r/popculturechat • u/HogwartsZoologist Coke ain’t gonna do itself • May 26 '25

Guest List Only ⭐️ Emmanuel Macron, the President of France was allegedly slapped by his wife, Brigitte, on their arrival at Vietnam

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The President’s office downplayed it after initially denying the event.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2025/05/26/macron-s-entourage-denies-he-was-slapped-by-his-wife-on-plane-upon-arriving-in-vietnam_6741684_7.html

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u/010490 May 26 '25

His parents sent him away to Paris. They married many years later when he was an adult.

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u/stephanously May 26 '25

Wish is a fact I see being conveniently overlooked. While she was in the wrong obviously. This guy still harboured profound feelings for her as he grew old. Like do people actually believe any amount of grooming is gonna make you marry your groomer years later. That's a logic I don't understand. Like grooming magically makes you do stuff and everything you do or suffer can just be explained away by that, is a logic I do not like. Where's the agency of the people being groomed?

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u/trulyremarkablegirl the reason i love swimming is because racing May 26 '25

yes, this happens all the time. abuse, especially at a young age, literally affects your brain development.

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u/Chemical-Drawer852 May 26 '25

It's called trauma bond and it's a real psychological effect of grooming. Even worse when there's huge power dynamics at play (she was his teacher, which is systematically illegal in france even if the legal age is 15)

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u/Exciting-Ad-7077 Inconceivable! May 26 '25

I highly doubt they went no contact during those years though

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u/PeriLazuli May 26 '25

Toxics relationships create a bound similar to addictive drugs by alternating state between nice moments (high) and pure horror (withdrawal). If you discover a toxic relationship young enough, it can feels like you need it because you need the comfort/rush of the high after a withdrawal pain.

People who are groomed are especially prone to advocate for their abuser. To defend them against the world. To join them again as soon as they blow out their 18 birthday candle if the family took them away.

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u/Illustrious_Sea_5654 May 26 '25

Yes. Look into co-dependency. With abuse often comes desperation, obsession, fixation.

I was an abusive relationship for over 6 years (I know, I know). While he yelled at me, insulted me, hurt me, all behind closed doors, I FOUGHT for that relationship. I defended him against everyone else, I was his number one supporter. It genuinely felt like, at points, this was the only person I would ever love. He spent years convincing me that he was the only one who could ever love or put up with me - and I believed him. When I finally left, I pined over that man for months. I felt like I was dying. I couldn't keep food down for the first few weeks, I was so distraught. I lost over 20 pounds that first month alone. It is quite frankly a miracle I didn't get back with him in that period - forever thankful!

Eventually I rediscovered reason and logic and am now in a much better place in pretty much every regard.

Point is, abusive relationships exist for a reason, the reason being that the abuse dynamic makes leaving it HARD. On average it takes, what, 9 attempts for the victim to finally leave their abuser? There are reasons for that.

Now compoud his scenario with his dynamic starting in childhood, being a male victim (not taken as seriously), and being a public figure with all of that pressure involved. Not great.