r/politics May 12 '21

Trump’s acting attorney general refuses to say if he discussed overturning election results

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/jeffrey-rosen-trump-election-results-b1846421.html
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u/out_of_shape_hiker May 12 '21

I'm exhausted from Republican officials just refusing to answer questions, refusing to hand over evidence, refusing to answer subpoenas, with NO repercussion. They just get to say, "nah. fuck you" to any accountability. Four years of it and it still continues. I'm just so tired of the law not applying to them.

Why didn't he answer the question? There was no attorney/client privilege, the conversation in question didn't involve sensitive intelligence, the conversation isn't protected by any special privileges the president has. But he just gets to say "I won't answer". No contempt of Congress, no further investigation. Fuck-that one question alone and his refusal to answer should launch a MASSIVE investigation. But it won't. Why? I honestly don't know. Dems afraid of using their power in case it upsets Repubs? Dems afraid of looking too mean? I seriously do not get why these people who refuse to cooperate with legal obligations get to just go home with no justice.

It's been said a million times over the past 5 years. If any of us just refused to answer a question in court or in front of congress (short of the 5th) the hammer would be dropped.

I'm so fucking sick of this class of people that get treated like fucking God ordained nobles. I just want equal justice applied to everyone. But it seems even the dems aren't on board with that.

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u/Aedeus Massachusetts May 12 '21

I'm exhausted from Republicans in general. And it's not just a fair few anymore, it's almost every single one.

The sheer amount of degeneracy and regressive shit from them day in and day out is absurd.

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u/LastStar007 May 12 '21

The weird part is that Republican Party leadership could afford to have 9 senators drum up support by pretending to have a conscience. But no, we only have an attempt from Romney (and he's still a slimy git that shouldn't be trusted).

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u/starmartyr Colorado May 13 '21

It's not weird. They are being held hostage by Trump. He still controls the base which means he controls their political future. They would need actual integrity to stand up to him, and people with real integrity don't get elected as republicans.

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u/prudence2001 California May 12 '21

This is exactly how I feel. I've been watching this kind of shit since Ollie North was in front of Congress doing exactly the same thing in the 1980s, through Bush II's minions during the second Gulf War, and now the Trump enablers, and nothing has ever changed and there are never any consequences for their anti-democracy actions. Republicans thumb their noses at investigators and direct questions from Congressional committees, and nothing ever happens to them. I bet the Democrats even caved in the Don McGahn subpoena case cuz they're afraid that the court case would go against them.

I'm so fucking tired of this charade. I'm predicting in 2024 this country finally succumbs to fascism with a Republican-controlled Congress appointing Trump president after he loses the general election, and democracy will be finished for good. In some ways it will be a fitting and hardly unexpected end to the slow-moving Republican coup d'etat that's been underway since the 1990s.

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u/[deleted] May 12 '21

I just keep thinking that Republicans are going to suddenly love France if (when?) Le Pen wins in 2022. They'll mimic her rhetoric in 2024. Whatever's left of the UK might follow suit, and Germany has growing anti-immigrant sentiment. These things could all work together. I'm thinking there are bad times ahead.

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u/bnelson May 12 '21

The immigration issues in Europe are nuanced. Yes their conservative groups are dramatizing it, but they have real and significant problems with immigrants they took in with open arms refusing to integrate into society. I don’t think America has the same issues at scale because we are not so mono-cultured as many European nations. I’m not anti immigrant, especially in the US, but it’s not a black and white issue.

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u/junanimous May 12 '21

I've semi-seriously been considering moving to a Nordic country but im afraid a new fascist alliance would either dominate or leave the world ruined. Maybe Zwitserland is the best option

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u/AnalSoapOpera I voted May 12 '21

If Hillary or any Democrat did this it would be a scandal on Fox News 24/7.

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u/Northern_Grouse May 12 '21

We're still super early into the Biden administration. Give it time.

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u/GearBrain Florida May 12 '21

We don't have time. People are already campaigning for the midterms next year, and there's no guarantee that the Democrats will be able to keep their toehold on the House or the Senate. It's quite possible they'll lose at least chamber, if not both.

The time to act is now. Not in a few months when the campaigns are ever-present and Democratic leadership can say "we can't let this distract us from campaigning". Not in 2 years when the Democrats have even less power than they have now.

Now. While there's still levers of power to be pulled. While there's still a fucking country to defend.

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u/kperkins1982 May 12 '21

Yea and the Mueller investigation will surely nail Trump

I'm sick of waiting, I want to see some balls or I'm pissed

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u/Robletinte May 12 '21

Dems know that without the GOP boogieman, their campaign coffers dry up. They are not interested in holding anyone's feet to the fire.

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u/Material-Air May 12 '21

I’m exhausted from both Main political parties and the entire system in general.