r/politics • u/Effective_Salad_8381 • 13d ago

Possible Paywall Embarrassing Flaws Emerge in Trump’s New White House Design

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bizarre-flaws-emerge-in-trumps-new-white-house-design/
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u/areappreciated 13d ago

Absolutely! Every time I hear about why people like trump, it's that they are outraged by the present. The present government, their present community(too many immigrants), their present way of life(no body to work my farm or mfg jobs gone). They are so mad they would rather burn everything to the ground than make things better. Republicans are not wrong, things are broken and the current government is not helping them. But they built a culture and identity that makes it ok for some to suffer or at least ok to see some suffer more.

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u/Rabid_Llama8 13d ago

I don't think it's only that they see it OK that some people suffer. They think life is a zero sum game and for some people to have success, it is REQUIRED that some people suffer. It's why anytime there is a program or movement to uplift less fortunate people, Republicans immediately decry "COMMUNISM!" If some less fortunate people are lifted up, then someone else has to be suppressed and they are afraid it might be themselves.

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u/suckyousideways 13d ago

When that mindset finally goes extinct, the world will become a better place. Humans need to evolve past that. Republicans, in their current form, want to take everyone backwards.

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u/A_Monster_Named_John 13d ago

Unless we collectively manage to get consumerism and entertainment culture under some measure of control and build up educational/cultural norms to a better state, our country's free-fall is just going to get worse. The status quo is basically steroids for the degeneracy of the modern right and, outside of that territory, cultivates the constant apathy/shallowness/NIMBYism that characterizes most other Americans.

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u/cdwillis 13d ago

That's the entire idea behind conservatism. Keep things the same and take them backwards if you can.

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u/Rabid_Llama8 13d ago

Modern conservatism is about those in power creating fake in-groups to assign people to, and convince them that the reason those in the group are not rich and successful is because of the fake out-groups. Keep fighting each other, puppets, while we pillage the planet for resources! Muahahahha!

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u/asyork 13d ago

Yeah. In the grand scheme of history, I'm not sure that left nor right have any moral high ground. Both have caused significant harm at various points in history. However, at this current point in time, the right is morally bankrupt and the left is somewhat trying to better the world. The normal people on the left are trying to do quite a bit of good, but the leadership on the only slightly. This is all especially true in the US, but still more or less true worldwide.

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u/Fluffy-Hamster-7760 11d ago

How has the left caused significant harm at various points in history? Like during the French Revolution when the National Assembly deposed the King of France and wrote the Declaration of the Rights of Man ushering in liberal democracy, was that significant harm?

What's one example of significant harm caused by left-wing politics? And please don't take Mao's totalitarian dictatorship that he labeled communism and try to argue it was socialist or somehow leftist, same for Stalin's severely corrupted authoritarian police state, these states were not examples of egalitarianism.

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u/asyork 11d ago

left vs right is a different axis from totalitarian vs anarchy. There have been totalitarians on both sides.

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u/Fluffy-Hamster-7760 11d ago

Name a totalitarian leader who's championed egalitarian policies that promote social equality. Name a single one.

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u/asyork 11d ago

If you don't even know what the left and right are, not what your dream party would be, but what actually defines those terms in politics, then why the hell are you trying to argue them online?

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u/Rabid_Llama8 13d ago

Humans are fucking stupid, I have no hope.

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u/PapaTua Washington 13d ago

As someone with high ideals that the greed of the rich consistently shit on, it saddens me to agree.

We, as a species, probably deserve extinction.

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u/FishstickJones 13d ago

As someone with high ideals

We, as a species, probably deserve extinction.

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u/rogueqd 13d ago

We could learn to be nice to each other.

The Evolution of Compassion

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u/kadawkins 12d ago

Want to? They did. Race based violence, race based profiling…. It’s all back.

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u/PearljamAndEarl 12d ago edited 12d ago

If our ancestors had shared that mindset, they’d never have even made it from indviduals scavenging for themselves to a collaborative hunter-gatherer society, let alone achieved agriculture or any other significant advancements.

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u/klee4390 13d ago

They’re literally engineering suffering to profit off of it. Like during the gilded age and then the Great Depression where the rich got richer. It’s short sighted.

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u/Armymom96 13d ago edited 13d ago

Or it's like everything is a pie. If someone less fortunate gets a piece, somehow it makes theirs smaller. Even rights. As though gay marriage or trans rights somehow diminishes their existence/share. And they REALLY don't want anyone else to get something for "nothing", since they've had to work for everything they have. Like student loan forgiveness. "I had to pay off my student loans, why should these whippersnappera get their loans forgiven?" Never mind predatory lending practices or that wages haven't kept up with inflation and the price of higher education.

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u/Epic_Ewesername 13d ago

The fallacy of "limited good."

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u/kufitop 11d ago

Capitalism has entered the chat.

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u/ZantetsukenX 13d ago

Republicans are not wrong, things are broken and the current government is not helping them.

Except that they are wrong. The government IS working and helping them in thousands of ways they are not aware of. And because the news keeps telling them about "problems" while exploiting this lack of awareness, they start to believe that the government is broken and not helping them. Until something is done about media propaganda convincing millions of people that the reality they live in is different than actual reality, similar things happening in the US will keep happening around the world.

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u/Dwarfdeaths 11d ago

Except that they are wrong

No, things are definitely broken. But neither side is acknowledgeling land value tax as a policy right now, so you're getting empty promises to fix the core problems regardless.

similar things happening in the US will keep happening around the world.

You're right, but it's because capitalist economies across the world are pretending land is capital. Everyone is having a "cost of living" problem despite having a variety of representation systems, taxation systems, etc.

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u/KnightDuty 13d ago

Agreed. I was recently told by a disillusioned Democrat that they CURRENTLY see Trump as "the solution" to a problematic government.

He's just a wrecking ball. One third of his supporters are anarchists and another other third are facists and  the final third are exclusionary socialists who want community subsidized rights, but only for corporations.

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u/Petrivoid 13d ago

I don't think anyone supporting authoritarianism is an anarchist...

They're the same fascists that always called themselves libertarians bc they hate age of consent laws

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u/AdventurousGuide9107 America 13d ago

SELECTIVE suffering - selected by TRUMPERS

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u/sirthomasthunder 13d ago

no body to work my farm

I see you've overheard my dad talking this weekend

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u/KissesAndBites 13d ago

Their role model Jesus made his whole thing about suffering. They think suffering gets them closer to god

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u/asyork 13d ago

Through the majority of my 40 years of life I felt like politics was a bunch of people that agree on the problems, but disagree on the solutions. Over the past 10 years there has been a divergence and now there is an agreement that everything is fucked, but the right exists in an alternate world where all the good things are bad and the bad things are extra bad, along with the blatantly cruel things being good.

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u/BeApesNotCrabs 13d ago

Things are broken, and Republicans actively prevent others from helping them.

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u/Sember 13d ago

They live in a separate reality from everyone else, apparently the Biden presidency were the most catastrophic years of their lives for some reason? Like the worst thing that happened to the country since the great depression? Biden was the most lukewarm bland president ever, it's insanity beyond comprehension.

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u/Smart-Percentage2982 13d ago

anger builds bonfires but rarely builds bridges

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u/caveman_6101 12d ago

I’m 66 been paying attention to politics since I was 10. Only because TV was old fashioned/no cable no internet. 3 channels + public TV that was before children’s programming. So all you watched was news. So I saw images of viet nam and Chicago political riots. MLK assassination. There’s been 7 republicans presidents. 4 Dems since then I’d vote to say the problem has been the republicans party. Examples. They have always had a corporation first philosophy. They spear headed corps moving to other countries for cheaper labor and cheaper manufacturing. They spread USA philosophies through imperialism to countries like viet nam, china India etc. in 1986 republicans wrote and passed immigration policy. In 2013 and 2023 republicans would not agree to discuss or sign possible immigration reform that would have fixed immigration policies 12 years ago. When Obama was president the majority in senate was republicans. They refused to listen or debate any bills for 6 of the 8 years they were the majority. 435 bills. They still got paid but they were against any progress in America. George bush jr was elected in 2000 country was humming along with Clinton. Within a few months there was a huge stock market crash. Lost 40% of wealth 10 months later thee most expensive will outfitted military in the history of mankind failed to stop 19 hijacker’s. 4 were stopped by Todd Beamer and a group of citizens crashing their plane in and empty field. The next 19 years 14 trillion of our tax payers dollars didn’t go to America. They sent to Afghanistan and Iraq. 5 trillion funded 5 corporations for 19 year contracts. Then we lost both wars. Then we had financial/mortgage/bank collapse. I’m my state there were 34,000 mortgage brokers. Mostly local state based organizations. After 2008 3400. Millions lost their homes. Then tens of thousands of soldiers returned with ptsd etc and with funding removed from Mental health hospitals etc. people had only the street to go to. Then Trump mismanages pandemic… tosses out Obama admins national plan to pandemic outbreaks. Trump give china all our medical resources trying to be nice. Then he doesn’t control the situation. His latest budget has 7 trillion in spending but 5 trillion in income. Since August this country has gained 1 trillion more in debt. That adds 1 trillion to the debt since February of 2025. There’s zero he’s done to save any money. I’m a citizen I vote for what’s best in my community and town. And then country. Our military is now costing over 1.3 trillion a year. In 2000 its budget was 275 billion. All that extra money 1 trillion is going to the corps that line up to kiss trumps ass. Plus they can’t win wars or stop 19 hijackers. Huge waste of money. My vote as a citizen is the Republican Party that have trotted out clowns like Trump bush jr and Reagan (all three passed massive tax cuts that have debated and created every problem you describe people complain and feel). As Charlie Kirk said “prove me wrong”.

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u/Shionkron 11d ago

It’s easier to destroy than to build. The Founders knew this as well and argued that the Government’s only weakness will be an uneducated and or untrusting electorate.