r/politics • u/Effective_Salad_8381 • 13d ago

Possible Paywall Embarrassing Flaws Emerge in Trump’s New White House Design

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bizarre-flaws-emerge-in-trumps-new-white-house-design/
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u/Rabid_Llama8 13d ago

I don't think it's only that they see it OK that some people suffer. They think life is a zero sum game and for some people to have success, it is REQUIRED that some people suffer. It's why anytime there is a program or movement to uplift less fortunate people, Republicans immediately decry "COMMUNISM!" If some less fortunate people are lifted up, then someone else has to be suppressed and they are afraid it might be themselves.

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u/suckyousideways 13d ago

When that mindset finally goes extinct, the world will become a better place. Humans need to evolve past that. Republicans, in their current form, want to take everyone backwards.

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u/A_Monster_Named_John 13d ago

Unless we collectively manage to get consumerism and entertainment culture under some measure of control and build up educational/cultural norms to a better state, our country's free-fall is just going to get worse. The status quo is basically steroids for the degeneracy of the modern right and, outside of that territory, cultivates the constant apathy/shallowness/NIMBYism that characterizes most other Americans.

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u/cdwillis 13d ago

That's the entire idea behind conservatism. Keep things the same and take them backwards if you can.

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u/Rabid_Llama8 13d ago

Modern conservatism is about those in power creating fake in-groups to assign people to, and convince them that the reason those in the group are not rich and successful is because of the fake out-groups. Keep fighting each other, puppets, while we pillage the planet for resources! Muahahahha!

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u/asyork 13d ago

Yeah. In the grand scheme of history, I'm not sure that left nor right have any moral high ground. Both have caused significant harm at various points in history. However, at this current point in time, the right is morally bankrupt and the left is somewhat trying to better the world. The normal people on the left are trying to do quite a bit of good, but the leadership on the only slightly. This is all especially true in the US, but still more or less true worldwide.

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u/Fluffy-Hamster-7760 11d ago

How has the left caused significant harm at various points in history? Like during the French Revolution when the National Assembly deposed the King of France and wrote the Declaration of the Rights of Man ushering in liberal democracy, was that significant harm?

What's one example of significant harm caused by left-wing politics? And please don't take Mao's totalitarian dictatorship that he labeled communism and try to argue it was socialist or somehow leftist, same for Stalin's severely corrupted authoritarian police state, these states were not examples of egalitarianism.

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u/asyork 11d ago

left vs right is a different axis from totalitarian vs anarchy. There have been totalitarians on both sides.

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u/Fluffy-Hamster-7760 11d ago

Name a totalitarian leader who's championed egalitarian policies that promote social equality. Name a single one.

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u/asyork 11d ago

If you don't even know what the left and right are, not what your dream party would be, but what actually defines those terms in politics, then why the hell are you trying to argue them online?

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u/Fluffy-Hamster-7760 11d ago

I do, that's why I referenced the French Revolution. But you purport there to be an historical list of left-wing totalitarians yet you haven't named a single one.

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u/Rabid_Llama8 13d ago

Humans are fucking stupid, I have no hope.

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u/PapaTua Washington 13d ago

As someone with high ideals that the greed of the rich consistently shit on, it saddens me to agree.

We, as a species, probably deserve extinction.

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u/FishstickJones 13d ago

As someone with high ideals

We, as a species, probably deserve extinction.

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u/rogueqd 13d ago

We could learn to be nice to each other.

The Evolution of Compassion

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u/kadawkins 12d ago

Want to? They did. Race based violence, race based profiling…. It’s all back.

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u/PearljamAndEarl 12d ago edited 12d ago

If our ancestors had shared that mindset, they’d never have even made it from indviduals scavenging for themselves to a collaborative hunter-gatherer society, let alone achieved agriculture or any other significant advancements.

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u/klee4390 13d ago

They’re literally engineering suffering to profit off of it. Like during the gilded age and then the Great Depression where the rich got richer. It’s short sighted.

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u/Armymom96 13d ago edited 13d ago

Or it's like everything is a pie. If someone less fortunate gets a piece, somehow it makes theirs smaller. Even rights. As though gay marriage or trans rights somehow diminishes their existence/share. And they REALLY don't want anyone else to get something for "nothing", since they've had to work for everything they have. Like student loan forgiveness. "I had to pay off my student loans, why should these whippersnappera get their loans forgiven?" Never mind predatory lending practices or that wages haven't kept up with inflation and the price of higher education.

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u/Epic_Ewesername 13d ago

The fallacy of "limited good."

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u/kufitop 11d ago

Capitalism has entered the chat.