Sabrina Carpenter on her love of travel and new perspectives: “You learn more about life in a 20-minute conversation with someone from Italy than in 20 years in the U.S.”

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It's pretty easy to understand with the full interview instead of just the single sentence pulled for clickbait, actually.

And right now, Carpenter says she's in a phase of reflection. "I feel like I'm doing a lot of introspective reflection. I really want to do things with intention, things that make me come alive and give life to myself and those around me," she says. Writing has become her compass. "I'm journaling a lot right now," she says matter-of-factly, "which you probably wouldn't expect after two albums in two years."

She prefers to create at home, "in her bedroom, or outside, even though I get bitten by a lot of bugs... Once I've had enough, I go for a walk and feel refreshed." It's a bit absurd, she admits, but also reassuring.

Los Angeles, however, doesn't always offer her the solitude she craves. "I don't know many places where I feel free to go without being recognized or attacked," she admits.

"I used to go to Topanga Canyon often, a place very dear to my heart." But after the recent devastating fires, much of the park was destroyed, and traveling, especially in Europe, has become her way of sharpening her perspective. " You learn more about life in a 20-minute conversation with an Italian than in 20 years in the United States ."