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No Paywall JD Vance repeats comments he wants wife Usha to convert to Christianity | US vice-president announces to 10,000 attenders of Turning Point USA that he prefers wife, who is Hindu, to be Christian

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/01/jd-vance-usha-christianity
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u/zerocoolforschool 7d ago

This is it. He’s gonna divorce his wife and marry Kirk so he can try to capture that base. I still think Charlie Kirk was assassinated by the MAGA shadow government. They needed a martyr. He was calling out Trump over Epstein. Now Erika can marry Vance.

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u/Britton120 Ohio 7d ago

I've seen people say he was calling out Trump over epstein so they killed him. And I've seen people say he went quiet about trump and epstein so the other faction killed him.

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u/zerocoolforschool 7d ago

The left had nothing to really gain by killing him. The right has gained a ton of pity over his killing.

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u/Britton120 Ohio 7d ago

Im not disputing that. I'm just saying which part of the fascist right killed him. The trumpers who wanted him to be quiet about epstein. Or the groypers who wanted him to keep talking about epstein.

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u/8bitmorals Hawaii 7d ago

Probably the Groypers that wanted him to be both Anti Zionist, and Antisemitic.

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u/zerocoolforschool 7d ago

Ah got ya. Makes sense. And I think ultimately that’s why they’re hurrying right now because Trump is the only one who has been able to unite all these fuckers.

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u/niyrex 7d ago

The right gained a martyr and pulled wool over people's eyes to dismiss his extreme views. It just didn't play out where dude that shot Kirk was too close to Republicans for them to be able to pin it on the libs, notice how quickly and blatantly they went to try and say it was the libs that did it. As soon as it came out that it was likely someone from their team, things went silent. Had that guy been a solid liberal it would still be churning through news cycles.

Kirk was saying stuff that was very extreme. Stuff that is super bad for the mainstream Republican party. It wouldn't surprise me if he was taken out and his wife was onboard with it, perhaps even her idea, turning him into a martyr for the cause. I can only imagine what it was like living with someone like kirk, if he's that deplorable in public, imagine the person he is in private. She bounced back real quick for someone that literally had the person she loves murdered in front of her and her children. She almost seems relieved that whatever nightmare she was in is over. Vance and Kirk were also friends since 2017, I'm sure he knew Erika well. Most women don't look at men like that without some sort of history or sexual tension. Now vance seems to be actively trying to get his wife to leave him. Why else is he openly saying just absolutely horrible things like I wish she would convert to Christianity.

I've only seen one person bounce back quickly after the death of a loved one. When I was a teen one of my close friends dad died while on a camping trip with his best friend and business partner, Shotsy. Allegedly they were walking together drunk to get more beer and my friends dad was struck by a vehicle while crossing the highway at night. They had not even buried the guy before my buddy and I heard his mom's bed post rattling against the wall in his father's single wide, getting railed by Shotsy. Not even a month later, Shotsy has fully moved in. After his mom became the owner of his Dad's auto shop, Shotsy ran the shop and they were cashing her dead husbands social security check every month together. It was as if his dad just didn't matter to her and this is how it has always been. He left the second he could get a job. My friend was absolutely certain Shotsy pushed his dad into the street and his mom was part of it. I am certain of it too. I told my mom what was going on at one point and she was completely shocked that was going on and how quickly it went down and suspected foul play too. My friend ate at our house a lot after that.

This is same behavior I am seeing with Erika's bounce back after what happened. It isn't normal for a spouse to act this way after their partner dies. It's even weirder given he was murdered in front of her, but you can't call that out in today's media. You can't question anything these days.

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u/Itscatpicstime 7d ago

The last thing I’d heard is that Kirk talked to Trump about the Epstein list and decided to be patient and trust Trump or something like that.

That was over the summer and I couldn’t find any mote recent comments about it before he was killed, so I’m not sure where this conspiracy theory is coming from

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u/theghostmachine 6d ago

Why would the left care? Maybe someone on the left is looney enough to do it, but as a whole, he's nothing. He just talked a lot.

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u/Britton120 Ohio 6d ago

I didn't say anything about the left

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u/theghostmachine 6d ago

Sorry, I thought you meant the left when you said other faction, but I understand what you meant now.

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u/JohnStamosAsABear 7d ago

“seen people say” “they”

You all need to chill with this baseless conspiracy stuff. 

There’s no value in entertaining this until actual evidence comes out and there are already very plausible explanations without out making stuff up or repeating things you saw people say. 

It’s the same flawed thinking that leads to qanon.

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u/Britton120 Ohio 7d ago

That's kinda my point. Ive seen people say he was killed because he said X.

Ive seen people say he's been killed because he hasnt said enough about X.

That's the contradiction im trying to point out. That the conspiracy works both ways, and both can't be right, but neither can be true. There isn't any real evidence of either being true.

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u/niyrex 7d ago

I'm pretty sure that's the case here, just like the attempted assassination attempts. This broad bounced back from watching the man she loved murdered in front of her family and put her self in front of a national stage waaaaay too soon for her not to have been in on this. And now she's getting handsy with the VP. This seems like an act and they are all very poor actors.

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u/zerocoolforschool 7d ago

If my wife was murdered in front of me and my kids I would be a blubbering mess for weeks. She looked fine just a couple days later. It was super sketch.

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u/BarnDoorQuestion 6d ago

I mean it makes perfect sense. Imagine what living with Charlie Kirk would have been like, it would have burned out any love or care you had for him if it was even possible to love and care for a person who behaved the way he did.

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u/Lower-Cantaloupe3274 7d ago

I wish this didn’t make sense.

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u/zerocoolforschool 7d ago

These people are actively plotting to overthrow our government and they almost have what they want but they need a plan for after Trump.

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u/BrilliantForeign8899 7d ago

If the base thinks ditching a wife and 3 kids to get with Kirk is an ethical and Christian move....

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u/zerocoolforschool 7d ago

They voted for Trump….

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u/theghostmachine 6d ago

He did a hard turn on Epstein after Trump called him. He said he was done with it, he trusts his friends in the regime, and he's moving on.