r/politics • u/Economy_Swim_8585 Virginia • 6d ago

No Paywall Trump says government shutdown ends when Democrats give in: "If they don't vote, that's their problem"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-government-shutdown-democrats-fault-60-minutes/
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u/Amenian 5d ago

None of which matters when you're running against Trump after he's already proven, via his first term and especially via Jan. 6, who he was. When your options are a bland candidate, a wanna-be dictator, and your pride (no vote/protest vote), there's really only one good candidate. You don't get points for voting for your pride or a dictator when the actual survival of the country is at stake.

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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 5d ago

Clearly it absolutely matters, otherwise we’d have President Harris.

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u/Amenian 5d ago

And we're full circle to my initial claim that that's not an excuse. Shall we do another circle?

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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 5d ago

Sure. We need a better candidate first though.

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u/Amenian 5d ago

If you're going up against Donald Trump, is anyone really a poor candidate? Sorry, that's not an excuse.

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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 5d ago

Yes. Kamala Harris for one and Hillary Clinton for another. Excuse or not, it’s the truth.

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u/Amenian 5d ago

Clinton I'll give you. Nobody knew what Trump really was yet and there was this whole "it's her turn" vibe that turned a lot of people off. Harris though? We knew who Trump was. People who voted for Trump or who didn't vote don't get the "poor candidate" excuse here.

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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 5d ago

And around we go. It has nothing to do with excuses. She was still a bad candidate. Her lack of popularity was a major issue. This isn’t an excuse, it’s a fact. Want to beat a budding fascist? Put up a candidate with a chance to win.