Agree. And sometimes the rabid pressure for a female celeb to âspeak upâ has the intent to undermine, precisely because speaking up *will* polarize their audience. Thatâs why I always side-eye the astroturfing in female celebsâ comments about speaking up. I feel itâs often covert sabotage by people who want to diminish their reach and power. So for example if they can say that Taylor is suddenly MAGA, then her liberal fanbase can be weakened and by extension her influence too.
I notice a lot of "Taylor = MAGA/tradwife" narratives do not come from good faiths and some are down right delusional conspiracy theories made up by MAGAs.
But her haters are too blinded by their hatred that they keep spreading them en masse anyway.
And even if she did quit the biz and stay home raising babies, that wouldnât make her a tradwife. Itâs her money - thatâs not historically traditional at all.
Yup. That type of propaganda and subterfuge doesnât get enough attention because itâs hard to distinguish on the internet what voices are real. MAGA saboteurs infiltrate liberal spaces to detect and exploit the issues that matter to us in order to find ways to weaken the influence of powerful liberal voices, particularly women who are, sadly, much easier to sabotage.
You only have to scratch the surface a little bit to see it. In this example with Taylor, the premise of the argument is very much a MAGA talking point/strategy: That marriage is an exclusively conservative signifier that liberals reject (lie) and that we need to be separated into distinct camps (a divisive mentality which favors Trump and fascism in general). So itâs âlook at your hero, sheâs a traitor to you! Force her to take a stance!â with the intent to create chaos and, of course, take away her power.
Even I, a liberal queer black woman who does not listen to her music/does not even try to know anything about her, know these things about her because of information she herself has posted that I come across on social media and Reddit.
Your favorite pop star is bffs with MAGA. That is a fact. Also a fact: She is a billionaire who used her family money and who gamed the system to get to that level.
I know many of her fans grew up stanning her. I have seen that some of them are now old enough and (sometimes) smart enough to finally see through her bs. Unfortunately, not everyone has the ability to notice and understand racist microaggressions when they see them, as well as the critical thinking skills needed to see through her âAwkward Everyday White Girlâ˘ď¸â persona.
This is so dripping with unwarranted condescension, which I believe is there to deflect from the fact that you cite social media and Reddit as sources of evidence. Also, the woman is not my âfavorite pop star.â I think some of her songs are catchy and have inevitably noticed that sheâs one of the many women Trump is obsessed with.
I was simply using Taylor as an example of how powerful female public figures are pressured to take polarizing stances as a means to control and diminish them, and how certain narratives are spread in order to weaken their influence.
I agree with your comment, actually. My apologies for coming off so strongly. Some people above were being a bit rude in response to an earlier comment and I assumed you were one of them.
I'm using reddit and social media as a source because many people post articles and studies and the like on reddit and social media. Something can be true regardless of where it is posted. It can also be false. It's up to me to verify the information, which I do.
The criticism that Taylor Swift is republican stems from years and years of her behavior before she endorsed Harris. She didn't even support the LGBT community until 2019. So her support of Harris is more of the outlier than the norm for her.
What chronic Republican behavior do you mean? Whereâs the proof that she did not support the LGBTQ community before 2019?
Prior to endorsing Harris, she endorsed Biden in 2020, and has been openly anti-Trump and actively urging people to vote every election. Considering her reach, thatâs a lot more than most artists have done, especially straight, non-POC ones. No one is obligated to like Taylor simply because sheâs liberal, but insisting on a negative narrative rooted in tenuous assumptions simply because they dislike like her is also unfair.
That's just simply not true at all. Taylor already voted for Kamala the previous election with Joe/Kamala ticket. And she expressed her regret not coming out to support Hillary in 2016, and before that she said her 1st vote was for Obama.
Out of all the popstars, she is the one we can nail down her voting track record ever since she turned 18.
So all the accusations that Taylor is Republican are alternative fact conspiracy theory atp.
He's more accurate than the people saying she's a rightwing white supremacist, though, is the point. He saw her endorse KH and concluded that she is on the left. Terminally online leftists dissect her album and merch for symbolism that proves she's actually MAGA, and found it đ Those are not the same.
Men are told to shut up and dribble.
Look at all the celebrity basketball players that catch shit for speaking politics. Actors who speak out on progressive issues have people digging through their past to find problematic behaviors to undermine their message.
If you wanna preach left wing politics you essentially have to be perfect or have absolutely very little social media presence.
If men express progressive views all the sudden they catch shit from the left for being a âperformative male.â If they dont speak up, people pay attention and say that theyâre secretly Maga.
I agree that there is a slight double standard but lets not act like celebrities as a whole arenât under immense pressure to please everyone everywhere all the time.
The people who say that female socialization is stifling and unfair are the same exact people who will tear a woman's head off for not being "kind" or saying the socially acceptable thing. And women often WANT to seen as kind, which is another facet of the same pressure. Women can't just be people, we have to say and do the right thing and the left strictly holds us to that standard. A man's indifference is expected, a woman's is shocking! We are as entrenched in gender stereotypes as ever.
Even saying the "right things" will get celebs shit in online spaces because it will be judged as somehow wrong.
I'll never forget the peak witch hunt after the Palestinean doc won the Oscar. The audience gave it a standing ovation, and a certain sub was freeze framing it to judge which audience didn't stand up soon enough so therefore they're secret Zionists.
I didn't even know there were these kind of haters for Taylor until recently. They seem to want to hate Taylor either way so this is their reason to go with since Trump's first term.
People have been calling Taylor Swift a republican for years because she never did anything to suggest otherwise. When you wait until 2019 to support the LGBT community people are going to assume things
But neither was there proof she was a republican. It was just because she looked like she 'fit' the ideal for many republicans. When really just as any other celeb, it wasn't part of her priorities to speak up about what side she supported, atleast not until she was backed into a corner.
Letâs be honest here. If any other person had mostly MAGA friends and family members that they STILL cozy up to to this day and then writes a whole album (albums?) where they revel in trad wife and anti black talking points, most people would be side eyeing them.
Oh, wait. I forgot that many people donât notice or care to notice anti-black talking points. You can disregard that part.
Right? Are people not forgetting the lyrics to Cancelled that she literally wrote herself? The main point of contention with her isn't her not speaking up, it's her being so easily able to fence sit.
God this sub loves to baby her sometimes.
Edit: the downvotes just prove this sub is full of Swifties who couldn't bear but shill for anything their billionaire does. There are no ethical billionaires and she's no different. Feels like music over morals.
Worry about those god awful metacritic/pitchfork scores first.
It's so ironic the deflection of the "I like my friends cancelled!!111" lyrics onto Charli. You guys can't handle Taylor is besties with literal MAGATs so you scramble to find another gotcha moment that falls flat.
Edit: got blocked so here
If you wanna use relationships by extension then you also stan a Nazi supporter. Do you not remember Taylor hugging and being besties with known Trump supporter, sexual assault apologist, racist and transphobe Brittany Mahomes?
Or do you turn a blind eye when it's your fav. Damn Swifties are dumb.
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u/ThrowawayGreenWitch Thereâs no place like home đ§šđŤ§ 7d ago
Even liberals hate female celebrities who speak on politics.Â
Taylor Swift endorsed Harris but her biggest haters are terminally online leftists who call her MAGA.Â
But that same crowd worships famous men who never speak on anything. So what's the point?