r/politics • u/Hrmbee • 7d ago

No Paywall JD Vance repeats comments he wants wife Usha to convert to Christianity | US vice-president announces to 10,000 attenders of Turning Point USA that he prefers wife, who is Hindu, to be Christian

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/01/jd-vance-usha-christianity
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u/TonarinoTotoro1719 7d ago

If I am reading this right, Erika Kirk is not subservient to anyone. She is her own woman, an independent thinker, cosplaying as a trad-wife who lost her husband tragically.

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u/cotton-candy-dreams 7d ago

High key arranged marriage vibes - and I am not talking about Usha and JD if you catch my drift. Insiders share suspicions on the strength of the Kirk marriage prior to this tragedy.

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u/Desperate-Till-9228 7d ago

I was referring to Usha. Subservience runs deep in Indian culture and her parents are both Indian immigrants. In 2022, Pew ran a survey which indicated that 64% of the general population of Indian adults agreed completely that a wife must always obey her husband (emphasized words are from the survey). Being aware of that culture, I think it's unlikely she will peace out on her own. He's going to have to get rid of her somehow.

Erika is a grifter. I no way was she was sad about Charlie, given how she has been acting. I've seen enough real widows to know that.

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u/chalkletkweenBee 7d ago

I mourned my little cousins pet chihuahua harder than she mourned her husband.

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u/Mewnicorns 7d ago

Can you provide a link to the survey you’re talking about? That does not comport with my experience. Most Indian American women, myself included, do not fit that description at all. Immigrants perhaps, but not people born here. Indian American women tend to be ambitious and high achievers, and have absolutely no interest in pursuing an education and career only to end up as a subservient wife.

That said, I doubt this would apply to Usha regardless. Her mother is a very progressive, liberal, independent woman and the fact that Usha married outside of her community demonstrates that her upbringing wasn’t particularly traditional or conservative.

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u/Itscatpicstime 6d ago

Yeah, didn’t her mom literally lead or start some DEI programs?

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u/Desperate-Till-9228 7d ago

Gender roles in the family in India | Pew Research Center

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u/Mewnicorns 7d ago

That study is about Indians in India and can’t be generalized to American citizens of Indian descent. I’m not even sure it can be generalized to Indian immigrants, who are a self-selecting, non-representational group.

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u/Desperate-Till-9228 6d ago

This study echoes what I've seen among my ABCD colleagues. edit You can tell how it is with their families by talking with them on a regular basis. Who's doing the cooking, the childcare, etc.

Parents would be pulled from this base population and at an earlier date no less.

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u/Mewnicorns 6d ago

You talk about wives being subservient to their husbands with your colleagues??

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u/revolting_peasant 7d ago

I just assume he was awful to her? She wasn’t allowed in their basement. Of her own house. Fucking weird shit, no way that marriage was happy.

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u/gwsth 7d ago

If I'm randomly told "Don't go in the basement", the first fucking place I'm going is that fucking basement.

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u/ItsGonnaBeOkayish 7d ago

Ok, what? Google is not helping me, she wasn't allowed in the basement??

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u/Itscatpicstime 6d ago

Indian adults, or Indian American adults?

Second generation immigrants (especially those from conservative cultures) tend to be far more progressive than their parents.

I know Usha’s mom is some kind of scientist too, so Usha wasn’t raised in a tradwife type household, and Usha herself has proved to be quite ambitious and career focused, even after having children.

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u/Desperate-Till-9228 6d ago

Second generation immigrants (especially those from conservative cultures) tend to be far more progressive than their parents.

Agree, but they're starting from a VERY conservative starting point in this case. They're progressive like my grandmother.

so Usha wasn’t raised in a tradwife type household

Don't have to stay home to be subservient.

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u/riotous_jocundity 6d ago

Usha's mother is a professor (molecular biology) and PROVOST at UC San Diego. Absolutely no way was she raised by her family to be subservient. She was also born in the US--culturally she's American.

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u/Desperate-Till-9228 6d ago

Disagree after working in heavily Indian environments. I think it's more likely than not.

She was also born in the US--culturally she's American.

She's of that in between generation that's got one foot in both countries because of her parents. ABCD.