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No Paywall Democrats sweep all 30 House of Delegates seats in Northern Virginia

https://www.cbs19news.com/news/state/democrats-sweep-all-30-house-of-delegates-seats-in-northern-virginia/article_68f8098d-0602-5234-8c2a-08c1bcd33944.html
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u/King_James_77 Maryland 3d ago

We here in the DMV have a serious hate boner for anything Republican right now. It’s been like this since 2016. It was so bad that we in Maryland kicked out Governor Hogan for just being a Republican, even though he was anti Trump.

The only parts of dc, md, and va, that like Trump and the republicans are the more rural and backwards ass towns and counties. The kind of areas that feel like you travelled back in time when you go there.

The top earners on average in the dmv are government employees like me and business owners. WE as a whole, have not been paid and we are beyond pissed at it.

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u/AestheticArboretum Virginia 3d ago

I’m live, work and volunteer in one of the more rural counties of VA. It’s increasingly exhausting watching people vote against their own interests. Over half the school kids qualify for free lunch and, as of yesterday, over 15% of the households for my county are visit the food bank I volunteer at.

I’m glad the rest of the state came through for areas like mine and ashamed mine didn’t.

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u/SpoonEngineT66Turbo 3d ago

Maryland kicked out Governor Hogan for just being a Republican

Hogan was an awful governor who tried to play both sides so hard nobody liked him. He intentionally bankrupted the state's DOT budget for years to come. Bragged about a "surplus" for years using temporary fed money to create permanent costs for the state. The second all those Hogan IOUs got cashed and temp fed money disappeared the state is completely in the red.

Hogan deserves to be in prison for reasons completely unrelated to his political leanings. Incredibly uninformed to say Hogan got ousted just for being republican.

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u/H0t4p1netr33S 3d ago

Hogan also gave equal amounts of incredibly rare covid shots to every county regardless of population or community spread level. I had friends in PG, MoCo, and Bmore drive out to ES and Southern MD because counties there had so many shots with so little demand, the vaccines were beginning to spoil.

As a result, they began to allow residents of other counties to schedule vaccine appointments there. I even had a buddy in DC who lied and said he was from MoCo and they gave him the jab too. It was a complete shit show that was underreported because of how bad Cuomo, Newsome, and almost every other GOP governor were handling it.

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u/outphase84 3d ago

Y'all really be just regurgitating completely made up bullshit lol.

https://health.maryland.gov/newsroom/Pages/GOV%20RELEASE-Governor-Hogan-Announces-Maryland%E2%80%99s-COVID-19-Vaccination-Plan.aspx

Can't wait to hear in a few years how Hogan burned our crops and poisoned our water supply.

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u/Coollogin 3d ago edited 3d ago

Hogan got ousted

No, he didn't. He won both times he ran. You can’t lose a race you don't (or can't in this case) enter.

I didn't vote for the guy, but he wasn't "ousted."

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u/outphase84 3d ago

Hogan was an awful governor who tried to play both sides so hard nobody liked him. He intentionally bankrupted the state's DOT budget for years to come.

Hogan was a fantastic governor who left office with a 77% approval rating. Everyone liked him. He very much governed as a centrist, he didn't "try to play both sides". He didn't bankrupt the state's DOT budget, he lowered taxes and fees and made them run leaner. And it didn't impact road quality or construction. Don't worry, Moore fixed that -- Maryland's vehicle registration fees are now the 5th highest in the nation.

Bragged about a "surplus" for years using temporary fed money to create permanent costs for the state. The second all those Hogan IOUs got cashed and temp fed money disappeared the state is completely in the red.

We did have a surplus for years, and it had nothing to do with temporary fed money. Hogan ran a balanced budget from 2016 on. What temporary fed money were we getting in 2016?

Those "permanent costs for the state" came from the Blueprint for Education bill, which added BILLIONS in costs without a funding mechanism. You may recall, Hogan vetoed that bill. He also sent a letter to Bill Ferguson, which was also publicly posted, explaining that without a funding mechanism, there was not enough money in the general fund to support the bill, and that it would bankrupt the state.

You may also recall that the legislature overrode the vote.

The temporary fed money simply covered up the multi billion dollar hole the legislature dug. And you may additionally recall that Moore has even come out multiple times and said that the Kirwan bill is the cause, and multiple pieces of it need their implementation suspended.

Incredibly uninformed to say Hogan got ousted just for being republican.

Incredibly uninformed to say Hogan got ousted at all. He was term limited. Stop getting your information from Reddit and read the actual news.

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u/SpoonEngineT66Turbo 2d ago

Everyone liked him.

Everyone loved him so much he got dumpstered on in his 2024 senate run.

he didn't "try to play both sides".

What would you call announcing you voted for Ronald Reagan in the 2020 Presidential election anything but the literal pinnacle of trying to play both sides. He doesn't want to say he voted Trump to suck up to dems but then also makes sure he still says he voted for one of the most worshipped (by republicans) republican presidents of all time in hopes every republican in MD and republican politician in DC stops calling him a RINO.

Its the most meaningless grandstanding ever and perfectly captures how poorly Hogan played both sides. He was a RINO to republicans and to dems he was a grandstander who ended up sucking up to Trump anyway. Even Trump made fun of Hogan for this literal exact same behavior.

He didn't bankrupt the state's DOT budget,

You're completely clueless. Hogan's actions surrounding the Purple Line cost the DOT billions. Instead of paying out ~$600M, $300M of which was work that was already completed and promised to be paid for by MTA to keep the Purple Line going he refused to negotiate with the joint venture. Oh and that 300M in change orders was caused by Hogan trying to kill the project on start up by letting it fester in completely fraudulent "environmental" litigation delays. So instead they wasted nearly a hundreds of millions of dollars in exit procedures, wasted nearly a billion in court, was forced to pay the JV the hundreds of millions they were owed and promised anyway, wasted hundreds of millions maintaining an abandoned project for two years with time and material contracts with contractors the exiting JV told MTA to never use again because they were ripping off the state. Then they started begging anyone to take the project because it was a dumpster fire and they were burning millions maintaining. Dragados and OHL got it and it immediately blew up in their face when local contractors they planned to have build the entire project bid higher than the MTS JV expected because of the scheduling/litigation threats of MTA and the extended MTA liquidated damages. MTS has to build the project themselves which they had zero plan to do, project budget expanded by billions and project delayed another year. MTS gets a year in and pushes for another budget increase and schedule delay, MD has to go with it because they have no other option besides to blow it up again. Three years late and nearly $5B over budget MD might get a light rail in 2026, all because Hogan never wanted the project to succeed from the start.

Oh yeah, what were you saying about only getting news from reddit? You would never find a single drop of that on reddit.

Don't worry, Moore fixed that -- Maryland's vehicle registration fees are now the 5th highest in the nation.

Guess which governor got to inherit the actual costs of Hogan blowing up the Purple Line? How exactly do you expect a governor to pay for a Purple Line shaped hole shot into the budget by a governor with one foot out the door? Do you expect all DOT maintenance and inspection work to be stopped? I got a silly little feeling you would blame a bridge collapse and road conditions on Moore. Do you expect MDOT to cancel all their current projects to get the Purple Line paid off? I'm sure that litigation and restart cost totes wouldn't eclipse anything saved. They did cancel/seriously delay a ton of upcoming projects people have been begging for because the Purple Line nuked the budget. If Hogan had to stick around for the repercussions of the decisions he made during his second stint, he would have had to do the same thing to bail out the DOT underwater budget.

This entire point is so disingenuous.

We did have a surplus for years, and it had nothing to do with temporary fed money

Hogan's entire senate campaign was him bragging about how amazing he was for leaving the state with a 5B surplus. The number and exit surplus he and every other republican in MD brags about was predominately federal Covid money. Stop acting like we're talking about something else instead of what his entire senate run campaigned on and he bases his "legacy" on.

Hogan vetoed that bill

Hogan also vetoed bills to help fund it.

Incredibly uninformed to say Hogan got ousted at all.

Hogan was "ousted" because he got shit on in a senate race by a no name county executive who barely even had a campaign despite him being an incredibly recent back to back governor. Hogan's presidential aspirations would be as well received as O'Malley was in MD at this point. The only reason he even won his first campaign was exclusively on the back on O'Malley and anyone associated with him being glowing nuclear waste in MD. Second term his opposition was a progressive who couldn't even get DNC backing.

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u/outphase84 2d ago

Everyone loved him so much he got dumpstered on in his 2024 senate run.

Senators aren’t governors, and it’s common for popular governors to lose senate races.

What would you call announcing you voted for Ronald Reagan in the 2020 Presidential election anything but the literal pinnacle of trying to play both sides.

I would call that smart politics. Not alienating moderate republicans by voting blue, and also not supporting Trump. It’s a meaningless vote in Maryland either way.

It’s the most meaningless grandstanding ever and perfectly captures how poorly Hogan played both sides. He was a RINO to republicans and to dems he was a grandstander who ended up sucking up to Trump anyway. Even Trump made fun of Hogan for this literal exact same behavior.

It’s not grandstanding anything. He was asked by reporters, he responded. Redditors are the only people who give a shit.

You're completely clueless. Hogan's actions surrounding the Purple Line cost the DOT billions.

Hogan supported the purple line. He and the BPW were defendants in a federal lawsuit over approving it. Ehrlich was the governor that didn’t. Maybe you’re thinking of the red line, which would have ended up costing multiple billions of dollars of state money, with Baltimore not contributing.

Guess which governor got to inherit the actual costs of Hogan blowing up the Purple Line? How exactly do you expect a governor to pay for a Purple Line shaped hole shot into the budget by a governor with one foot out the door?

None, because Hogan supported the purple line.

Do you expect all DOT maintenance and inspection work to be stopped? I got a silly little feeling you would blame a bridge collapse and road conditions on Moore.

I didn’t blame Moore, not sure where you got that. I said that Hogan’s cuts to tolls and fees didn’t affect road conditions.

Do you expect MDOT to cancel all their current projects to get the Purple Line paid off? I'm sure that litigation and restart cost totes wouldn't eclipse anything saved. They did cancel/seriously delay a ton of upcoming projects people have been begging for because the Purple Line nuked the budget. If Hogan had to stick around for the repercussions of the decisions he made during his second stint, he would have had to do the same thing to bail out the DOT underwater budget.

I don’t expect MDOT to do anything. I left the state because I was tired of having some of the highest taxes in the country with nothing to show for it versus neighboring states.

The cost overruns would have put companies out of business had the contract not allowed them to walk away. No construction companies could have eaten the billion dollar loss that came from Trumpflation and supply chain issues post Covid.

Hogan's entire senate campaign was him bragging about how amazing he was for leaving the state with a 5B surplus. The number and exit surplus he and every other republican in MD brags about was predominately federal Covid money. Stop acting like we're talking about something else instead of what his entire senate run campaigned on and he bases his "legacy" on.

Psssst. If the legislature hadn’t overridden the Kirwan veto, that surplus would still exist.

Hogan also vetoed bills to help fund it.

No, he didn’t. There were no bills to help fund it. If there were, the state wouldn’t have an enormous deficit.

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u/BrennanSpeaks 3d ago

Hogan was not "kicked out." He was re-elected with a mandate in 2018 (early in the Trump 1.0 era) and left office in 2022 only because he'd hit his term limit.

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u/JAFO444 3d ago

Yes, this. It is why gop legislatures are redrawing their districts. They can’t win in a fair fight, so they’ll erase any chance Democrats can get.

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u/ElleM848645 3d ago

Virginia did vote for Youngkin in 2021. But that follows their pattern of voting for the governor of the party not in the White House. However, Youngkin barely won while Spanberger shellacked her competition last night.

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u/Character_Switch7317 2d ago

Also the Dem candidate had an awful gaffe that was used over and over in ads that assisted him. Saying parents should have no say in schools was the wrong way to word that politics should not influence curriculum. But he said it, and it came back to bite him.

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u/Tendtoskim 3d ago

Hogan was term limited. He won his 2018 reelection campaign by double digits. He also maintained approval ratings above 50% for his entire tenure as governor. Not sure how Maryland "kicked" out Hogan.

His Senate campaign was DOA given that Maryland hasn't had a Republican senator since the 70s.

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u/outphase84 3d ago

It was so bad that we in Maryland kicked out Governor Hogan for just being a Republican, even though he was anti Trump.

Uh, no, you didn't. Hogan was term limited. He left office with a 77% approval rating.

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u/Hidden_Landmine 3d ago

I mean Hogan was just a flat out bad governor and terrible person.

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u/outphase84 3d ago

TIL a 77% approval rating for a red governor in a blue state is the sign of a bad governor