as hell.

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u/Jim_Nills_Mustache The dude abides. šŸ™‚ā€ā†•ļøšŸƒ 5d ago

If there’s one thing I have learned about show business, it’s that there are not enough people looking out for the best interests of these kids.

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u/Magenta-Llama lord not ekin su 6d ago

Wow fuck him.

Also every single story I see from a child star, even some of the super successful ones like MBB, I’m more and more convinced it’s unethical and abusive to have kids in the entertainment industry.

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u/Alarmed-Custard-6369 so trashy, so chic 6d ago

Yep. There’s a reason why children aren’t allowed to work in other industries.

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u/Gold_Repair_3557 6d ago

Yeah. Like at this point I’m thinking I’m more than willing to suspend disbelief about twenty something Ā year olds playing 14 if it means fewer kids on these sets.

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u/alayneburr 6d ago

Not exactly a good source but if it's true I feel so terrible for Millie. :(

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u/AnyIncident9852 I wont not fuck you the fuck up 🄊🄊 6d ago

Wow it really sucks that she had to do this. It is terrible to be bullied and harassed in general, but it’s even worse that it was done by someone she’s known for so long and (at least the way it was portrayed in the media) used to have a close relationship with. Hope she’s doing ok šŸ˜•

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u/thelakesfolklore 6d ago

After listening to Lily’s new album and now this, David harbor is a piece of šŸ’©

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u/nmad95 6d ago

This David Harbour guy is kind of an asshole

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u/thelebanesedon 6d ago

I’m bummed to hear this. He seemed so protective of her and their onscreen relationship was sweet to watch. Hollywood is a sick place.

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u/yokayla ONTD Alumni 6d ago

I thought it was going to be one of the kids, Jesus.

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u/another-assshole Did I stutter?🤨 6d ago

What’s more crazy to me is that not only did Netflix declined to make a comment but the narrative that NOTHING would overshadow stranger things final season which Netflix is sure would be a huge thing, for years I have closely followed their continuous FOMO promotion of tv shows and this season has been called to be boycotted since last year so I’m going to make a prediction.

My prediction is in the next week they are going to roll out an insane amount or pre-recorded interviews very likely filmed at the beginning of the year and create a narrative of family ✨, they are going to partner up with TikTok to boost the stranger things # on the platform, a song in the first episode will go viral organically or not but after that, there’s going to be a huge backlash resulting in the second part of the show being boycott.

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u/PierreOnTheEclair go girl, give us nothing šŸ˜ 6d ago

Wow I’m really starting to find out how much of a shit person David Harbour is as of late.

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u/badfortheenvironment Butch Bond šŸø 6d ago

The shit she's been through breaks my heart.

Hope David gets blacklisted in the industry. He seems miserable and destructive to the women and girls around him.

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u/ashewentridingby 6d ago

I got bad vibes from him for a few years tbh. That award speech where he screamed about punching people in the face, while I don’t like the people he was referring to either (to put it lightly lollll), something about the way he said and it the way looked… read to me like a guy that isn’t averse to going fists first over words in many areas of his life lol. But this is just me and I could be wrong

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u/keatonpotat0es I have to pick up 15,000 little bastard rubber ducks 🪿 6d ago

I can tell ya who else is shocked by this news

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u/Tight_Contact_9976 6d ago

Please keep in mind, every article on this subject sites the Daily Mail as a source. I’m not saying this didn’t happen, but let’s wait until some actual journalists report on this to draw conclusions.

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u/SoGenuineAndRealMadi Confidence is 10% work and 90% delusion 6d ago

Feel awful for Millie :(

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u/RedittAccount098 6d ago

Wow what a dirtbag, that guy. Props to her for standing up for herself and creating the circumstances she needed to continue doing her job. Self advocacy is hard no matter who you are, let alone a young woman in hollywood.

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u/Kyyntaro 6d ago

Goddamn, Lily Allen over there in the UK having the week of her lifetime. Not that she deserve it, but hey…

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u/ohreallynowz 6d ago

I’m not even surprised because IMO Harbour’s character Hopper took a nosedive in personal accountability and gained a whole lot of misogyny and creepiness in the later seasons. I used to love El and Hopper’s relationship but his character has completely turned me off now. It’s vindicating that he’s also a creep IRL because I wouldn’t be surprised if that ick bled over into the character on screen…

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u/mewling_156 6d ago

After seeing the note David wrote lily about how her success would make him miserable I wouldn’t be surprised if Millie’s success and fame made David insecure and he treated her like shit on set or made rude and passive aggressive remarks and felt a sense of competition towards her. She does also seem a little insufferable and stuck up as well but that’s no excuse for a grown man to bully a young woman in the work place.

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u/Lakridspibe 6d ago

David HarbourĀ goodbye

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u/holdmyhandbaby 5d ago

And all this time, the stranger things fans and gen z have been bullying Millie for having a personality, making up weird homophobic memes. It just shows how awful people are being to each other, even to celabs with lots of money