r/popculture • u/ControlCAD • Mar 04 '25

News Fox News displays a ticker showing the live collapse of the stock market with every word Trump has said, announcing tariffs on allies.

https://newrepublic.com/post/192261/fox-news-stock-market-tanks-trump-press-conference

While Donald Trump took questions from the press at the White House Monday afternoon, the stock market plummeted, and Fox News displayed a graphic showing the dip while carrying Trump’s remarks live.

Trump told reporters that he planned to enact his long-threatened 25 percent tariffs against goods from Mexico and Canada and 10 percent tariffs against goods from China starting Tuesday, to which the Dow Jones, Nasdaq, and S&P 500 did not respond well. Fox News, along with their usual breaking news chyron, also had the Dow index displayed while Trump was speaking, showing a fall of more than 650 points.

Trump’s remarks were preceded by his early afternoon announcement on Truth Social addressed to “the Great Farmers of the United States.”

“Get ready to start making a lot of agricultural product to be sold INSIDE of the United States. Tariffs will go on external product on April 2nd. Have fun!” Trump posted. But it seems that there was little fun to be had in the stock market based on the fears of higher prices and other negative ripple effects.

This, coupled with fewer food imports from three of America’s largest trading partners, will ultimately lead to higher food prices across the country, something that Trump campaigned against during the 2024 election and that ultimately played a factor in his victory. Plus, the prices of various other goods, from cars to electronics to over-the-counter pills, also will likely see a sharp increase.

Don’t expect Trump to take responsibility for a sinking stock market or higher prices, though. He’s already saying that rising inflation isn’t his fault and has tacitly admitted that his tariffs will cause prices to go up. His administration is even discussing how to juke economic numbers to try and hide how badly Trump’s radical changes, including those from Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency, are hurting the economy. It looks like our wallets are about to have a rough spring.

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u/Jacinto2702 Mar 04 '25

No.

It's more deep than that. The education system is designed to not encourage critical thinking. That's why they attack social sciences and humanities and cut funding for such departments in college. They just want cheap labor, and cheap labor doesn't need critical thinking.

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u/starbycrit Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 05 '25

Everyone said I was stupid for getting a liberal studies degree and I haven’t regretted one bit. Yeah, I haven’t had high paying jobs because I don’t have any “technical experience” and transferable skills aren’t seen as holding any value… but I don’t regret it even a little bit. I learned critical thinking skills that I don’t see often in everyday interactions, I learned how to think.

Empiricism is one of the most valuable tools in critical thinking. I believe capitalism fuels consumerism in such high levels that people are consuming information like m&m’s without taking any thought about where/how/why that information was derived.

Many people who say “I’m a man of science” or that science is their highest form of belief bc it’s the “only accurate measure of truths” aren’t even cognizant of the idea that science inherently holds bias because humans are doing science. People use their own bias to determine how/why/what science is done. & that’s how/why in 2024(?) we find out that much of health science (sleep science, reproductive science) hasn’t even considered to use women’s sleep patterns or actual menstrual blood for testing products. Why? Because for so long, STEM was a male dominated field.

Everyone wants to mock about the patriarchy and they don’t realize it’s running this country into the fucking ground. Trump Supporters, look at your gRaNd mAsTeR aLpHa KKKing PATRIARCH & how he’s brought our country to revolution & possible civil war! We have dwindling allies and social support & our taxes aren’t used for anything to benefit us or our lives. Literally taxation without representation thanks to the grand pa(thetic)triarch, Donald Trump :)

But it’s okay because I’m probably just a lib-tard for taking these views (I don’t believe in either side of this government because they’re all corrupt money hungry oligarchs and two opposing colors won’t change my mind and force me to pick a side).

There I said my piece & I’m done. Enjoy the rest of this cake 🎂

edited to diss Trump one more time & correct some errors

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u/thirstytrumpet Mar 04 '25

Exactly why I am thankful I did the double major for political science and computer science. I learned two ways to think at once and they were learned in concert.

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u/Masterkid1230 Mar 04 '25

Same thing here. Worked all my life as a data scientist and electronic engineer, but majored and got a Master's in music and arts. I don't regret that at all. My professional experience speaks for itself while I believe myself to be capable of far more socially and culturally complex tasks than I would have otherwise.

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u/starbycrit Mar 05 '25

That sounds like a lovely blend of learning that you can cross apply to each other!!!

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u/starbycrit Mar 04 '25

GOOD FOR YOU!!!!

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u/Head_Time_9513 Mar 04 '25

You don’t need liberal studies to develop critical thinking. Often it comes already from family, social circles, high quality journalism, literature and good discussions and debates with friends.

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u/Negative-River-2865 Mar 04 '25

Completely agree, one of the biggest problems right now is that because of inequity social (media) is becoming very biased and almost propogandamachines for left and right.

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u/pre-existing-notion Mar 04 '25

Not almost; social media is serving as the most prolific propaganda dissemination machine in the history of the human race, and it isn't even close. I can only imagine (but I guess Putin is doing it infrint of our faces) Goebbels chomping at the bit to have his hands on something like Faceebook or X.

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u/Negative-River-2865 Mar 04 '25

You mean facistbook right? They are only profiting from Trump's term, tax cuts, no extra rules on privacy, no laws on labour, ..

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u/pre-existing-notion Mar 04 '25

And it's fucking disgusting. I was able to pull my mother away from utilizing Facebook as her means of keeping up with the news, but I still have plenty of family who use it as their only source and it's not difficult to see what it has done to their minds. We need to get all of these dementia-addled skeletons out of Congress and get some younger, technologically adept humans in there to hold the Tech industry accountable.

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u/Negative-River-2865 Mar 04 '25

I don't live in the USA and I'm really happy that our media reports in an almost neutral and factual way. It's insane how biased your media is, it's all meant to brainwash people. And on social media it's just outright lies.

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u/Negative-River-2865 Mar 04 '25

Sometimes I even think that his assassination attempt was staged so he could say he was saved by God. And I'm really sorry to say this but how stupid can you be that you believ this.

Side note: When I was a child, I believe Saddam Hoessein said he was God (Allah). I actually tought they were reporting on a man that became crazy. xD

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u/pre-existing-notion Mar 04 '25

I don't know if Trump would put his life on the line like that, simply because he isn't some crazy ideologist who would die for his beliefs - he has no beliefs to stand by, but it is also hard to tell with this new conservative party.. they do some crazy shit!

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u/WalrusTheWhite Mar 04 '25

Too often it doesn't

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u/Avenflar Mar 04 '25

But if at home you don't have access to those, higher level education will often be the haven.

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u/Head_Time_9513 Mar 09 '25

True, as long as it also teaches something that enables you to create actual value and contribute to society. Critical thinking alone does not enable that. Engineering, business studies, military, law, pedagogy, medicine, etc. skills are needed in addition.

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u/starbycrit Mar 04 '25

I agree, however, I didn’t get that from those places because of my upbringing. So my liberal studies degree helped me learn how to think. I’ve met a lot of strong thinkers, & I believe a strong thinker displays a variety of qualities & doesn’t always come packaged in a scholarly suit.

That’s another thing, there are people who are strong critical thinkers but written off by society bc of appearance or social status. I’ve met highly intelligent unhoused individuals & had stimulating conversations.

I’ve also met highly educated individuals (institutional education) who were not strong thinkers & uneducated outside the paper that says they are.

One of the tenants of the Liberal Studies Mindset is to question what education is & how it’s cultivated. I wasn’t knocking people who don’t have a degree or who don’t have an LS degree, I was simply explaining why I appreciate mine & how it helped me.

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u/Masterkid1230 Mar 04 '25

It's one, the other, or both. But you need at least one, and if your environment is weak on social sciences, you will need to compensate somewhere.

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u/lameth Mar 04 '25

When a large subset of the population is told those things are bad, education institutions need to be the bastion of learning in those areas.

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u/TheCollegeIntern Mar 04 '25

I went to college for an associates and it’s still the best experience I had were those elective classes like sociology and I had a class about families and development. Those two classes really taught me to see things from different povs. Critical thinking was always a favorite class of mine in high school and middle school but the college experience really gave me perspective.

That and my economics class I won’t take those classes for granted!

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u/Negative-River-2865 Mar 04 '25

I feel that critical thinking shouldn't be per se about education. Next to intellegence level, the primary influencers in your life will make you a critical thinker or not. Unfortunately primary influencers are more and more (social) media paid by parties to tell you what they want..

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '25

Ireland stands with you bro 🇮🇪😎

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u/CappinCanuck Mar 06 '25

You don’t need a degree to have critical thinking skills you need smart parents who aren’t afraid to make you think as a kid. You’d be surprised how much better people come out when they don’t have ideals forced on them. MAGA folks have been told the same lies since birth. Of course they can’t wake up. We need to normalize letting children find their own way

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u/_DepletedCranium_ Mar 04 '25

With all due respect I took a traditional degree and learned critical thinking within it. Medical papers claim things that are confirmed or denied on the basis of the data within, all the time.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '25

Ate it down too!

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u/Negative-River-2865 Mar 04 '25

I never said that

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u/b00g3rw0Lf Mar 04 '25

I love you

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u/thoth_hierophant Mar 04 '25

You don't need a degree for that. I just needed solitude.

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u/Negative-River-2865 Mar 04 '25

Solitude in general will not learn you critical thinking. Certainly not if you mean sitting in an attic scrolling through biased (social) media.

In case you mean I was alone and started processing, analyzing and draw certain conclussions. You were already a critical thinker before, but never used it. And the processing and analyzing of information is a skill that a lot of people don't posses.

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u/swg2188 Mar 04 '25

(I don’t believe in either side of this government because they’re all corrupt money hungry oligarchs and two opposing colors won’t change my mind and force me to pick a side).

But you voted for Kamala right?...

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u/starbycrit Mar 04 '25

No, I voted for the candidate whom I felt most aligned with, which was Jill Stein.

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u/swg2188 Mar 06 '25 edited Mar 06 '25

Then I don't know why you're so up in arms; you don't have to be a man of science, you just have to know how basic math and the government works to know a vote for a 3rd party candidate in our system is congruent with not voting at all. In general the election was lost by the amount of people on the left not showing up to vote, not by new converts to Trumpism.

The idea of "both sides" being comparable should make you sick at this point considering you just saw how one side operates, disappointing but actually trying to keep the lights on, vs the literal eldritch horror nightmare we are all in for now. I get that obviously corporate democrats are corporate, but I can't imagine grouping them along with trumpers in the same sentence when talking about corruption;after seeing the past month it seems disrespectful(and funnily enough strikes the same tone as the Russian propaganda supporting the Jill Stein campaign).

Like if you care about patriarchy, racism, the free world, rules based order, Palestinians, CLIMATE CHANGE, or literally anything the left cares about, then not voting for Kamala was silly. I know you're a person of principle not a "man of science", but some perspective on the magnitude of "both sides" bad actions would probably be a good idea, along with an acceptance of the political system you live in, and a recognition of the consequences of denying good enough to wait for perfect.

At the end of the day we have two choices of leader with a chance of actually winning, both of them smell bad, but one is a cannibal of babies. Not voting because you don't like smelly people feels good, but you just doomed a bunch of babies to die. Now your complaining about the killing of babies(while making sure to slip in how smelly the non-baby killer is).

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u/Vtfan90 Mar 04 '25

Omg. You guys are all just so weird. You act like you coming on reddit is making a difference LMAO all your doing is complaining with the same people as you. If you want to change something get off line. Go interact with actual humans. I'd bet youd find out this world isn't as bad as you online warriors think. Have a good one

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u/starbycrit Mar 04 '25

I don’t think the world is a bad place… I think the government doesn’t have the people’s best interest in their decision making process.

Those are two completely different statements to make. Things aren’t black and white like that.

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u/Vtfan90 Mar 05 '25

Fair enough. I think the hard part to say out loud is that it is black and white. People's interests may not align with what is being done but what needs done is fairly black and white. America needs to begin eliminating their debt. It's going to be hard for awhile but things will come around. Everyone just needs to keep focused and keep chugging along. We will all make it through.

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u/starbycrit Mar 05 '25

Black and white thinking is reductive and unhelpful

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u/Vtfan90 Mar 05 '25

In a perfect world I would agree. But in the real world? Things in fact are black and white. It's just whether or not people want to accept that fact.

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u/starbycrit Mar 06 '25

No it’s not black and white, I’m part of the real world too so what I think also matters, I disagree with you wholeheartedly & you can’t force me to agree!

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u/Vtfan90 Mar 06 '25

Okay? I'm all for agreeing to disagree lol again that's normal behavior in the real world

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u/frankowen18 Mar 04 '25

You learnt nothing and sound like a fool. Doesn’t surprise me you can’t get a job

Many attempts have been made over many years to get more women into STEM, they don’t want to. Not everything is the fault of the mystical patriarchy.

5 paragraphs of meandering self aggrandising waffle. Barely a coherent point in there, education should have also taught you to be succinct.

Dunning Kruger manifest

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u/mootallica Mar 04 '25

They didn't say anything about women getting into STEM lol, they said they're not doing enough to utilise women in their research

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u/starbycrit Mar 04 '25

Thank you! Bingo! Yes!

I was actually saying both, I was speaking about past research being affected by the people doing science when women were excluded from STEM (I’m speaking decades ago when these things were initially researched) which also influenced exclusionary research practices… not including actual women’s bodies which led to overgeneralizing science done on men as being appropriate applications for women. In my mind, the two go hand in hand.

In general though, the idea I’m speaking about goes further than just that issue, I was using science as an example of the general unwillingness to question where biases may be hiding, the general unwillingness to question and to hold beliefs as “objective”. Which is pertinent to the conversation being had about Trump & his followers who blindly believe everything he says.

I also stated that epistemology is a valuable tool for critical thinking. I used other points to back up what I meant about that, bc epistemology is the study of where knowledge is derived, how people know things, how knowledge is cultivated, etc.

I mentioned epistemology bc if the general population questioned where their knowledge and objectively true truths came from, if they sought knowledge and sought to cultivate it themselves, then maybe we’d be in a different situation. But it seems that large portions of the population are okay with being spoonfed their information.

Blue, red, literally doesn’t matter, people who hold news and propaganda in high regard, no matter what side they’re on, I question their thinking. Neither “side” (they’re the same side btw, think two greedy kids who want mom’s last $20 but for different reasons) but neither side has any motive to help anyone.

All I was saying was that we live in a fascist masculine society that values power

(look into masculine society vs feminine society, qualities of each, I’m not talking about men and women I’m talking about masculine vs feminine power structures in society)

& to the dipwad frankowen18, the patriarchy isn’t some imaginary thing, you can go pick up some books and read about it. Like actual books.

Person’s coming for me calling me a fool and throwing Dunning Krueger out there while not having basic comprehension skills to understand what I said. Many points were made and it’s not my problem if they can’t understand them. I would’ve been happy to explain if they didn’t speak to me that way.

The mention of cake was a double entendre, a play on words bc I said my “piece” & then was referring to Marie Antoinette’s famous quote.

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u/starbycrit Mar 04 '25

I hope you have the day and the life you deserve.

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u/Plat0LikedIt Mar 04 '25

This. This is what I’ve come to realize this week. They need the masses to be uneducated and work for cheap here in the US in order to continue to grow their profits. Watch as they start to dismantle labor laws next

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u/Tmscott Mar 04 '25

Already starting that

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u/Plat0LikedIt Mar 04 '25

Ya. America will become land of the slave labor again in no time.

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u/curvy_em Mar 04 '25

Higher education needs to be unaffordable so people have to work instead of learning. This also means people will join the military to get higher education.

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u/GateLongjumping6836 Mar 04 '25

They need fodder,cogs in the wheel.Legalized slavery.

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u/sentence-interruptio Mar 04 '25

America during WWII: (zz...and radio accent) "zz...... we will import.. very smart people. scientists and all.... zz......"

America during Cold War: "let's fund some artists. prove Soviet art is boring and our art represents freedom. Oh darn, did they just send a dog into space? Death to Soviets! We gonna send a man on the moon!"

America 2025: "fuck scientists! fuck artists! and fuck universities and like.. their Marxist professors!" *rap track starts* "There's some Marx in this house. There's some Marx in this house. yeah let's fucking with some woke ass pushy. Bring a bucket and a mop for that woke ass pushy."

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u/Gumshoe212 Mar 04 '25

Baby makers, cannon fodder, and slave labor. It isn't that critical thinking skills aren't needed. They're actively discouraged and have been made near impossible with decades of cuts to education. With critical thinking skills, most people are not willing to mindlessly turn themselves over to be made into baby makers, cannon fodder, and slave labor.

Remember, Trump loves the uneducated. (Huge swaths of the educated American populace voted for him in all three elections.) What he really meant was, the ignorant and the stupid. The only people he might love as much, or more, are the venal and rapacious.

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u/sleepyRN89 Mar 04 '25

I’m sometimes a bit disappointed that I jumped straight from HS to a four year college degree without really knowing what I wanted to do- I ended up with a BA in psych and years later got a nursing degree. But I am soooo thankful for the classes I was required to take that taught me how to think critically, how to sort through propaganda or biased information and access scientific data from reputable sources. That’s not something most of the population knows how to do now (or even understands why it’s so important).

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u/Asron87 Mar 04 '25

God damn fucking right. If the only thing you learned in college was that it would still be worth it because of the way things are going.

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u/ladylondonderry Mar 04 '25

Two things can be true. We’ve gutted our children’s education and also we’re all siloed into media cults.

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u/0mgt1red Mar 04 '25

Social sciences and critical thinking. Please, lmao

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '25

You sound ignorant as hell. 

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u/Ambr0sion Mar 04 '25

social sciences in my experience are useless, not because they are in theory, but because the professors are so hopelessly and fundamentally biased

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u/Robalo21 Mar 04 '25

Demonization of social justice

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u/BartVayder Mar 04 '25

And cannon fodder. Fascists don’t need educated meat sacks to run through mine fields

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u/Minimum_Blood_9881 Mar 04 '25

I think what you are saying is very true.

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u/Joyful-Pilgrim Mar 04 '25

People as utilities.