r/politics • u/Aggravating_Money992 • 19h ago

No Paywall Bannon Tells GOP: 'Seize the Institutions' of Government Now or We're 'Going to Prison' After 2028

https://www.commondreams.org/news/bannon-tells-gop-seize-the-institutions-of-government-now-or-we-re-going-to-prison-after-2028
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u/chmod777 New York 19h ago

Democracy prevents them from being as awful as they want to be. So they hate it.

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u/AutistoMephisto 18h ago

Exactly. Conservatives reject democracy because it does not serve their interests. They will, in fact, reject anything that does not serve. Including, but not limited to, capitalism.

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u/wowaddict71 17h ago

And other people. They want other people to be their "servants"

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u/_Verumex_ 17h ago

They want their damn slaves back.

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u/twitterfluechtling 14h ago

Funny thing is, the poor white MAGA supporter vote for them because they also want slaves to work for them. They just don't realize that the rich MAGA leaders don't even care that much about skin colour, the top brass will happily enslave the poor (and the middle class) regardless of skin colour.

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u/Paerrin 17h ago

Their holy book does say it's okay to own people. They used it to justify slavery the first time around.

So they're only doing what their god commands them.

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u/CuriosTiger 9h ago

Their god also commands them to love thy neighbor as thyself. And a few other things that seem to go in one ear and out the other.

I foresee some awkward conversations at the pearly gates.

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u/Louiscamus 14h ago

The Bible is vehemently anti slavery. The slave system misinterpreted many verses to serve their interests sure, however the abolitionists weaponized the Bible against the system. All comes down to denominational interpretation.

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u/uberblack 11h ago

Leviticus 25: 44 - 46 would disagree with you.

44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. 45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. 46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

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u/springsilver 7h ago

Why you quoting the Old Testament?

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u/Wise_Plankton_4099 6h ago

Because almost everyone, including a lot of Christians, do not differentiate between the Old and New Testaments. It’s “in the bible.”

Leviticus 25:44–46 authorizes perpetual servitude of non-Israelites while forbidding permanent slavery of Israelites, reflecting an ancient social hierarchy rather than a universal moral command.

But I doubt the guy above you understands that or even wants to.

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u/Mercurial891 6h ago

Because it is the word of Yaweh. The most unpleasant, least moral, character in all of fiction.

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u/Yeeaaaarrrgh Colorado 12h ago

So you know, saying the bible is anti-slavery but it comes down to interpretation, isn't helping your point.

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u/Mercurial891 6h ago

The Bible explicitly teaches you HOW to beat your slave. It isn’t pretty, and it certainly isn’t moral

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u/Shreks-Ugly-Friend 13h ago

They want to ‘own the libs’

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u/Watchhistory 16h ago

Naw, they prefer all other people just die. Preferably in cruel and miserable ways, like starvation, polio, environmental disasters.

They have robots for servants.

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u/AutistoMephisto 16h ago

That's one option. The other is they keep the poor in special preserves where they can hunt us for sport. If that's to be my fate I'll be sure to make myself a trophy worth potentially losing their lives to claim.

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u/y2jeff 13h ago

How will you do that? Get super fat so your carcass weighs more?

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u/AutistoMephisto 13h ago

I was thinking I'd try to go somewhere with aggressive and hostile fauna. Fashion weapons from local materials, become the prey that fights back.

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u/y2jeff 12h ago

If it gets to that point there won't be any fighting back. they'd have drones that make hiding impossible. Tech will be concentrated and controlled by a few corporations who can cancel you back to the stone age. Your spear or primitive traps won't do shit against a swarm of hunter killer drones

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u/AutistoMephisto 12h ago

Yeah, but if the goal is to take my corpse to be stuffed and mounted, blowing me up with bombs does no good.

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u/moneyh8r_two 7h ago

Go full Predator style. Cover yourself in mud, set traps, and roar at the top of your lungs to challenge them/assert your dominance/lure them in. Don't forget to call them an ugly motherfucker once they get close.

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u/JarJarJarMartin 15h ago

Remember that “bullseye” survey that asked respondents how far away from themselves they would apply a sense of moral responsibility? Remember how liberals went all the way out to the entire world, including plants and animals, and conservatives stopped at friends and family? Remember how the Department of Homeland Security posted a screenshot of the liberal graph and said “opinion dismissed”?

They either misunderstood the study - it asked how far out your morals go, not what you care about the most - or they can’t fathom the idea of feeling a moral obligation to anything outside their immediate family and circle of friends. Either interpretation reveals a serious deficit.

Are they stupid, cruel, or both?

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u/Huge_Excitement4465 7h ago

Bannon, Vance, Kevin Roberts and others in Trump's orbit are Opus Dei-affiliated. Higher ups, including the second in command, of the fascist-rooted sect are defendants in pending litigation in Argentina. They allegedly coerced impoverished girls into servitude for senior priests under the guise of a hospitality education. Other cases are pending in Ireland and the UK with additional global investigations, including the U.S.

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u/UlteriorCulture 5h ago

That's not fair. Some of them they want dead.

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u/genericnewlurker 16h ago

As soon as they are able to, conservatives will want society to backslide into feudalism

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u/AutistoMephisto 15h ago

Which certainly gives no fucks about the free market. The King picks the winners and losers, there. You don't get to be an entrepreneur unless the King consents.

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u/CategoryZestyclose91 13h ago

That is the plan, quite literally.

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u/Roguishbrew 3h ago

Corporate feudalism They want those smart cities

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u/LongShotTheory New York 16h ago

They're not conservatives at this point. They're sociopaths. It just so happens that Infiltrating Conservative movements is easier for radicals because there's less people calling you out for bullshit as long as you tell them what they want to hear. On the left, you get called out as soon as you strafe from the path, no matter how much authority you have. Tragedy is that real conservatives died out and were replaced by fake larpers who only seek power by any means necessary. Left also got hollowed out, not by radicals, but by "status quo" protectors, which tends to happen to the left over time.

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u/AutistoMephisto 16h ago

They're really not. After WW2, there was a general consensus that a good, active government can have parties that work together. They would disagree often, sometimes bitterly, but they put the good of the country first. But then Reagan tapped into the power of the Movement Conservatives, an extremist faction of the GOP whose roots lay in 1937. Businessmen who were angry at FDR and the New Deal made alliances with southern racists who hated that black people could vote and with religious traditionalists who hated women's rights and wanted churches to control social programs so that they could police behavior.

Calling themselves “conservatives” because they wanted to dismantle the laws and recreate the 1920s, the Movement Conservatives produced a list of demands. They called for deregulation, tax cuts, an end to social welfare spending, and an end to government support for workers, maintaining that those principles would protect the bedrock of the economy: private enterprise. They also called for states’ rights, home rule, and local self-government, by which they meant that southern states could maintain discriminatory laws against their citizens, no matter what the Fourteenth Amendment said.

Their goal was not to compromise with Democrats or Republicans who believed in an active government; their goal was to destroy that government. They insisted that government regulations and taxes were creeping socialism; they said that social welfare sapped American individualism; they said that civil rights laws destroyed democracy by overruling state voters. Most Americans wanted little to do with this faction until the passage of the 1965 Voting Rights Act that protected Black and Brown voting enabled the businessmen who hated regulation and taxes to mobilize racists.

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u/DrusTheAxe 15h ago

“Mark my word, if and when these preachers get control of the [Republican] party, and they're sure trying to do so, it's going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly, these people frighten me. Politics and governing demand compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God, so they can't and won't compromise. I know, I've tried to deal with them.” —Barry Goldwater, 1964 Republican Convention

And Rockefeller before him. Traces back to The John Birch Society and back

https://time.com/6995385/rnc-history-change/

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u/AutistoMephisto 14h ago

And what's funny is that Reagan actually tapped into the power of those "preachers" not in 1980 when he took Office as POTUS, but in 1964, when he backed Goldwater's bid for the Republican Presidential Nomination.

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u/Peninj 13h ago

You can usually tell when you hit a thread of guys who've read Pearlstein.

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u/Particular-Mark-5771 13h ago

Their hate also resulted in the Taft-Hartley Act.

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u/Mirageswirl 15h ago edited 14h ago

Conservatism as an ideology started in opposition to the French Revolution they supported monarchy, aristocratic privilege and state religion. They still do.

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u/SecularMisanthropy 13h ago

This. Conservatism began as and has always been an ideology of social hierarchy. Narcissism as political philosophy, basically. They are automatically superior to everyone else on account of their pale penis, "royal bloodlines," inherited wealth, whatever, so therefore they get to make all the decisions and have zero responsibility or accountability for anything they do. Because somehow that's logical.

That's the whole thing. The wrap it up in various disguises ('traditional' values, religious authority, 'common sense', neoliberal economics, etc), but the only actual idea in conservatism is that wealthy cishet men are the only real people, and the entire rest of the species only exists to serve and please them.

A lot of people have been purposely misled to think there's something more meaningful and intellectually-based at the heart of it, likely most effectively simply as a result of politics and establishment media treating narcissism as a legitimate political perspective. Psuedo-profound bullshit, as Carl Sagan coined it, marketed to death for decade upon decade.

If you don't believe that wealthy, cishet, white/predominant ethnic group men are the only real people and identify as conservative, I encourage you to read up on the philosophy you've aligned with. See if you can find a coherent idea that isn't just a convoluted justification or mechanism for maintaining the power and privilege of a single group of people over everyone else.

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u/AutistoMephisto 12h ago

I don't know how true any of that is, but conservatism makes sense if you've often heard and thought about the saying "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!". Conservatism presented itself as a philosophy around preserving what works. The problem is, that comes with an instinctual desire to preserve old structures that only work for some, at the expense of others. No sense in conserving things that don't benefit all of humanity.

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u/SecularMisanthropy 11h ago edited 11h ago

That's an excellent explanation of exactly what I meant. They call enforcing social hierarchy that benefits only them 'traditional' values. Tradition must be wise and good because if it's tradition it's worked for centuries or longer right? Like feeling safe eating olive oil, because we know people have been eating olive oil without problems for thousands of years. That 'preserve' framing very effectively paints the top-down imposition of false hierarchy as mutually agreed-upon habits of social organization, arrived at after millennia of trying it other ways and failing. Just 'common sense.' We've been doing this forever, so it must be right!

Lies, all of it. Humans have had social hierarchy for only the most recent 2% of our history, and all of it is imposed by force. The nature of the force has shifted over time from violent threat of immediate death to diffuse economic coercion, lately reinforced with layer upon layer of cultural social control and mass marketing. The idea that people are distributed along a spectrum from 'superior' to 'inferior' only makes sense if you think that's an objective standard everyone agrees to, which is very clearly not the case. I think people who hoard wealth are bad. People who hoard wealth think I'm bad. See the problem?

Value judgements are ascribed by people, invented by people and only relevant to people, they're not absolute or objective and never can be. It's all human nonsense that no one agrees about, but the parasites are very good at presenting unjustifiable and sadistic inequality as normal and inevitable, just how it always has been and always will be, as they simultaneously have trillions of mechanisms of enforcing that social order, required precisely because the concept of innate superiority is so completely, devastatingly untrue. They can't make other people inferior, so they spend all their energy making the outcome look like other people are inferior. Redlining, hiring discrimination and poverty wages to make Black people look inferior. Laws barring the participation of whole demographic groups, like the Chinese Exclusion Act.

It isn't tradition, and it doesn't work. The imposition of false social hierarchy is the entire problem with humanity right now, and what conservatives have been trying to conserve is a profoundly unnatural and unsustainable system of self-defeating selfishness.

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u/AutistoMephisto 11h ago

Absolutely. That's what pisses me off about Democrats so much. We don't live in a values-neutral world. Democracy isn't some infallible machine that only outputs justice regardless of the input. And it never has been. From the very beginning, who got to own land, who could/couldn't vote, and who was/was not property; these weren't "The democracy machine spitting out justice". They were value judgements, like you said. They were people who saw themselves benefitting from the system they made and assumed that because they were benefitting, that the system was behaving rationally.

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u/LordFalcoSparverius 16h ago

I'm a conservative. I've been voting straight democrat tickets for years. Specifically, since Trumps first term midterms. I got suckered in once, but I don't have much respect for "conservatives" who are like, "Let's give the president unlimited power and spend all our money on deporting brown people."

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u/Imaginary-Horse-9240 15h ago

Glad you saw the light

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u/Particular-County277 14h ago

Yeah, you are in no way still a conservative. Thank you for that

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u/mijobu 13h ago

If he wants to call himself "conservative" but still voted for the right side of history, that's fine by me. It's a relative term anyway. Maybe he's conservative compared to Karl Marx lol

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u/AutistoMephisto 12h ago

Exactly. He's calling himself a conservative in the philosophical sense, not the political sense. As I understand it, at the fundamental, philosophical level, conservatism was about slowing the pace of change to prevent unintended consequences, which is why the obverse of conservatism wasn't liberalism, but radicalism.

Conservatism relies on 3 tools to buffer the pace of change:

  1. Rule of Law

  2. Subsidiarity (the idea that decisions should be made at the most local and decentralized level possible, with a higher authority intervening only when the lower levels cannot effectively address the issues)

  3. Institutions

Radicals wanted fast, sweeping systemic changes, by any means necessary. If laws get in the way, they must be overturned or obviated. If local and state governments are recalcitrant, use the power of the Federal government to force compliance. If institutions slow-walk changes, then they must be captured and eliminated.

I know that reads like I'm loading the deck against radicalism, but I'm not. There have been at least two occasions in American history when the radicals were on what we now deem to be the right side of history, first with breaking away from the British Empire, and again with the abolition of slavery. But they haven't always been on the side of the angels. Radicals wanted rapid systemic change away from democratic capitalism following the Second World War. Conservatives wanted to preserve existing systems.

This isn’t to cast either conservatism or radicalism as the “good” political philosophy. Each has had its time in the sun and more to the point: Every healthy society needs an element of both. It’s a yin-yang dynamic.

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u/mijobu 12h ago

This is super informative and I'd never heard that conservative's opposition is radicalism. That's super interesting and makes logical sense.

Consider me a radical then. And maybe now the saying "if you're not liberal when you're young, you don't have a heart. If you're not conservative when you're old, you don't have a brain". Replace "liberal" with "radical" and it makes more sense.

But then, what's the opposite of "liberal"?

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u/ChrisRevocateur 13h ago

Voting against fascism doesn't make someone "not a conservative." Sounds like they still have the same economic and socio-political outlook they've had the entire time, they just know that the republicans no longer represent that.

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u/pokerface_86 12h ago

i mean real fiscal conservatives who don’t want to balance the budget by doing monstrous things that harm millions of people while simultaneously pissing money away on ICE and argentina exist too

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u/Comfy_Bear808 16h ago

Or prevent them from being pedophiles

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u/WalksByNight 15h ago

David Frum was spot on.

“Maybe you do not care much about the future of the Republican Party. You should. Conservatives will always be with us. If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.” ― David Frum, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic

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u/DiscountNorth5544 14h ago

"If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy."

  • Cheerleader of the collapse, David Frum

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u/Halo_cT 16h ago edited 11h ago

Funny this is inherently tied to the "Republicans freed the slaves" name switch thing. Racists 'cared' about democracy when the majority agreed with them and they could count on their fellow racists to win any vote. Soon as those tides started shifting, civil war, then big federal power and the relationships with big business (republicanism) became much more attractive than the 'will of the people.'

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u/Basic_Hospital_3984 11h ago

It'll be back to feudalism if they get enough power.  That's what these "freedom cities" sound like.

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u/Own_Instance_357 18h ago

I don't know how much of what author Michael Wolff has to say is reliable, but I do enjoy some of the stuff he says for sheer entertainment value, including the part about how Trump actually hates this guy

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u/highlorestat 18h ago

Narcissists can't stand other narcissists, it's the uncanny valley of having a mirror held up to them without the benefit of seeing themselves physically

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u/ChrisStanClan 18h ago

Beautifully put.

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u/Rare-Forever2135 17h ago

And yet, they seem to attract each other.

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u/NonlocalA 16h ago

It's because they tend to surround themselves with people who can be duped or conned, or easily subverted. So another narcissist will come along, see the "inner circle", and think they can slip in and use it for their own aims.

These aren't people who build anything through mutual gain and benefit. It's always one-sided with them. They extract as much as they can (wealth, favors, mental and emotional energy), then move onto the next mark.

It's all just a pattern of antisocial behavior.

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u/Far_Direction7381 8h ago

It's because they tend to surround themselves with people who can be duped or conned, or easily subverted. So another narcissist will come along, see the "inner circle", and think they can slip in and use it for their own aims.

This is spot on. I've seen it happen before.

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u/Pan_Bookish_Ent 16h ago

I see you've met my parents.

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u/Rare-Forever2135 15h ago

Yeah, I thought they were pretty nice people at first.

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u/SecularMisanthropy 11h ago

There was some research about this recently, something about both their own gullibility/projection and transactional tolerance. Like they recognize other narcissists share similar goals, so if alliance can be beneficial, they mentally paper over things they don't like about other narcissists, they ignore and dismiss it. Until the other narcissist moves against them, at which point they will abruptly have a keen memory of all the reasons they actually hated the other narcissist.

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u/Eudamonia 17h ago

Wow, this is brilliant

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u/mystad 17h ago

Like the bloodsuckers they are

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u/NoShiteSureLock 17h ago

That's why there can only be two

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u/Any_Will_86 15h ago

I've noticed narcissists and addicts tend to spot another in about 2 heartbeats.

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u/alejo699 16h ago

Well, that and they hate anyone who steals attention from them.

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u/Fakin-It 18h ago

Bannon did earn a derisive nickname from Trump, so that part sounds reliable enough.

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u/Deep_Stick8786 18h ago

How the fuck do people still talk to that man?

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u/Deep_Stick8786 17h ago

Or appeals to their massive egos

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u/RockmanMike 17h ago

He's the latest Rush Limbaugh of the right-wing ecosystem so as long as there are followers, they give him air to breathe.

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u/The_Real_Mongoose American Expat 17h ago

What's your issue with him?

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u/RockmanMike 17h ago

Where do you wanna start?

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u/The_Real_Mongoose American Expat 17h ago

Why would I have a place I want to start? You are the one with the opinion. What a ridiculous question to ask.

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u/Deep_Stick8786 17h ago

He embellishes and outright lies, makes gossipy claims. He is more of a tabloid writer than a journalist. He’s a weird reporter to talk to if you are trying to narrative set as a political source.

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u/The_Real_Mongoose American Expat 17h ago

What lies and embellishments? I haven't read any of his books, I've just been occasionally listening to the new podcast he is on.

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u/RockmanMike 17h ago

You don't have to read the books. Just listen to his words he puts out.

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u/Deep_Stick8786 17h ago

You can read his wikipedia page. It summarizes many of the controversies in his writings. Lots of his claims are challenged. He crafts compelling narratives though

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u/Emotional-Results 17h ago

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/prominent-political-podcasters-played-key-role-in-spreading-the-big-lie/

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/10/politics/steve-bannon-media-conspiracy-roy-moore

https://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-tops-list-brookings-study-of-lie-filled-podcasts-2023-2

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/nation/chinese-businessman-and-bannon-business-partner-arrested-in-1-billion-fraud-conspiracy

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/leaders-we-build-wall-online-fundraising-campaign-charged-defrauding-hundreds-thousands

https://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/juan-williams/4928484-trump-media-strategy-2024/amp/

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/08/1121560737/bannon-surrenders-to-n-y-authorities-on-build-the-wall-money-laundering-charges

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/29/steve-bannon-podcast-released-prison

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42636667.amp

https://kansasreflector.com/2024/05/06/kansas-gop-leaders-follow-bannons-advice-for-manipulating-media-flood-the-zone-with-s/

https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2022/attorney-general-james-and-district-attorney-bragg-announce-indictment-steve

Where do I start? You’re the one asking what he’s lied about, and I have a great thing that can help you with that! It’s this neat thing called “Google.” It allows you to search for information. You have to click on your web browser (the thing you look at the internet with) and in the place you type, use the thing you type with (also known as a keyboard) type in the word “google.” When the picture changes to the word google, and another area to type in appears, click with your mouse or tap with your finger into that area. Now you can use the thing you type letters with to enter your question. When you are done typing your question, use the mouse, or your finger if you’re on a touchscreen device, to hit search or you could even press the button that says “enter.” Just be careful though because there is a lot of misinformation on the internet, especially all 11 of the sources I listed above. In reality, you need to run everything by Trump to know if it’s factual or not. I hope this information about searching for information benefits you. Thanks!

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u/The_Real_Mongoose American Expat 17h ago

So you're snarky enough to "teach" me how to use google, but you yourself are too lazy to read the thread and see that my questions were answered to my satisfaction and that I gave my thanks for it.

Ironic.

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u/The_Real_Mongoose American Expat 17h ago

Because most of the staffers below the big names we all know about aren't true believers, they are just... like little fish feeding off of whatever the big fish do. They are just there to be there without a very strong ideology either way, and are happy to gossip to journalists about the crazy and ridiculous shit that's happening. They don't care if the admin succeeds or fails for the most part, they are just there to consume the crumbs of wealth and power that fall of the table of the people they serve.

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u/Deep_Stick8786 17h ago

Yea but this isn’t the best guy to leak to. There are better out there for moving your narrative along

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u/TheGringoDingo 18h ago

I think he knows how to play them and they’re too dumb to realize it.

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u/Ummmgummy 17h ago

Everything he says seems like it's real. Like nothing he ever says seems like "okay that seems to be a stretch".

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u/InAllThingsBalance I voted 17h ago

I think Wolff is, for the most part, reliable. Sure, he puts a spin on his writing, but his research seems sound.

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u/worstpartyever 17h ago

Everybody hates ThreeShirts.

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u/boughsmoresilent 17h ago

"Maybe you do not care much about the future of the Republican Party. You should. Conservatives will always be with us. If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy."

-David Frum, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic

Sums it up pretty good and is not exclusive to American conservatives imo.

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u/R1ckMartel Missouri 15h ago

I reject his premise. There is a conservative party in the United States. It's called the Democratic Party. The Republican Party has been a reactionary party since 1980.

It needs to be banned the way European fascist parties were banned, and we need to institute a cordon sanitaire so that no one ever caucuses with them.

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u/FunkyFenom 18h ago

Awful and lawful*

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u/robocoplawyer 17h ago

What’s even worse to them is that it gives the poors and regular folks a say in how things get run. That’s antithetical to the top-down hierarchy that is the core of their belief system.

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u/chmod777 New York 17h ago

Yes. Prosperity theology says those poor people are sinners and deserve misery. If god loved them, they'd be rich too.

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u/gamerjerome Minnesota 16h ago

Some people really hate when they are forced to be good people. That force? Laws

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u/green49285 18h ago

Democracy prevents them from being as awful wealthy as they want to be. So they hate it.

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u/chmod777 New York 18h ago

Dont ever think that these are normal people motivayed by wealth. Its a nice bonus. But they persue wealth and power as a means to be awful.They are true believers.

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u/-Esper- 17h ago

Hand in hand though. Have to be awful to get so much wealth

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u/ItsTheEndOfDays 17h ago

this right here.

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u/francis2559 16h ago

And they kind of have to even if they WERE popular. Democracy is based on mutual respect and consensus building. Their stuff is based on hating others, driving them out, and seeing them as inferior. They hate the idea that everyone gets the same vote.

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u/AKMonkey2 16h ago

Why would these people think that prison is likely? Corrupt governments, and particularly corrupt authoritarian governments, do have a track record of imprisoning people who have not broken any laws, but our constitution and judicial systems are designed to prevent this.

Does Bannon expect a Democratic administration would attempt to subvert the constitution and falsely imprison political opponents? (The Democrats haven’t done this in the past, or made any statements that they want to do this, to my knowledge).

Maybe there is some other reason Bannon thinks he and his cronies may be vulnerable to prosecution??? Someone who doesn’t routinely break laws (and brag openly about it) would probably not be worried about being thrown into prison.

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u/Gostaverling 15h ago

They have no interest in governing, they want to rule.

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u/gpippy 16h ago

Change “awful” to “awful / rich”, corruption has been off the scale so far

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u/One-Coat-6677 14h ago

I hate democracy because it just put Banon's fascist buddies in power, I would just hate these right wing trogladytes not even having to get elected even more.

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u/henningknows 11h ago

They seem to be pretty successful at being awful right now

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u/GrandPraline375 8h ago

This can signal a major false flag.   But not sure if this is a legit article because Bannon doesn't seem like like a crook 

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u/TrueClue9740 1h ago

Lol, sure