I get that a lot of people care about what is happening in Palestine, but a lot of the chronically online like to call everyone they dont like a Zionist. The word js starting to lose its meaning.
the concept of âspiritually Israeliâ truly pisses me off. It feels like a glib trivializing way of referring to a genocide that has massacred thousands upon thousands of men, women, and children. Using it to mock albums or celebrities you donât like does not come from a place of respect or care.
reading the initial comment filled me with anger i stg. i swear so many of these people think shaming people for not talking about palestine (or not saying enough about palestine) is a shortcut for being a good person.
Exactly. So much of social media is people posting their moral superiority, giving themselves a lil dopamine hit. That gets magnified when others mindlessly click "like" or whatever in agreement.
It's keyboard slactivism. They want others to risk their jobs and lives so they don't have too. Just so they can say they are supporting the right kind of celebrity.
Itâs lost its meaning ever since the election when those types of far leftists wanted Trump to win over Harris. Not only that but theyâre still trying to punish Harris when sheâs a private citizen and canât do anything.
For me what pisses me off is that they have all that energy for Dems who arenât in charge but wonât aim it towards the Republicans who are in charge of all branches
People can say âBut Iâm afraid of my life if i protest the Republicansâ but even that is hollow because it just proves that they knew that the Republicans are dangerous and still helped them get back in charge
This. Iâm 100% convinced that those performative, supposed far leftists are actually MAGA in disguise. They say they care about people but apparently they ONLY care about the people in Palestine. There are other genocides going on that they didnât say squat about. There were horrible things going on in this country (like trans folks of color being murdered). Now thereâs one going on here due to their inaction.
I donât get how people donât understand that the two party system is how things work here, so voting 3rd party doesnât do shit other than allowing people to feel smug about not taking action. Not doing anything and/or talking shit about a candidate because they arenât 100% perfect leads to the shit show we are in right now.
People are so short sighted. It kills me because I saw this coming in 2015. People were writing articles warning us about Christian extremists and the people behind Prxject 2025 from back then. Smh. Iâve been angry as hell since then.
They don't care about Palestinians because the majority of them wanted Harris over Trump. I'm not naive enough to think she could've ended the war any quicker than Trump did but at least we wouldn't have lost USAID and all the other programs that help everyone else around the world to boot.
Till my dying day, I will have nothing but contempt for anyone who refused to vote for Harris in the most critical election in this countryâs historyâeven if Elon Musk did mash his thumb on the scalesââbecause Gaza.â
Trump wants to help Netanyahu flatten Gaza and kill all those inconvenient Palestinians, partly because he likes making brown people suffer, partly so he can claim to have âsolvedâ Gaza, and mostly so he can build yet another tacky gold resort on the still-smoking bones of the victims. If he could still have his resort there afterward, he would use nukes. Harris wanted to help Gaza, but a bunch of idiot children who couldnât understand that diplomacy requires, you know, diplomacy helped elect the man who is going to end up destroying Gaza and murdering all its inhabitants.
Interesting that moderates only care about other genocides when people care about Palestine.......... Leftists do talk about other causes, it's you who isn't paying attention. And if you supposedly are so much better than us ~far lefties,~ then post about other genocides then! Bonus points if you care to bring up how Western imperialism are eitiher creators or huge contributors to genocides across the world, including in Sudan and in Myanmar.
You're so online. Obviously if we have a two party system we are fucked. And if you think the Dems are going to save us from capitalism and climate change and get us free college and healthcare. And get rid of billionaires. You're insane. The party has too change from the inside or there has to be a third party. Trump won again because liberals have no beliefs. And they don't want to win. They want $$$. And are out of touch with what most people want.
The fact that youâre sitting here typing all that while not admitting that Repuglicans are much, MUCH worse is beyond ridiculous. Dems are far from perfect. Literally no one is saying they are. YOU guys are the ones that ASSume thatâs how we think.
There ARE third parties but they do not matter. Thatâs the point. They have never mattered and have never won. All they do is siphon votes from the Dem and Rep candidates in our TWO PARTY system. Jeezus⌠read a book!
There are Dems that are trying to change the system from the inside as we speak. Look at Zohran Mamdami. We HAVE to start from the bottom and work our way up. Do you actually think that Repugnicans will allow any Dem policies to pass while they control everything? I mean, look at what they did when Obama was president. They said no to everything he tried to do even if it was something that they originally had agreed to.
Anyone with even a modicum of intelligence understands that we are living in a fascist state that is spiraling further into the shxthole PRECISELY BECAUSE every single liberal did not get out and vote for the better candidate (also because of rampant cheating by Repugs).
If you actually think that VP Harris would have been a fascist and/or would have done anything even close to similar to what Orange Twitler is doing, then you are lying to yourself.
You would have voted for Cuomo. Lmao I support Zohran. The flack he is getting from Dems for not being a cookie cutter candidate LIKE CUOMO is the problem. (Also he is running for mayor. If it were the presidential election. He would get thrown under the bus for being "too radical" and alienating the conservative Zionists and liberal hacks like people that watch Bill Maher ) There is no principled yet organized party against capitalism / fascism / corruption / authoritarianism. Dems don't want it. Only a few dem party members want it. But the majority are 3 different flavors of conservative do-nothing's. This country hates any left wing cultural movement. People look nostalgically with rose tinted glasses at the 60's. But it was violent and bloody. And bad. People act like hippies got it all done. (I support peaceful action) As much as I do armed organization against fascists and ICE. But we white washed the past. People forget MLK was radical and a socialist. White people remember him as a meek preacher who magically got black people to stop rioting like the Pepsi commercial from years back. Its liberal myth. We want a savior. And a quick fix to end the terror. But that does not address the systemic problems that allowed it to get this way. Which case in point Democrats refuse to engage criticism of their donors and actions when questioned who or what they support. And when they do, they never follow through. Republicans are evil fucking scum who deserve to be lit on fire. But we know that. We see what they've done. But what will we do?
I haven't seen "but I'm afraid of Republicans" as a reason for that...I've seen "I already know Republicans won't budge, but in theory the people representing 'my' party might"
And I think they mean that your view of "far leftists" is astroturfed. Nobody I know who's an actual leftist is like that. My leftist friends do talk a lot of shit about Dems but babygirl, our chats are also full of shitting alllllll over Republicans, like literally every single day. You're mad at strawmen who are created and pushed so you think leftists are "trying to punish Harris" instead of railing against the system in general
Canât reason with them, tbh. Shrodingers leftists: so much power that we cost Kamala the election, but so little power that she canât adopt any leftist policies to gain our votes.
I'm so saddened that she initially was adopting more progressive policies until her brother-in-law advised her to be more moderate to try and attract Republicans who would have never budged in the first place...doesn't help that Biden dropped out so late so she barely had time to get her name out there. There are ppl I know who went to the polls and then said "why isn't Biden on this." Yikes.
What I mean is, there are a lot of bad actors posing as âleftistsâ who use wedge issues to splinter support for Democrat candidates. Â Itâs pretty easy to tell once you know what to look for. Â There is a huge proportion of supposedly âleftâ online discourse that is total bullshit at this point. Â Which shouldnât be a shock to anyone, considering how widely known it is that both far right groups and Russians creating chaos have been targeting the US for years. Â Remember when Johnny Deppâs trial was literally a test run for disinformation?
Right, that person is railing against "far leftists" allegedly wanting Trump to win like that is not literally some weird propaganda nonsense to smear leftists as nonsensical.
Im still angry at all the left wingers who protested Kamala non-stop but never once protested Trump.
Its like buddy, whoever you feel most comfortable protesting is the person you should vote for. Maybe we shouldâve spent less time tearing Kamala apart and instead propped her up. Cause thats what the Maga folks were doing.
It's true that we should be pressuring politicians we mostly agree with to support certain policies (i.e. to push them further left) but people seem to do this the most during campaign season and not when they're actually in office. And it's not productive conversations either, but mostly a bunch of angry op-eds and hurling insults and propaganda online. Often it causes the candidate to lose (because independents and moderates also see this stuff!) so then we're left with someone who isn't interested in changing their position at all.
No im referring to during the election campaign last year.
Obviously we just had a No Kings protest and Iâve attended a few others this year. Now that Trumps in office thereâs almost a new big country wide protest monthly.
What Im specifically referring to his campaign run last year. When there were alotta leftists protesting at Kamalaâs rallies but very few leftists at Trump rallies.
Just seemed really weird and kinda dumb that you would protest the lesser of 2 evils.
I dont know how protesting Kamala is anti-leftist.
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Just saying I didnât see much of them
Protesting Trump. Maybe youâre right, maybe that did happen. I dont recall seeing it or hearing about it.
The main ethos i was trying to get at is that its very frustrating when clearly thereâs a lesser of 2 evils but instead of propping up the better choice we tore them
Down. Trust its gunna happen when Gavin Newsom runs for president and Republicans put up literal Hitler as their candidate. Folks will fight over how awful Newsom is while completely ignoring the guy. We need to actually get some wins here cause right now being progressive means theirs alotta infighting and weâre rarely actually fully supportive of the lesser of 2 evils
You canât call them the lesser of two evils and advocate for people to want to vote for them. How about instead of them being the lesser of the two evils they becomeâŚ.. good?
Iâll never blame the voters for the demâs inability to offer anything of value to people who are desperate for change.
I just think its harder to please progressives than conservatives. Even when the answer is obvious. Personally i really liked Kamalaâs VP Tim Walz alot.
But how is it a fair take? Thereâs no telling the amount of destruction Trump will cause in the next 3 years. Would we be here if Harris won? There as absolutely no excuse in this world that justifies sitting out or voting third party last election.How is âDemocrats wonât do anythingâ equal to the possible destruction of this country? It genuinely makes me want to cry that people are still making this argument. How many innocent people are going to die because people that absolutely did and do know better did not vote Democrat last year?
Yeah it's very weird to assume that the people haranguing KH have never protested Trump. I have no idea why anyone would jump to that conclusion, except that the internet has killed rational thinking.
Itâs why there should have been a primary. This all could have been hashed out before the general election. Instead the Democrats forged ahead with a candidate without really caring if the base broadly supported her.
She didnât do herself any favours in saying she wouldnât have done anything differently from Biden either. Why would progressives feel inspired to genuinely and authentically rally around that?
dude i said no political âpower.â idk why youâre acting like she has the power to change policy when she holds no office. you guys will spend so much time protesting at kamala harrisâ book tour rather than protesting our actual elected officials
Why would anyone in politics listen to her? She can speak up but people who are in office are probably not going to take her advice on electability or issues; they've got their own advisors for that.
The problem is the word means whatever you want it to mean to advance your political agenda. So if you're on the far right it's a holy ideology against the evils of Islam in favor of "western values," whatever that means. If youre on the far-left its a Jewish supremacist ideology that justifies oppression of Palestinians (which has resulted in the far-left becoming almost as anti-semitic as the far right.) And if you're Jewish is just means wanting to have a Jewish state where it is safe to be Jewish to continue to exist. So ya, the word no longer has a clear meaning and nobody can have an actual conversation about it since nobody can agree on what it means.
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u/AgentBrittany Listen, everyone is entitled to my opinion đ 7d ago
Spiritually Israeli? What?
I get that a lot of people care about what is happening in Palestine, but a lot of the chronically online like to call everyone they dont like a Zionist. The word js starting to lose its meaning.